The Buddhists beleive that our actions will affect our seven re-births and also our seven generations. Though I do not beleive in any religion (of course the Buddhists also do not beleive in any god) or the dogmas of any religion, it seems that what Gautama the Buddha told about 2300 years was correct.
That is what I thinks will be a fair justice of God.
Muslims looted raped and conquered India, Spain and other territories for 1200 years. Now God is doing justice. Justice says Muslims will be weak and slaves for at least 2400 years. Why 2400 why not 1200. Because Muslims were the aggressors, they started evil, so they will have to pay back double.
So for next two and a half thousand years all over the world Muslim states will be failed weak states and US/China/India/Israel shall loot and dominate them on free will.
PLEASE DONT ABUSE ME BACK. LET ME KNOW WHY YOU DONT AGREE WITH THIS JUSTICE. IF GOD WILL DO THIS JUSTICE WHY WILL YOU NOT AGREE WITH IT.
RE:ISLAM and JUSTICE
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
Cat Stevens is known to openly encourage terrorism by justifying the acts of terrorists and calling AlQaeda operatives are martyrs publically in radio and rallies. Cat stevens is a traitor who curses his own country. USA is fully justified to throw him out to the desert if he wants to live there.
RE:RE:ISLAM and JUSTICE
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 02:42 PM Permalink
USA was attacked unprovoked in 911. 5000 innocent intelligent people were killed. Not a single US soldier was in any Muslim country then. So you stop blaming USA and start acknowledging the basic violent nature of Islam.
RE:ISLAM and JUSTICE
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 02:46 PM Permalink
I dont need news channels for Islam. I am an Indian. I have seen attrocities of Islam for 1200 years. Yes you heard it right 1200 years or 1.2 centuries. I know fully well about the association of Islam and voilence.
correct your statement dear.There is no cast system in Islam.It may be among people practising islam but affected by local culture.Undersatnd the difference!!!!!
RE:@JGN,There are more than 12 castes in Islam in AP itself apart from two broad division called ''Ajlaf'' and ''Ashraf''. Again put serach words ''Caste system in Islam'' are see the result.
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 01:41 PM Permalink
Shia/Sunni/Wahabi/Salafi/Ahmediya/Sufi/deobandi etc etc etc I dont even know much about all this. What is funny is all these people blow themselves up. Funny and gross at the same time.
RE:@JGN,There are more than 12 castes in Islam in AP itself apart from two broad division called ''Ajlaf'' and ''Ashraf''. Again put serach words ''Caste system in Islam'' are see the result.
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 02:44 PM Permalink
The way to end radicals is to end all your enemies period. That is the path US may ultimately take after a few more terror attacks if htey were to happen in the US.
RE:@JGN,There are more than 12 castes in Islam in AP itself apart from two broad division called ''Ajlaf'' and ''Ashraf''. Again put serach words ''Caste system in Islam'' are see the result.
by JGN on Jul 23, 2008 05:43 PM Permalink
This is what is called "BS".......when something is wrong with the followers of other religions you will say that it is due to the fault of religion but when there are malpractices in your religion you will justify the same by saying "It may be among people practising islam but affected by local culture"!!! Pl stop- this bluffing.
"doesnt hinduism says, those who dont worship hindu gods will go to narak?"
NO. NO. NO. Hinduism does NOT say that. Hinduism says that there are many ways to the Creator, find a way that can give you Moksha.
Understand Golden, the hollowness of Islam. A unbeliever, howsoever kind and loving person, will go to hell. Mother Teresa is in hell, Gandhi is in hell, according to Islam. Understand Golden, that Islam says that Allah is like a Goonda who will become angry if you do not worship him.
Hinduism says that GOOD DEEDS will determine if you go to heaven or hell. GOD IS TOO GREAT, GOD DOES NOT DESIRE OR CRAVE FOR WORSHIP. God only cares if you were a peaceful and good human, like Mother Teresa or Mahatma Gandhi.
Golden Islam is too inferior conceptually. I am sorry but that is the truth, I dont want to insult any religion. GOD DOES NOT NEED SLAVES. God will only care about your good actions, your kindess, your helping poor, your working hard. GOD WILL NOT CARE IF YOU BENT AND BOWED. GOD IS TOO GREAT TO DEMAND WORSHIP.
Cruel human rulers like George Bush demand worship and submission from weaker humans. PLEASE DONT INSULT GOD by saying that God is like cruel human villians.
RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by shakil ahmed ansari on Jul 23, 2008 01:08 PM Permalink
what is hinduism its is only ism islam is not ism hinduism is mytholgy and nothing else so dont live in fools paradise and wake up
RE:RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by JGN on Jul 23, 2008 01:10 PM Permalink
Islam is more of a political ideology than a religion. Islam is Arab imperialism. The Arabs do not consider the muslims from the Indian sub-continent as equal to them but the Indian muslims delue themselves in the name of some imaginary "Ummah"!
RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by shakil ansari on Jul 23, 2008 01:17 PM Permalink
jgn islam is islam it is not related with any imperealism that is why i say islam is not ism fit this thing in ur mind
RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by JGN on Jul 23, 2008 01:25 PM Permalink
shakil ansari, I quote Mr. Irfan Hussein from The Dawn (Pak daily established by none other than Mr. M.A. jiHHAN):
Many Westerners ask, with considerable justification, why Muslims should enjoy endless religious freedom in their countries when Christians (and other non-Muslims) are not accorded reciprocal liberty in Islamic states. In Saudi Arabia, for instance, it is a crime to even own or sell a copy of the Bible. Obviously, there is no question of any faith building any house of worship other than a mosque.
In Pakistan, no new churches or temples have been permitted, and even when a church was approved in Islamabad, local mullahs made construction impossible. Unquote
RE:RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 01:43 PM Permalink
this is your desire which talks like that and your hatred to force people think like that. but rest assured, nothing such thing will happen, islam will emerge as winner and you will be accepted as slave of islam.
RE:RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 01:29 PM Permalink
Dude as Winston Churchill famously said:
"THEIR FAILURE LIES IN THEIR INTOLERANCE".
Most Islamic states are failed. Rest few will fail in a few years when oil runs out making Islam a 100% fail religion with all Islamic states lying in Gutter.
RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by JGN on Jul 23, 2008 01:09 PM Permalink
As per the scheme of things of the "most merciful creator" about 83% of the world's population are "rightful owners of hell fire"!!!!! Allah is indeed most merciful.
RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 01:20 PM Permalink
Shakeel Mian I am talking about logic here. This "ism" and "anity" thingies wont work. If you can clarify why islam insults Allah to be like Hindi film villian Gabbar Singh then do so most welcome.
RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by shakil ansari on Jul 23, 2008 01:24 PM Permalink
tahn apply that logic in finding loopholes in ur religion which considers cow as sacret but person of loww born as untouchable
RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 01:27 PM Permalink
Castiesm is banned from India, it is illegal, outlawed. I have a very simple question, why does Allah demand worship like goondas demand hafta. Why does Allah threaten with hellfire like a Goonda?
Islam is so devoid of real spirituality that leave aside the noble concepts of Karma and good deeds in this world, even in the afterlife, the spritual concet of heaven in Islam is filled with lust, sin and sex.
RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by shakil ansari on Jul 23, 2008 01:36 PM Permalink
isnt sex finds prime place in hinduism should i open it you will be embrased
RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 01:44 PM Permalink
Shakeel sex is a natural part of life. In this life sex, lust and sin is a truth and reality beyond denial. Hinduism acknowledges that. BUT YOU WILL LEAVE YOUR BODY BACK AFTER DEATH. Spirituality is pure and devoid of any earthly sinful feeling, one with god, pure and ethereal.
Unfortunately Islamic concept is so ugly that it leaves the 4:1 ratio of earth behind and makes it 72:1. Disgusting.
RE:RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by JGN on Jul 23, 2008 01:28 PM Permalink
shakil ansari, put search words "animal worship" in any internet serach engine and read the article to know how the system of worship originated. Hinduism is not a religion in its narrow sense. It is a conglomeration of various beliefs and even non-belief (atheism).
And of course caste system exists in Islam and Christianity. There are more than 12 castes in Islam in AP itself apart from two broad division called "Ajlaf" and "Ashraf". Again put serach words "Caste system in Islam" are see the result.
RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 01:41 PM Permalink
you are having some wrong ideas. islam much more excellent than you can ever think. its excellence has been well approved and accepted by the entire world. only some selfish people who dont want to give islam this credits are trying to demonise islam.
first go and read your own scriptures and mythology. where does these ASURAS come from. they dont believe in your gods so they are bad. there may be so many ways according to hinduism as they dont believe in truth. truth has only one way. even if you say this in so many times, it will give you only one idea, the FACT...
if you will go to moksha no matter what then what is this naraka for? any one who says wrong for hindu dharma is ADHARMI. worship any one, any thing you are hindus. ifyou dont you are ADHARMI..
adharmi will go to hell fire. well said in hindism....
gods even fight each other. some sects dont believe in god and think karma will take you to heaven or hell. what karma, who will decide karma...giving sacrifices even human sacrifices is recommended in hindism. read your scripture. and this is a veyr pious deed. what good you are talking man.
yes, God says it doesnt make any difference to God ifyou bow or not. but if you bow it is good for you. if you dont work, your boss will not die but you will be fired.
RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by vinay o dassi on Jul 23, 2008 05:32 PM Permalink
Asuras also used to pray Lord Shiva fo ryour information .Shiva in himself is a manifestation of that "HIM" which you shameless converts will never understand
RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 01:41 PM Permalink
concept of islam is not just worshiping a particular idol, rather it gives an entire way of life. and that's the problem with selfish people. as they are enjoying others riches by looting them. they will be asked not to do this so islam is bad.
you have your own ideas, god doesnt need slaves. yes god doesnt need. then which god do you speak of. rama, who need monkeys help. or any other one...
in fact you follow your own religion, not hinduism. what ever you think and do, you think is right and correct. in fact you understand yourself as God. you make your own rules. a very weak and oridinary people like you thought like that and today they have legalised the homosexuality. if you leave the path of God and start thinking in the pervert way like you are doing rightnow. there is very much chances for you getting astray.
RE:RE:GOLDEN : THINK: USE YOUR BRAIN
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 01:50 PM Permalink
Golden you have no answers!!! I am disappointed. I am an independent thinker who questions every religion including Hinduism. Islam fails, you fail!
You say my boss will kick me out and fire me. My boss is an imperfect human!!! GOD IS PERFECT, OMNIPRESENT/OMNIPOTENT. GOD DOES NOT HAVE IMPERFECT HUMAN EMOTIONS LIKE WRATH/ANGER/PRIDE/LUST/CRAVE. GOD DOES NOT CARE IF YOU BEND AND BOW.
GOlden again. DONT WORRY ABOUT WORSHIPPING A MONKEY. Mother Teresa worshipped a cross. Gandhi worshipped a monkey. THEY ARE MUCH BETTER HUMAN BIENGS THAN ANY MUSLIM BORN IN 1300 years ISLAMIC HISTORY.
GOLDEN UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY. YOUR ACTIONS ARE IMPORTANT. Love all humans(muslims or kafirs), help poor, work hard to gain knowledge, enlighten humanity.
Take the Godly path Golden. Bending and Bowing is easy. Living like Gandhi is difficult. Being Mother Teresa is difficult. Being Einstien is difficult. Understand Golden, why Islam is so backwards. Try to think.
We have the freedom to beleive in any god or not to beleive also. If your religion is good for you, practice that but don't try to ridicule our native culture.
All other societies have progressed to Secular Democratic countries but only Muslims want their own country wherever they are in majority. Even the miniscule community of Muslims in UK are demanding that UK should be declared an Islamic Country!!
So long as hindus are in majority in India, our country will remain a secular democratic republic and there is no way the muslims can become majoirty in our country for another 100 years alteast. So pl stop spitting venom on others.
RE:@ Golden and other muslim friends
by ransaran on Jul 23, 2008 01:11 PM Permalink
JGN YOUR STATEMENT THAT MUSLIMS ARE DEMANDING THAT BRITAIN SHOULD BE DECLAARED A MUSLIM COUNTRY IS TOTALYY REDICULIOUS AND MISLEADING
RE:@ Golden and other muslim friends
by JGN on Jul 23, 2008 01:15 PM Permalink
ransaran, pl read what is written by Mr. Irfan Husain in Dawn (a Pak news paper):
"In Pakistan, no new churches or temples have been permitted, and even when a church was approved in Islamabad, local mullahs made construction impossible.
Indeed, the treatment of minorities in Pakistan is a blot on our claim to civilisation.
Given these double-standards, it is understandable that Westerners should be increasingly resistant to encroaching Muslim practices in their countries.
And frankly, Muslims do not make things easier: groups like Al Muhajiroon in Britain openly demand that the country should be turned into an Islamic state.
The involvement of scores of young Muslims in terror plots does little to further the cause of religious harmony.
And of course, this kind of mindless violence gives racists an excuse to dramatise and exaggerate the threat it actually poses.
RE:@ Golden and other muslim friends
by shakil ansari on Jul 23, 2008 01:27 PM Permalink
at least westerners go by logic and by the same logic they are converting to islam you are also invited to embrace islam
RE:@ Golden and other muslim friends
by JGN on Jul 23, 2008 05:36 PM Permalink
Ok. Let them convert and blow themselves "in the cause of Allah" for an assured entry into the Paradise stocked with abundant supply of "wine, women, water, fruits, etc" Who cares?
RE:@ Golden and other muslim friends
by JGN on Jul 23, 2008 05:56 PM Permalink
ransaran just vanished after accusing me. it seems that he cannot digest the truth!!!
You wrote: "he best thing, is live and let live. dont suppress any one, dont hate any one, "
Golden is that what Muslims did to innocent peaceful Hindus? Why were Hindus attacked in India by Muslims? Why? Dont you think God will ask this question?
RE:GOLDEN
by indian on Jul 23, 2008 01:06 PM Permalink
hey you muslims are terrorists & that is a known fact. that's why u r so dirty. you believe that if you remain dirty you will get a good life in next birth.
Bottom lin eis kill/roast every muslim so that this world will be a peaceful place.
all terrorists are muslims & they should be in the list of endangered species in few years.
RE:GOLDEN
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 12:45 PM Permalink
I am talking about Muslim aggressors of the 10th century, in case you missed the point. Hindus never attacked anyone.
RE:GOLDEN
by Pradip Parekh on Jul 23, 2008 01:06 PM Permalink
hindus usually can not tell who is attacking them. vajpayee attacked the hindus when he opened india's borders to terrorists from pakistan who feel quite free to ride down into india in luxury of lahore dillie bus line. and you voted for vajpayee, right?
RE:obama
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 12:15 PM Permalink
Just keep a count on how many muslims Obama will kill. He will set a new record on how many muzzies he kills, even more than Mohammad.
RE:obama
by ransaran on Jul 23, 2008 12:59 PM Permalink
keep dreaming as you people are dreaming for generations but i tell u that it will remain a dream
RE:obama
by JGN on Jul 23, 2008 01:06 PM Permalink
ransaran, forget about our dreams. Muhammed had dreamt of converting the whole world into an Islamic Caliphate more than 1400 years back but that is still a distant dream!
RE:obama
by shakil ansari on Jul 23, 2008 01:21 PM Permalink
he PBUH of freeing humanity from the clutches of inequailityof rase,caste.creed and in which he was succesfull but what about you people who still support a old and outdated religion which consider cow as sacred but a person of low born as untouchable do u have any answer to dropdi syndrome prewailing in ur esteemed religion,devdasi system
I am saying let's put few nuclear bombs on Pakistan and everybody's problem solved. Afghanistan happy, India happy, all western countries happy. All happy. This is a country which instead of solving their own problem, creates problem for all other countries.
RE:RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 12:44 PM Permalink
good messages are only for the people with understanding. those who dont understand, cant be helped.
they will think i shall drop a nuke in my neighbour abdullah's house and my house 20 yards away will remain safe and sound.
i think they want to make a tiny bomb of their own brain size.
RE:Porkistan
by Nautanki on Jul 23, 2008 11:23 AM Permalink
Look at the size of Pak. It is nothing compared to India. Yes, they can make nuisance. But they are no match to India. If India wants, really wants, it can annihilate Pak. But India cares for the people in Pak, unlike these terrorist Pakis.
RE:RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
it is only your hatred which is asking you to make such statements. what does the size matter man. what is the size of iran, not even eual to two states of india. and this small iran has become a big danda in USAss...
they are just dying to demolish the nuke facility of iran and know very well that this is not the earlier cases like afghanistan and iraq. there is no northern alliance and kurds here. even the opposition is with govt. on the issue of nuke technology.
india can never want to annihilate pakistan, reason is simple, india can never do it...it is only your hateful thinking and desire which is actually killing you and making you to think like that.
RE:Porkistan
by JGN on Jul 23, 2008 06:34 PM Permalink
It is not that "india can never do it..." but "India will never do it" because ours is a civilized country. Our country was not formed out of hatred. It has a civilization going back to nearly 5000 years when most of the other continents were still in the Stone-age.
Mass destruction should be avoided at any cost, anywhere in the world. That will not solve any problem.
RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 11:04 AM Permalink
hatred will not solve any problem. it will kill you one day. as far as bomb is concerned, pakistan has got bomb much before india got technology. and now even pakistan has got technology. only those who have got brains in their knees talk about bombing any nuke state.
yes india is full of such idiots. let them die of their own hatred. we should not bother them.
RE:Porkistan
by Vinayak on Jul 23, 2008 11:21 AM Permalink
It is clear you are a PAKI when u wrote 'pakistan has got bomb much before india got technology'. The whole world knows Porkistan got the technology from China clandestinely. Please know and accept facts. Porkistan can never match India in development.
RE:RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 12:40 PM Permalink
if you have any honesty in your heart then accept the change, otherwise go spread your hatred. even if we understand that islam is the only true way of life, we dont hate the followers of other faith, yes, we only try to reveal the truth and those who are enjoying the innocence ignorant people and making their living out of this, do feel bad and make a lot of hue and cry.
RE:Porkistan
by ram verma on Jul 23, 2008 01:05 PM Permalink
wat's best of life???? suppress women , suppress free thinking, suppress enterprize,let rich muslim enjoy good things and preach poor chaps to fight for so called gr8 cause. Wah, what a good way of living...
RE:RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 01:22 PM Permalink
women is never suppressed inislam. in fact islam makes them free and gives them right to choose or refuse. first time when islam mentioned this, people did not approve this, but islam forced this rule of humanity on the people like you.
islam gives much more rights to women than any other religion or system. you can verify yourself, if you have brain. simply becoming nude in public is not the real freedom. it is just to make some lecherous people like you to happy. no our ladies are not ready for this.
they are not forced to do hijab, they do it by wish and will. for long enemies of islam tried to misguide women of islam but since they could not succeed, they are now forcing them to become nude like their own ladies. recenly silmi was forced to remove her veil if she wants citizenship of france and she told clearly that she does hijab because she wants it. and there is no force on her.
our women do understand that you like lechers actually dont want to respect women, want to enjoy women naked body. so make your women naked, leave our women aside. they are pious and chaste not like yours.
tomorrow you will say, our women to should worship siva's LD... oh comon man. please leve us alone. go and do what ever you want with your women.
RE:RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 12:38 PM Permalink
every body has got the right to acquire the nuke technology. if any one can get, then every one has got the right at least to get it.
after iraq attack it was mentioned in some article clearly, that there was no proof of WMD but some power full rouge states use false allegations and attack some weak states. in future only WMD is going to become the assurance of your survival in this world. so every body has got right to acquire it.
recently india had a war like situation with pakistan in kargil, but every body retracted because they know both are nuke state. had there been any nuke in iraq, rowdy USA soldiers could have never dared to go there.
some rouge estates like USA always try to bully weak countries and make sure they remain weak by making them sign so many illegal agreements but that cant happen for long.
very soon so many countries will acquired nuke and US goondagardi will come to end. a little iran has become a big danda for rowdy usa. what will happen if we get some more estates like iran. even sanction will not do any good for iran. they have learned to survive in sanctions.
the best thing, is live and let live. dont suppress any one, dont hate any one, let every body has equal rights socially. financially some may have higher buying capacity, but just because some people do have higher buying capacity it doesnt mean that they will be given preferences in bhagwan darshan. just go to any mosque and tirupaty temple you will find the difference yourself.
RE:Porkistan
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
Dude I am doing my PhD from Stanford. You have no idea what USA is. Here research is going on to make US territory nuke free, that is "atom-splitting" will no longer be possible in US airspace in a few decades.
Do you know the power of brains of United States of America. Do you know the chosen people of God "Jews" are doing research here? Do you konw how much power God gives these jew scientists?
RE:RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 01:28 PM Permalink
your boot licking mentality will not say anyting else. i can understand that....
you are doing PH.D. so dont think you are the only one who is doing this. in fact me too is doing Ph.D. and my subject will give you a sweat in your spine. so please leave it aside.
your slave mentality tells clearly why you support west and us. you want money and even you can dump your own country and go there and boast..
Dude I am doing my PhD from Stanford.
what is so special if you are doing it...go and try...we shall also try. it is the strategy of dirty us and west to progress and stop others from progressing. they know where is the potential so they try to stop muslims hard as they dont only talk about worshipping true God but also talk about the system...a change in system where every body will have equal rights and this hurts west and us interests. so they try hard to demonise islam and muslim world.
these jews are cursed. they dont even have a house of their own, how long you can live in a snatched house. very soon they will be thrown away from palestine. they are thankless people. when hitler killed them, muslims gave them shelter and they snatched their own house. now no body will even give them any place in their country.
RE:RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 12:31 PM Permalink
people filled with ignorance and hatred dont see, they just walk blindly and dont search for truth, they just want something which approve what they are believing in. you are one of those morons...
in this forum, speak the truth and you are paki if truth goes against india and hindu culture. if you have a little brain and if you had sense before this communal wave created by RSS and BJP then you will know that even during the time of Ziaul Haque pakistan has got the bomb. no matter from where. when the bomb is dropped it will see that i am from china or russia, it will kill simply.
recently india did the blast and got technology but pakistan had bomb already and when did pakistan acquired technology no body even could guess it. no body knew pak has the technology and when india did the explosion, just 7 days after that pakistan did the same with two more in number. do you think it was only 7 days preparation? only some idiots will believe that and his hatred will force him to continue live in fools paradise.
if i want something, i can buy or develop. who are you or any body else to force me to go through some specified way. did india start from chain reaction. who postulated, it? some indian do you think? if not then can we say india too clandestinely acquired the technology? dont talk like morons. every body starts from where the world is. pak got because china gave.
israel got because usa gave and no body in the entire world bother with that.
RE:Porkistan
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 12:38 PM Permalink
Pakistan cannot even create a needle in its factories. Pakistan is dependent on US aid of 10 billion to feed its people. In Pakistan even if you have some money you cannot purchase food as market is short of wheat and rice. FACT1: ONE Mukesh Ambani can purchase every company listed in Pakistan Stock exchange with 13% of his wealth.
FACT2: Tatas and Ambanis together earn more yearly than GDP of Pakistan.
WHY is Pakistan so incompetent. Why cant it compete with Hindu India? Why is not giving Pakistan any brains to develop. Devleoping a small country is much easier than developing a huge poor nation as India was 60 years ago.
RE:RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 01:16 PM Permalink
islam gives the real strength in every thing. islam asks muslims to grow and prosper. US is afraid of pakistan and know very well where is the potential. so they dont bother about india. they just find some corrupt man like mush and try to control pakistan but the real pakistani muslims is very much honest and having high potential and USA is afraid of them.
what pakistan can do, is actually much beyond your thinking. you can simply sleep and dream what you desire. a very hateful and devilish desire. and that makes you dream totally absurd thinking....
pakistan industry is much more advanced than you can ever think. you dont know anything actualy. you know only what RSS and media told you to believe in. you are like a puppet who dont have any of their own brain. they only see what they are made to see.
you talked about mukesh, is he the same mukesh who once stole so much money from BSNL by changing STD calls to locals? he is your hero..good. a thief will chose only his own as hero.. this mukesh was convicted and found guilty and was made to pay to BSNL by court. yes, this thief is really good but fit for india only.
leave about GDP and control you inflation right now. you are living in fools paradise....
india is not a hindu india first of all. hindu india will believe that moon is god and snake is god and sun is running on its chariot. a totally idiotic idea. thanks got we muslims are living in india to correct these ignorants.
RE:Porkistan
by pakmahaan on Jul 23, 2008 11:19 AM Permalink
Hatred is the essence of Islam. Pakistan has a stolen nuclear bomb. After Indian nuke deal our nuke technology will be so superior that pak will not even come to know how they evaporated with their stolen begged bomb within a few seconds.
RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 12:23 PM Permalink
islam preches and practices peace and justice. it never asks to hate any one. not even to its enemies. it is the teachings of RSS and BJP who justify their teachings by blaming it on islam.
in fact no religion asks to hate any one but if you read your own mythology, you will understand, how devi and devta hate each other and even indulge in fighting. siva fighting vishnu and then siva cutting head of brahma because he was running after his own daughter by being infatuated with sex...sometimes i wonder if this incest has been taught by hinduism to west or what...
if you are truthful, just tell me one thing...
WHICH VERSE OF QURAN OR HADITH YOU FIND PREACHES HATRED...IF YOU CANT FIND ONE THEN DONT CREATE CONFUSION WITH YOUR RSS MENTALITY.
RE:RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 01:09 PM Permalink
first of all you have given wrong reference. you are a moron dont know how to copy paste too...
SURA 2:2156 "“Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you"
though reference is wrong, i still believe that verse is correct. what is wrong in this. when indian army was made, doyou think soldiers were given message of peace that they should go and love and kiss their enemies? at least islam asks to not to fight to those who want peace and even provide shelter to them. which army will say like today. NON...go and search a single army major who says, provide shelter to those who want peace, at the most he will say let him go.
when war is declared we must fight, every body does this. there is nothing wrong in this. i dont find any hatred preaching in this...
any way thanks for all your reference. i got a chance to clarify the doubts in the mind of people with understanding. those who dont understand, are allowed to continue their hatred, it will finally kill them one day.
RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 12:54 PM Permalink
yes. you are right, you have taken the verses out of context and quoting them here.
5:51: yes, Quran says, this to the muslims during war time when there is war there must not be any friendship with Jews and Christians. who will do friendship when there is war, with ones enemy? will go to pakistan when there is a war between india and pakistan? even quran mentions further in the same verse that they are friends of each other. are they actually? jews killed Jesus as per christian's claim and one christian group is still engaged with jews in fighting in Jerusalem. but during war they became frnd so that they can crush the muslims. so muslims must not take any frndship with them. or else what will happen? think yourself if you have brain.
once there was a riot in india and there was one man called Abdullah. he was very nice and kind to every one. even hindus liked him too much. but during riot he was suggested by musilms to leave the locality as it was hindu majority locality. but he denied saying he is equally friend to hindus and muslims. then hindu mob came slaughter him. no body recognized him as a friend at that time.
Allah is guiding to not to get hurt. if you still want to take frndship then go ahead. who wants but Allah knows during war they will never support muslims so muslims must abstain from making frndship with them.
still there is no message of hate. only not to make frndship.
RE:RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 01:04 PM Permalink
you are such a devil minded, even you quoted this verse half, so that your devilish desire will be fulfilled. here is the full...:
YUSUFALI: But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
you learned from arun shauri perhaps how to lie and fool ignorant people. Allah is saying not to fight during the month of Ramadhan. just let me know which month do you abstain from fights. was there any gap when world war broke? people killed people for years without any gap. Allahs asks to give a gap even if you are in war, just to remind that you must not forget the rules of war. and the rules of war was made by islam 1400 year before even today they are so much worth following but only muslims do follow them, others still are behaving like beasts. muslims even war dont forget their humanity. you can just see what Allah says to us to do those who dont want to fight.
muslims fight only for peace and that's why there has always been a decisive war in islam. there is not war of hatred like most of the today's so called humanity protectors do.
show me a single war fought due to hatred by muslims. muslims fight only to end the injustice and even today, they fight for the same cause.
RE:RE:Porkistan
by Golden on Jul 23, 2008 12:57 PM Permalink
what is wrong with this and where is hatred here i dont understand:
Sura3 3:64: “Verily Allah has cursed the Unbelievers and has prepared for them a Blazing Fire to dwell in forever."
doesnt hinduism says, those who dont worship hindu gods will go to narak? why? there are two type of people called devatas and danavas. (sur and asur). asurs eat meat and sur dont eat. i dont know millions of hindus who eat meat are sur or asurs.
there is concept of heaven and hell in every religion and those who dont believe in the religion and do the righteous act will go to hell fire is the concept in every religion. what is wrong in this...
only some cunning person like you will hide the truth and take the verses out of context and misguide people.
RE:Porkistan
by Bihari on Jul 23, 2008 01:29 PM Permalink
Golden, Please don't argue with pakmahaan type shivlingam & parvatichootam.They are stone age people.
