Tamilnadu has extensively mis used underground water, polluted major water sources like Koovam, do not do rain water harvesting and leave out lots of water to the sea (which could be saved in mettur dam) during the rainy season. Instead of expecting from karnataka to always save water for you, why dont you folks do something about it? We do not expect them to starve, at the same time it is not right to feed someone who are plain lazy.
RE:Let Tamilnadu save water
by Venkata Subramani on Feb 05, 2007 09:13 PM Permalink
Nice suggestion..But my dear friend..All the houses in TN are having this rain water harvesting..Further, TN is the only state in this country to have done that..
Koovam is not a river of good water..It is sewage water..Therefore the people in TN are not wasting the water...Please Understand the reality
RE:RE:Let Tamilnadu save water
by deepak jg on Feb 06, 2007 06:57 PM Permalink
Dear friend we are not against you but pls understand that why are you people wasting cauvery water, pls avoid wasteing water because in future you and we can't get even 10 tmc water from river, see the history of godhawari river
RE:RE:Let Tamilnadu save water
by on Feb 05, 2007 09:37 PM Permalink
Just a correction. Only houses in chennai are doing rain water harvesting. Saving water in houses is a very small deal, the big deal comes from when you can store water in lakes, tanks etc, diverting rain water to properly flow into the tanks..
Also, Koovam turns into sewage only after it comes near Chennai, it is a pure water source at the place where it originates (200kms from Chennai) Please remember that living started in Chennai (or chennarayapattinam)on the banks of this river (tributary).
Dont have these anti-national feeling of cutting water to any states. We are all Indian and we should share water alike. Sharing water does not 50-50 but based on population needs, population size and industrial needs (both farming and otherwise).
Karnataka cable operator blacking out Tamil channels is again very anti-national, not just anti-Tamil. Are you working for Pakistani operatives by doing this. We, in North India hope one day that our Southern brethrens will think of everyone, not just their state.
RE:To my Southern Brethren
by Venkata Subramani on Feb 05, 2007 09:02 PM Permalink
The problem is, everyone even those who are educated, think only of their own circle and needs..They never think of the reality..if some decision is going against them, they will talk of bias, pressure and partiality..Why should the tribunal members to be against Karnataka..Karnataka too have good number of MPs..They can also use the pressure tactics..But in reality, judgements cannot be modified just like that..For this we dont have to wait for 17 long years..I hope our educated brotherens of Karnataka realises this..Further one of the respondents has given the detail of the verdict..If you read that, you will realise there is no bias...
Further, Since someone is dependent on us, we should treat them equally with megananimity..
As regard to block out of Tamil Channels in Karnataka, we can think the other way..If these channels were shown and in that, if we see the joy of tamilians, how it will be taken in Karnataka..this will add more fuel to the fire..So the govt or whoever thought of blocking the tamil channels had taken a good decision...
Live all and love all.. We are Indians, no muslims, no hindus, no kannadigas, no tamils, no hindis, ONLY INDIANS AND INDIANS ONLY
RE:RE:To my Southern Brethren
by Vishwanathan Nagarajan on Feb 05, 2007 09:59 PM Permalink
if only every one thinks like you... like a true citizen of india...
we are all indians first... we should remember that...
RE:To my Southern Brethren
by S Kumar on Feb 06, 2007 12:02 AM Permalink
Should Kannadigas behave this way, they are unfit to be a part of the India culture and Indianness.
RE:To my Southern Brethren
by krishna murthy on Feb 05, 2007 08:30 PM Permalink
with out understanding depth and reality creamy words will not heal dont talk senseless relating to pakistan and cauvery .. u north dont find anythink apart from pakistan ... any issue u will check out pakistan rathern knowing the reality ........ unity only & only treated in equal par not when biased
RE:To my Southern Brethren
by on Feb 05, 2007 10:56 PM Permalink
Rightly said !!! kannadigas feel that by blocking Tamil channels and bashing Tamiks, they are doing a favor to kannada...And then talk about Indians. Shame on them.
Jai Karnataka and Jai Cauvery, Jai Deve Gowda and Jai Kannadigas..
What is this..Are we seeing ourselves as Indians or Kannadigas, Tamilians etc..Will the Kannadigas will be happy if the verdict is not to release a single drop of cauvery to Tamilnadu and let all the millions of People die out of starvation..I have known that kannadigas are very soft and kind..Those who reply must be agents of foreign country who are trying to split us by means and crooks
RE:I doubt some of the replies are from Agents of foreign country
by on Feb 05, 2007 10:54 PM Permalink
They why kannadigas bash women and children if they happen to be Tamilians. Is that the nature of soft kind ? What a stupid you kannadigas are....Just try to Indian first...and they talk about being a kannadiga..Bashing the people of neighbouring states is not the soft nature of an Indian.Mind that first.
RE:Opposite Verdict
by on Feb 05, 2007 11:00 PM Permalink
Atleast Tamilians will not be bashing kannadigas..for sure., because, they know that, it is a cowardly act to bash innocent people, especially women and children.
RE:RE:Opposite Verdict
by S Kumar on Feb 05, 2007 11:25 PM Permalink
All the Kannadigas who have settled in Tamil nadu, do not want to return to Karnataka at any cost. What does this say? It is for the Kannadigas to understand the hospitality of Tamils first before behaving in this manner.
RE:Opposite Verdict
by venkatramanan on Feb 05, 2007 07:45 PM Permalink
Whether TN says its the Tribunal verdict or not it can't be much helped as all four states had supported the idea of tribunal. It is not an egoistic fight. It is something to do with the basic need of people and not a state's victory. Karnataka cable operator blacking out Tamil channels owing to this decision just shows more cowardliness from their end as the common man should never be a target of a mass protest. If the karnataka goverment feels it needs more it can reapply which it has done. There is no winning or losing as it is one country.
RE:RE:Opposite Verdict
by krishna murthy on Feb 05, 2007 08:36 PM Permalink
it an't over till it is... fight till the end dont talk about cowardness its not kannadigas who will be suffering u have u own tamilians also over here every one has right to protest some black out some agitate some fight in the street... those are heroes who fight for the cause........
RE:RE:RE:Opposite Verdict
by S Kumar on Feb 05, 2007 11:22 PM Permalink
Kannadigas do not think or lack sense. They are primitive and hence it is unnecessary blaming them :)
RE:RE:RE:Opposite Verdict
by ramanujam narayan on Feb 05, 2007 09:57 PM Permalink
If Tamil Nadu black out your electricity power what you will do? You are the receiver of Power from Tamil Nadu do not forget that. It is all in sharing what you have, you get the maximum benefit and not in selfish possession of what you have.
RE:Opposite Verdict
by on Feb 05, 2007 10:59 PM Permalink
why are twisting the tale ? Who knows how the TN would have reacted ? Come on..we are not watching a thriller movie here.. The verdict is out and let the kannadigas follow the verdict, if they are true indians.
I don't believe in this verdict, If Karnataka gets good rainfall through out a year, It can release not only 419 tmc but more than 500 tmc. If there is no rain, from where it can release. So it all depends upon the God's willingness. That will be the final verdict.
RE:Karunanidhi Welcomes report
by chaitanya kumar on Feb 05, 2007 07:33 PM Permalink
Well said. People shouldn't use this venue as an opportunity to vent their frustration at other Indians. If there is an injustice(yes, there is), people from Karnataka must come together and raise the issue in supreme court again. But don't use unnnecessary bravado and abuse others in this forum. Let's raise above caste and language barriers.
RE:cauvery
by S Kumar on Feb 05, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
This clearly depicts the immature and lack of sagacity among certain so called Indians. It is better to educate that being in India, every one is entitled to enjoy the resource of the nation equally and not spread hatred and discrimination. Should India require persons of this type?
RE:RE:cauvery
by basavaraj tatawati on Feb 05, 2007 07:04 PM Permalink
Agree with you that every one is entitled to enjoy the resource of thenation equally. But this veredict is biased in favour of Tamil Naadu under the pressure of Politicians and hence should be redrawn considering the Karnatka's requirement
RE:RE:RE:cauvery
by S Kumar on Feb 05, 2007 07:28 PM Permalink
This is not true. It may be noticed that Tamil nadu had received a greater share of water during the treaty dateing back to decades. But of late due to the erratic and fanatic attitude of Karnataka, this has been consideratly reduced. Giving the surplus water is no justification. Also it may be noted that most of the percentage of water mentioned in the present decree comes from the catchment area in Tamilnadu. Karnataka has no need to regret for the same. The number 400 looks big, but Karnataka would only need to release the surplus water to reach this figure. So who is the biggest loser? Who has really been benefitted? Who has really been shown consideration and favouritism.
RE:cauvery
by SWAMINATHAN D on Feb 05, 2007 07:20 PM Permalink
No one save india, if indians are hate each other according to the state of origin. You have to the ARea which is going to benefit. Save agriculture that is our basic culture. Tomarrow u have pocket full 0f money, but i say u will not get a single grain to eat?! Be a india and see the fact. Jai Hind not jai karnataka or jai Tamilnadue my brother...
RE:RE:RE:cauvery
by Jagadish Namboodiri on Feb 05, 2007 07:53 PM Permalink
Is that the reason TN asking for a separate country? TN has water dispute with all the neighboring states. When Karnataka does not get good rainfall from where we give you the water. And most part of Mandya district (Which is has most part on Kaveri belt in Karnataka) does not have water for the 2nd cultivation of the year, you guys asking water for the 3rd cultivation. Don%u2019t you think this is irrational and fanatic?
RE:RE:RE:RE:cauvery
by S Kumar on Feb 05, 2007 11:31 PM Permalink
Kerala in reality does not have any right to Cauvery water. Despite all this they have been alloted a small share. It is well advised of persons like Namboodiri not to speak much on this. Kerala has not allowed Tamil nadu to raise the height of the dam, thereby violating the supreme court orders. When the neighbouring states violate the law, it is natural for Tamil nadu to make an issue of this.
RE:RE:cauvery
by Governor General on Feb 05, 2007 07:36 PM Permalink
Yep.. Even in that case.. there are international water treaties and nation states are not supposed to violate that. Grow up. Cauvery is NOT a private property of Karnataka. Anyone who's an Indian has a share to it. Karnataka was created in 1960-70. Cauvery is running from the time immemorial. Just because state demarcations in 60s allowed you the control of the land where Cauvery starts doesn't mean you own it.
RE:RE:RE:cauvery
by Hebbar R on Feb 05, 2007 08:16 PM Permalink
nobody is grudging TN share of water. The question is only of equality. Bangalore which is contributing the highest revenue from IT exports will be severely affected if there is a shortage of water. May be this is what the people of TN want, so that they can getmore of these IT industries to Chennai. TN grows 3 crops a year while Karnatake has to stop at one. Is this justice. It is nice to say that we should behave as one country. Yes we should. But, is the judgement fair to all and does the judgement encourage all of us to feel that we are one country?
RE:RE:RE:RE:cauvery
by S Kumar on Feb 05, 2007 11:36 PM Permalink
This is just an emotional outburst of words from a fanatic. Just by this decree, IT industries in Karnataka would not suffer. Karnataka has an excellent ground water table as compared to any of the southern states. Even if the entire Cauvery water was distributed to other states, it would still have abundant water. Karnataka's water source include Cauvery, Krishna, Tungabhadra etc.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:cauvery
by deepak jg on Feb 09, 2007 05:54 PM Permalink
Helloo Mr. Kumar tamil nadu have more ground water nearlly 130 tmc of ground water they get, you how we are
RE:RE:RE:RE:cauvery
by on Feb 05, 2007 10:23 PM Permalink
How many of you here are real farmers? I am from village in far end of cauvery delta, recently, there has never been more than one crops. Raising two crops is a distant past. 3?? Are you going by media propaganda??
Instead of discussing this issue as one state VS another. Focus should be on better use of resource. Entire cauvery water resource should be regulated based on cauvery basin population and its needs. Irrigation lands and industries should limited.
Water conservation, Best Irrigation methods, Suitable crops utilising less waters should be real focus throught the basin.
With clear signs of gloabl warming onset, we should stay united to face the future.
