%u2022 By education I am a Christian, by culture I am a Muslim, by coincidence I am a Hindu. -> By Mr. Nehru Should we really celebrate his birth date as Children%u2019s day of India? %u2022 I can be called a Donkey, but please do not call me a Hindu. -> By Mr. Nehru Should we call him %u2018Pandit%u2019? %u2022 Compared to western culture & society, Indian society & culture is really low. By Mr. Nehru Was he really a Indian? %u2022 I am very much feared of the Sanatan (Hindu) culture & society. I always hate Sanatan dharm & society. I want to destroy Sanatan religion & society. %uF0E0 from his autobiography. %u2022 After the independence of India, renowned Pandit Darvidshastri jee & Pandit Karpatra jee told Mr. Nehru & Sardar Patel that they can give the draft copy of constitution based on the Ramayan-Mahabharat time & world%u2019s 1st Economist Chanakya pandit%u2019s writing. They (Pandit Darvidshastri jee & Pandit Karpatra jee) did not want their name, they just wanted India%u2019s actual progress.
In the Jawaharlal Nehru University, the joke is that there are professors to spout the Chinese, the German or the American line, but none who support the Indian one. The trouble is that this is no joke. As the fawning supplication before White Trash Sonia Gandhi (and by implication her backers) has shown, we have a long way to go before being free.
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Loan Shark on Nov 05, 2007 06:28 AM Permalink
This is all made up. Nehruji had great regard for hinsuism and rights of hindus.
Just another RSS dimwit trying to malign Nehru's image with made up quotes with no mention of source to backup.
RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Rajeev on Nov 05, 2007 06:29 AM Permalink
you read his autobiography, you will come to know how much respect he had about Hinduism & culture.
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Rajeev on Nov 05, 2007 06:38 AM Permalink
Nehru was not even elected by Congress as PM, is was sardar Patel. But it was the Gandhi Jee, who favored Nehru over Patel. It was because of Nehru part of the Kashmir is still occupied by Pakistan, part os our land occupied by China.... Hindi chini Bhai bhai... ha...ha.... now china started claiming Arunachal also as their part.
RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Loan Shark on Nov 05, 2007 06:43 AM Permalink
right! that was a smart decision and Sardar himself supported that decision because Sardar Patel's health was deteriorating ... he could not handle PMship ... He died in 1950 and for over a year he was in bed.
So, who would have become India's PM in 1950 after Sardar's death? Now, BJP supporters will say Jinnah the secular and nationalist (LOL @ Advani) except that he was already dead in 1948.
RE:RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Rajeev on Nov 05, 2007 07:01 AM Permalink
If you have read Discovery of India then you will remember that Mr. Nehru saying that Lord Ram was never existed... he was a imaginary character.... he is not god.
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by ravinandanprakash agrawal on Nov 05, 2007 07:22 AM Permalink
Rajeev my freind..dont do it. I also believe in the fact "lost causes are the only causes worth fighting for". But your cause is just a lost cause. Its not worth fighting for. Give up my freind. Everyone has read Discovery of India and every one has seen shyam benegal's version. Yes Nehru has claimed that Lord Ram may be just a legend or just a character out of great literarture. Still he has never negated that it could be a full fledged word to word history. I dont care which one is true because I am an athiest and a follower of Lord Ram because he is cool. Wanna quote a great saying by Subhash babu himself "Mythology is a pictorial representation of the philosophies". Enjoy.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Loan Shark on Nov 05, 2007 07:06 AM Permalink
He has never said Lord ram never existed ... can you please quote the exact wording from Discovery of India ... you are just making it all up.
RE:RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Rajeev on Nov 05, 2007 06:59 AM Permalink
Nehru was not the real hero for India, it was Sardar Ballav Bhai Patel, Subhash chandra Bose, Bhagat Singh... it was the Nehru who signed a agreement with English that if Bode return back to India, India will handover him to English.
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Loan Shark on Nov 05, 2007 07:04 AM Permalink
I do not say that Patel, Bose and Bhagat did not contribute. Bhagat Singh was definitely not a leader .. he acted alone or in a small team, but he did not lead any mass movement.
Sardar and Netaji were great leaders. Netaji was an army defector and so subject to court martial, which I don't expect you to understand. Nehruji didn't make any mistake as Netaji were already dead in a plane crash .... now keep those conspiracy theories on his re-emergence to yourself. Write only what you can prove and backup with a reliable source.
You haven't yet answerred the question of Nehruji's biography. Admit it ... you made up all that stuff. Didn't you?
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by ravinandanprakash agrawal on Nov 05, 2007 07:01 AM Permalink
People i reckon dont waste your time on Rajeev. I didnt understand a single word because it did not make sense. Nehru giving galis to hindus :> and ten he would have the guts to think of becoming the PM through astute follower of raam, mahatma himself. Rajeev must write a book and call it 'history for fun'. Rajeev if you wanna read about Patel and Nehru you would understand that at that point India needed a home minister and a PM. Home minister for India and PM for world issues. there was a lot going on in 1947. Just think for two minutes between these people who would you wanna look after India and who you would like to see with Mountbatten, Churchill, Kennedy and Mao.
RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Loan Shark on Nov 05, 2007 07:08 AM Permalink
If you read Ramayana or Ramcharitmanas or even Ramanand Sagar's Ramayan, you will see that the book does not refer to Ram as God ... He is a prince, son of king of Ayodhya, who lives by his values. He obeyed his father to go to banwas and then lead an invasion on Lanka.
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Rajeev on Nov 05, 2007 07:12 AM Permalink
have you read Discovery of India, Please read 1st then you will come to know the actual truth. I am not saying you to read the books written by unknown person, just read Nemru's own written book.
Shayam Benegal Directed serial 'Bharat Ek Khoj' based on the Discovery of India only. It was aired on Durdarshan long back, even in that serial it was shown that Lord ram is a ordinary char.
RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Rajeev on Nov 05, 2007 07:05 AM Permalink
ravinandanprakash jee have you read Discovery of India written by Mr. Nehru? He has clearly written that Ram is not a god at all. He is a normal character. do you agree. if you do not then read the discovery of india 1st.
RE:RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Loan Shark on Nov 05, 2007 07:14 AM Permalink
I have read Discovery of India and nowhere does it say anything bad about Lord Ram.
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by mahender on Nov 05, 2007 07:21 AM Permalink
Nehru was a great visionary as far as Science and Technology is concerned(IIT's BARC,ISRO all these institutions are standing monuments of his vision).Being said that Nehru was a bad political visionary...There in no doubt that Patel and Nehru had serioos differences on many issues.Nehru never supported Somnath temple reconstruction.[Source ,go to Sabarmati Gandhi ashram,u will get books on this.].Sacrificing the primeminister post;Patel did it .bcoz Gandhiji requested him to do so..Subash ChandraBose also did the same on Gandhijis words two time.Later he left Congress.
Patel didnot accept Nehrus Chinas policies.If u want to know Patels political vision just read his letter(Source available in Sabarmati Ashram).He writes to Nehru China and India are two big nations who tries to make its impact on Asian region,So there is a natural rift between them. Patel was more like a capitalist.He was more inclined towards United States.He jeered communist model of socialism.And he proved right in political inclination,when chinese invaded India,Nehru requested Russian support for that;Russioans said India is our friend but chineses are our brothers.Later if US didnot intervened(The Then President Kennedy) Indian would have had a bad fate. Manyof this is available in a Book Sardar Patel published by Sabarmati Ashram..So u might not worry about aunthenitcity.
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by mahender on Nov 05, 2007 08:00 AM Permalink
Hi ravi,I believe Gandhiji did this mistake.But it seems Gandhiji was changing in his ideas about Nehru but he was killed before taking any decision on that..Gandhiji was a spiritual person he always followed his heart.So many times he was ambiguous
RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by ravinandanprakash agrawal on Nov 05, 2007 07:29 AM Permalink
Mahender..fantastic. really good. I didnt know about a lots of you wrote. Good job bro. I like you. Lord Ram will be with you. Though I know you dont need anything.
RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by mahender on Nov 05, 2007 08:10 AM Permalink
Regarding Chinese Russian rift.This happened in late sixties.There was territorial disputes between China and Russia and chinese developed an inclination towards Americain by opening up their markets in later decades.May be an American strategy.but it went well for Russian Chineses rift.But they continued as friends and even now the same..
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Rajeev on Nov 05, 2007 07:48 AM Permalink
Mahender, do not waste time talking to Loan Shark, he is Congress party. never going to listen truth. For him Nehru jee is the real hero not the Subhashvhndra bose, Bhagat Singh, Sardar Patel...
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by ravinandanprakash agrawal on Nov 05, 2007 08:11 AM Permalink
Hmm..mistake indeed. Still we may not know what was what. Too many things i guess. Nehru did good in my opinion. Patel couldnt do better but then he might have who knows.
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Loan Shark on Nov 05, 2007 07:35 AM Permalink
Russians and Chinese never looked eye to eye ... how could Russians consider Chinese as their brother ... Nixon built bridges with China with pakistani help to counter Soviets during the cold war.
RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Loan Shark on Nov 05, 2007 07:54 AM Permalink
LOL @ rajeev ... so you are a BJP guy ... anti-India as usual ... will appease muslims for votes, will kill Mahatma in cold blood ... you anti-national scumbags ... India knows you very well ... you cause communal divide ... cause a rift in society and then your leader from Sindh calles Jinnah a nationalist ... he is a pakistani afterall.
RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by ravinandanprakash agrawal on Nov 05, 2007 07:31 AM Permalink
Mahender. Now i am confused help me. If Patel was US like and Nehru was communist in that case Gandhiji did make a mistake. what do you think on this???
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by ravinandanprakash agrawal on Nov 05, 2007 05:46 AM Permalink
Sorry dude.I didn't get your point. Can you please simplify your thoughts? teach me like a baby. I didnt get a word on sanatan dharm.
RE:RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Loan Shark on Nov 05, 2007 06:32 AM Permalink
Hinduism is more than just sanatan dharam. What you are saying is like calling catholisism and christianity the same thing.
Arya Samajies believe in teachings Vedas, they do not believe in idol worship ... they are very much Hindus. Jains are hindus too, even though they don't beleive in sanatan dharma.
RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Rajeev on Nov 05, 2007 06:28 AM Permalink
Most of the quote was taken from his autobiography. I tried to post that link, site is not allowing me to post it. give me ur e-mail id I will send you the link.
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Sunil Kumar on Nov 05, 2007 05:33 AM Permalink
after all how come your name is Rajeev and u carry even. that is Indian CULTURE about the view.
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Rajeev on Nov 05, 2007 06:13 AM Permalink
Rajeev is not the foreign name. It is very much Indian name, the meaning of Rajeev is Chandrama (moon).
RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Rajeev on Nov 05, 2007 06:55 AM Permalink
Mr. Shark, why you hide you name? Where did u learn that Rajeev is Lotus? you pakistani, always hide name and talk.
RE:RE:Fact about Mr. Nehru
by Loan Shark on Nov 05, 2007 07:12 AM Permalink
LOL ... cat calling the pot black ... a pakistani calling me a pakistani ... anyone who questions your wisdom and challenges your hate for India's leadership is automatically a pakistani ... what are you? an India hater?
India would be a better place if you India haters went to pakistan. We don't want you Jinnahs in India ... you can go to pakistan and blow yourself to pieces. LOL
