RE:muslims and communists always work for national interest
by Money tvs on Jun 25, 2008 10:24 AM Permalink
I don't get you, what is there to be proud of communists?? pray can you explain
RE:muslims and communists always work for national interest
by satyarthi on Jun 24, 2008 04:12 PM Permalink
Wheter this in national interest or not, but they have common interest to keep this hindu land weak. In fact, muslims are feeling pressure from the west, they don't want a strong 'kafir' society in the east. Simialr is the case with REDs in China.
The scribe's report reads like a true-blue pamphlet for the Congress Party, whose lameduck prime minister - if at all he can be called that - is undergoing the mortification of having to eat his own words, day in and day out, both before his much cherished 'internationa fora' and at home, before the Leftists criminals. Man the Mouth must have learnt by now that bravado, machismo, corage and honour are not in his genes anyway, and therefore will not be the yardsticks that will ever apply to him. Journalistic sophistry can by no means conceal the obvious, foreign pedigrees notwithstanding! Jaganniwas Iyer
India has a flourishing and largely indigenous nuclear power program and expects to have 20,000 MWe nuclear capacity on line by 2020, subject to an opening of international trade. It aims to supply 25% of electricity from nuclear power by 2050. Because India is outside the Nuclear non-Proliferation Treaty, due to its weapons program, it is largely excluded from trade in nuclear plant or materials, which has hampered its development of civil nuclear energy. The nuclear weapons capability of India has arisen independently of its civil nuclear fuel cycle and uses indigenous uranium. Because of its relative isolation in international trade and lack of indigenous uranium, India has uniquely been developing a nuclear fuel cycle to exploit its reserves of thorium. Electricity demand in India has been increasing rapidly, and the 534 billion kilowatt hours produced in 2002 was almost double the 1990 output, though still representing only 505 kWh per capita for the year. In 2005 599 billion kWh was produced. The per capita figure is expected to almost triple by 2020, with 6.3% annual growth. Coal provides 69% of the electricity at present, but reserves are limited.
Nuclear power supplied 15.6 billion kWh (2.6%) of India's electricity in 2006 from 3.5 GWe (of 110 GWe total) capacity and this will increase steadily as new plants come on line. India's fuel situation, with shortage of fossil fuels, is driving the nuclear investment for electricity, and 25% nuclear contributi
RE:Nuclear Power in India
by Kris iyer on Jun 24, 2008 08:30 PM Permalink
Xman, Very useful facts, you have given us. It gives us a better idea as to how India can gradually, develop its own ways and means of, perhaps, getting maximum out of the nuclear fuel cycle and Thorium processes. Thanks.
It is worth-while to seriously study the observations made by three of our top nuclear scientists against the nuclear deal.
Mr.Prime minister need not take it as a personal issue as many critical points of the deal work against the interest of the nation.Their suggestions are worth considering and it is suicidal to ignore such valued opinions.
India should fully exploit the hydro power and thermal power routes without any dependancy on foreign technology. After that we can think of the nuclear route.It is certain that the projected figure of power production can never be achieved .
If somebody somewhere mentined about energy security and all that we need not consider it as the only option.
RE:nuclear deal
by Kris iyer on Jun 24, 2008 05:47 PM Permalink
R. Sreenivasan, Sound points. 1) I have just read the report on the Three Scientists. Their arguments are very specific. 2) I do not comprehend why Dr.Manmohan should take this as a lowering of his work or dignity. It seemed like a good idea to begin with. Not all such schemes turn out to be really good. Never mind. We should move on. I wonder if like a lot of Punjabis, if I may say so, Dr.ManMohan has problems with not being ablt to finish something he has started - a character that is useful in the army, battling our enemies. But not here, with an intricate international agreement that may last for years. 3) I do believe our people are "suggestible". Someone suggested it in the USA to "separate the military from the civilian", subject only the civilian to IAEA control, Dr. Manmohan thought it was a great idea. But every idea is great without the details. The DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS. 4) I agree with you - Hydro and Thermal power generation. I am keen on SOLAR ENERGY. See "Photo-voltaic Cells" can be improved to match production with nuclear energy. It would be cheaper in the longer run. 5) Let us see what our PRIVATE SECTOR can do in this nuclear field. Let the UPA govt., do that.
I agree with your sentiment that India may be rushed into this without proper info. Self-reliance is better than all this complicated agreements and "waiting upon others for supplies". Let us produce our own supplies.
PATIENCE, SELF-CONFIDENCE AND HARD-WORK WILL WIN EVENTUALLY.
RE:nuclear deal
by Hate Who divides on Jun 24, 2008 05:56 PM Permalink
UPA Govt has always R&R solution .............readymade and Reservation ............will make India behind all countries .......as IIT already fall down to 251 ranking in world university from 3 ...........and they are plannig to increas IIT to 16 instead of makinginfrastructure at current IIT better ........... now nuclear deal will make dependent on US and another NSG .......... How can we stop them ??? Gods know
You have brought out many more points.It is really a learning to all.Hope UPA Govt.would ultimately see reason in these arguments and take a sensible decision.
Even China has entered into a deal with USA.China is governed by a separate US law on this subject.If we can get it clearly that the terms on which the USA has dealt with us thru 123 and Hyde Act are no worse than what the Chinese have got,we need not get into a lather on this and signing and going forward is no tragedy. IIn the context of global warming and the finite petroleum resources.it makes sense that we rely more on efficient nuclear reactors.The argument that new nuclear capacity is expensive in terms of capital cost shd not deter us as we shd pay for such energy rather than have freebies.Nation building requires some sacrifice.I suppose people can hardly be expected to believe this,as crony capitalists abound in this country like real estate developers and telecom kings.That is why noone will buy the argument that this is for the long term energy security of the country.
RE:RE:Re:Relevant Question
by krupakaran on Jun 24, 2008 04:16 PM Permalink
China is recognised as a nuclear weapon state under NPT and whether they sign an agreement with US or not , they can trade with all other countries under NSG guidelines.NSG was created by US only to corner and idsolate India. Having strangled nuclear supplies to India , now they are offering a relaxation provided we get involved in their conflicts and with all options open to them to cease their conflicts leaving us to hold the baby. We have domestic uranium mining options and there arew good russian offers of offshore nuclear stations without going to NSG> These should see us thru until our Thorium route is firmed up to utilise our global no. 1 thorium resereves.
RE:Re:Relevant Question
by Kris iyer on Jun 24, 2008 06:02 PM Permalink
John Bosco, I am sure you wd have read Krupakaran's reply. 1) China "gate crashed" into the exclusive "Nuclear Club". So, China is a "have". India is still a "have not". Therefore, this 1,2,3 Agreement won't be the same as China-US Agreement. 2) China is not happy with this Indo-US deal. 3) I agree with Krupakaran on the role of the NSG - The West wanted to draw the line in the sand before India could cross it. Don't ask abt Pakistan. No one knows why the USA is okay with that Islamic centre of terrorism, not only holding nuclear bombs but also selling them. 4) Krupakaran is right to mention: THORIUM, India has huge reserves. It is a sister-element of Uranium, I believe, occurs the two appear in the same group in the "Periodic Table" scientists use to classify elements. 5) He mentions also something new: "The Russian offer of off-shore nuclear power-generation". It wd be interesting to get more info. on this, if Krupakaran can dig up.
I firmly believe that the 123 nuke deal with USA is good for India for the sole and ONLY reason that the commies are opposing it. If the communists oppose anything it means that it is good for India but perhaps very bad for China. Indian communists are traitors to the nation. Just read their history and you will know all about them.
RE:Nuke Deal is good for India
by Ramesh Reddy on Jun 24, 2008 03:52 PM Permalink
Havent the Congress been great traitors??They also have a very poor record.
RE:Nuke Deal is good for India
by Anil Bharali on Jun 24, 2008 04:58 PM Permalink
Commies have organised nationwide protest against inflation andopposes pricerise of essential commodities and commual agenda of some forces so you mean itis good for india ,right !
RE:MMS is a BJP spy
by Money tvs on Jun 25, 2008 11:34 AM Permalink
Do you think MMS has enough power to weaken congress. he is a puppet. if ever someone is weakening the congress, its sonia and her ilk. Do you think she is an agent of BJP?
prime minister's statement that only nuclear power only can meet the energy requirement of our country is not correct.moreover we need not go for nucler plants where we have to depend on imports of uranium.we can solve this problem by adopting biomass power plants.for this we need 10%of forest land reserved for growing miscanthus grass a family of bamboo which also absorbs more carbon than any other plant and without spoiling ecological balance.the gestation period is only two year by that time the energy plant can be installed.complete europe is working on this and spain has succeeded.instead our prime minister can concentrate on having strategic alliance with usa ignoring the communists.afterall china developed only with usa alliance.our comrades will never learn to work hard and come up.instead of political gambling we need will power of a statesman.
Republicans are putting pressure on Pakistan to catch Osama and on India to sign the Nuke deal. Both will lead to their sure-shot victory. One of them will give a boost but none of them will lead to sure defeat because they have no other achievement worth name to boast off before the american public.
i would not trust the congress and the other allies. Even if they went their seperate ways now fought an election against each other only to come back and eat from the same plate just to keep the BJP out. So wat does this mean that they are just oppurtunists and hood wink the common man every time. I say dump the deal as many of our our finiest minds have said no to it as it takes away our soverignity to develop and test further. But I guess the communist and the congress dont have a problem with that. The communist are only opposing to keep the chinese happy its not a national sentiment to oppose the deal.
RE:Dont trust them
by jas india on Jun 24, 2008 03:24 PM Permalink
Congratulation| You are getting very confidential report that Communists are working here for making Chinese happy. You are a brilliant and great person. Please keep it up.
RE:Dont trust them
by satyarthi on Jun 24, 2008 03:33 PM Permalink
As a matter of fact, both Pakistan and China are not happy with the deal. That explains the behaviour of their 'kepts' in India. BJP knew it, it was aware of the 'wakness' of the PM, so it kept itself away, by sticking to 'usual opposition role'.
