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by Sanjay on Dec 27, 2005 06:10 PM  Permalink 

Thanks Mr. Subhash for enlighting us with the information. This is all I can max do. Other than this neither you nor I nor does few others who realise the problems can do anything. If by "miracle" we all stand together to speak out we would be termed extremist not only by the outsiders but also by our fellow Indians who prefer to be ignorant.

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Counter-intuitive ways of Democracy
by Harsh on Dec 27, 2005 06:08 PM  Permalink 

Clearly democracy has its unique and counter-intuitive ways of functioning. To be or not to be - remains the perennial dilemma for the governing and the governed indeed !

Do citizens have real bargaining power ? The inadequate voting arrangements have been already countered so very effectively and the audience/spectators are left to wonder ; judiciary had closed eyes at inception ; civil society so easily neutralised; and media has its very own dilemmas ?

Yes More questions than answers in the path to progress as long as we get there (stylizing the march - few steps forward and few retraced). Hoping though net movement is forward and in the hallowed direction !!

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This will be challenged on court
by sankar on Dec 27, 2005 06:05 PM  Permalink 

The incumbent HRD minister's perversions are well known. This is his
latest misadventure and this will be challenged in the court of law.



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What next?
by Phaneendra on Dec 27, 2005 06:04 PM  Permalink 

I read almost an identical piece by Amulya Ganguly in Deccan Chronicle. There is every reason to question the premise that reservations will alleviate supposed historical injustices. As a nation we must create better conditions for all classes of people, offer educational facilities and financial assistance and even coaching for higher education. But reserving seats indisciminately is not the solution. Mahatma Gandhi clearly wrote against curbing private enterprise, and offered the vision of Trusteeship. Does any MP remember Gandhi's words? It's sad that quoting Gandhi has become unfashionable.

Clearly the trend is to expand the scope of reservations into more areas, perhaps judiciary and armed forces. What will be the next target?

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Cry, my beloved country
by Vineet on Dec 27, 2005 05:48 PM  Permalink 

We have leaders who are men of straw. Perhaps the coming days will be worse

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Time to Change amendments
by Suresh on Dec 27, 2005 05:45 PM  Permalink 

Its a high time to reconsider the reservation policies in indian constitution. Years ago since the BC,OBC,SC,ST where considered as backward Dr.Ambedkar put reservations into constitution, but in todays india BC/SC/ST/OBC are given the highest position in the society. They are given free education, food, and jobs. Irrespective of the person is willing to study/work he is given seat in college/job in government institution.

Its high time to consider the "free things" based on the skills he or she have, instead of giving it for every one.

As our author said politicians promise or do the "reservations" or so called "Free things" for vote. Politicians should do things which benefit all people but not only a group of people.

If this is the kind of progress, tomorrow, there will be "Free things" in IT and BPO industries also, which will gradually move the IT and BPO industries out of india.

Apeal to all Politicians "Think the future".

Dr.Ambedkar did the proper thing, but whoever came later screwed up the constitution.

Learn good things from other countries. I guess no where in the world there are "reservations"


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Reservation for communities lagging behind in education
by k k vaisoha on Dec 27, 2005 05:45 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

UPA Govt. has done a good thing by passing this legislation to reserve seats for the communities running behind in education.

The whole of India needs to move forward and this cannot happen if the large percentage of the Indian population is not allowed access to good quality education.

We in India want to erect apartheid to keep the whole of India backward.

Mr. Kak , you are terribly wrong and you lack in vision of India that needs to march forward.This cannot happen if you are going to be negative in your understanding of Indian needs.

UPA has done the right thing and we must all aplaud it.

Just read the history of Korea what it has achieved by being forward thinking in education.It is due to liberal approach that Korea is so far ahead of us while in 1947 it was on par with us in education.Korea invested heavily in education and it has been the best decision.

We should urge the UPA or whatever Govt. we have to invest far more in education.Looking at the vast openings for our people in Spainish, Portugese, Francophone, German, Russian,Japanese and Chinese areas we should encourage learning of these languages in a very escalated manner.

Reservation is good.kkv

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RE:Reservation for communities lagging behind in education
by sachin on Jan 04, 2006 10:22 AM  Permalink
I agree that reservations are good, but not in Private Institutions. First and most improtant reason is that the efficiency and quality of education that a Private Eductaion Institution is able to give, will degrade. Look at Goverment Run institution. The quality of education is really poor. Many of them do not even have sufficient number of teachers. Need is to improve the infrastructure of Goverment aided schools, and not to impede the growth or quality of Private Education Institution (speacilly Unaided). One more important thing you are missing is reservations are done totally on political basis. Is there any logic to give reservations to so called minority section if they already are getting reservation in aided institutions. Also by giving reservations to a small section of soceity on basis of caste you are depriving the majority section (who may be economically backward) from their share of education. Time has arrived that the reservations now should be made only on basis of economic status and not on caste or creed. And such reservations then should be in all kinds of institutions, be it in minority run intitutions or majority run institutions.

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RE:Reservation for communities lagging behind in education
by Vipul on Apr 11, 2006 09:22 AM  Permalink
u r absolutily right abt korea but u failed to mention that korea dont have any reservation either in educational institute or in jobs.if u r mentioning abt education just by giving reservation in IIT's and IIM's is not going to help out OBC,SC,ST.but they have to come up by doing more hard work to compete in market.but i m feeling very sorry to say they r lagging behind in this.every year lots of seats go vacent bcoz they r not getting enough students from SC,ST even after reservation.and not only that once they get addimission also,they could not able to clear papers bcoz there is no reservation in that and u have to work hard to clear ur papers.i can tell u bcoz i was in IIT from 1992-1998.i did my B.Tech(1996) and M.Tech(1998).and i have seen lots of boyes not able to come up there bcoz there mind is not upto that standard.what i wish to tell u is that first u give them good and free education atleast upto 12std.and after that if required then reservation but not more then another 10 years.after that it should be equall opportunity for all.
i hope it will help u out in ur views abt reservation.


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by Sanjay Pandita on Dec 27, 2005 04:44 PM  Permalink 

This is more of a political move than real concern for the socially neglected sections of the society. It has been the misrule of Congress that has created such a sorry state of affairs where each section of the society is seeking compartmentalization from others. The irony is that our nation builders are dividing masses in the name of social justice. These divide and rule policies from the indigenous politician should alert the masses as regards their bona fides. BJP as a party would have gained much more than it has. It would have gained more votes by highlighting the negative impact that this Bill is going to have on the country as a nation. The almost unanimous decision on this shows the political opportunism and lack of will to set things right on the part of BJP.

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