It is good for Rajeev to raise awareness, by documenting some cases of Indians suffering abroad. Most of the cases are of individuals, some from Fiji and so on. For India, and other powers too, even the USA, direct intervention, may not be possible. Individual americans, british and other europeans have been treated badly too. In such cases, 1) The usual start is with the embassies and highcommissions India has in those countries. I am of the view, they do not always take the initiative to a) scan the news reports to locate any Indian angles b)make inquiries through phone-calls. A call from the Indian embassy would put a jail supdt., or other officials on alert that there is interest at the higher levels over Nand Chand, for example. c) Indian news agencies can high-light the case in the indian media. Some ministers and officials do read newspapers. d) There are now many "Indian" newspapers in the USA, UK, and every country where Indians live. They too can help. British media will publicise cases involving individual Britons in trouble abroad.
Once I asked an Indian correspondent in Singapore, whether he would highlight "flogging" of "over-stayers" from India. Thailand and M'sia protested to Singapore on that issue. He said that if he did that, he and his family would be asked to leave Singapore within 48 hours!! In such cases, Indian newspapers need to publish under the name of "special correspondent", as "The (Anti)Hindu" does. But they never do!! No interest.
RE:Days of
by Humanvalue on Jun 17, 2008 05:35 AM Permalink
If there is a rule that clearly states that over stayers would be flogged - why do Indians overstay? Follow the rules! One should remember that one cannot break laws in other countries with the same impunity as one does in India.
It is sad to realise that India as a country has a hard time defining itself that it is no wonder the world cares little for its Hindu people. One can blame the pacific element in Hinduism which exerts the greatest violence and prejuidice on their own that any outsider has been a welcome and honoured guest. This has reinforced the idea in other countries that anything can be done to a Hindu with impunity. Whether it is Hinduism or the cowardice and selfishness of our our people is irrelevant as one is synonemous with the other. The Government could hardly be different but I have at times seen devoted servants of the Indian state doing their very best against the contra trends that dibhilitates their capacity to do much good. Kushwant Singh has written that this character has been shaped by the insecurity presented by the seemingly impenetrable Himalayes which in reality proved an illusion. Lack of security has not been compensated by a political capacity and sagacity to strike at the enemy on his ground before he had inevitably at Bharat at its heart. If that was the for the last several milleniums, the modern India is now weighed down on its wings by Islamic states and a beligerant China on its doorsteps atop the Himalayes in a way no previous enemy threatened. Diversity in race and creed has been India's bane not its fortune. India may appear powerful but has no where to projects its power under its leadership.
'A Country is only as good as its people'. So the pathetic state you are mentioning is neither indias problem, nor government problem. Because, our government is only as good as the people who elected it. So when people want things and fight for it it will happen.
RE:Not India's problem!.
by Kris iyer on Jun 13, 2008 08:00 AM Permalink
Shadow, That is it. You have the "bottom-line" on this and many other issues of governance or the lack of it in India. I live in a state of India, where "straw figures" are elected time and again on mere emotional talk of "liguistic and ethnic chauvinism"; where politics is the "best business" there is; where caste has been made the "centre of politics", no attempt to eardicate caste, except to abuse brahmins, while making one's own caste attract as many "benefits" as possible.
This is false article. When a muslim terrorist from india was arrested The prime minister himself spent many a sleepless night thinking about his agony, and the minister of foreign affairs did everything he could to get the muslim terrorist free..
Sir, in India almost all people live and die for money these days. This is not only the poor people, forlorn and forsaken people and the destitute who need money to buy a simple plate of rice... but the stinkingly rich, hedonistic individuals who spend crores in fashion and pleasures but drive out the beggars from their doors. LIVING FOR PRINCIPLES has long gone from the country. I am not saying NO MONEY but remember the Vishnu to whom Lakshmi came. The Lord Vishnu stands for bravery, auspiciousness, purity, courage, vigour, good conduct, beauty, valour, strength, non-idleness, generosity, love. We should cultivate these (or at least) a few of these. Then Laksmi would automatically bless us with her looks! Can the jewel box inside the house be opened by searching outside? Similarily one should concentrate on improving oneself, then the jewels called wealth, happiness and contentment will be ours! I am saying all this because our government is more inclined towards SEX EDUCATION than VALUE EDUCATION. It drives money grabbers and topples honesty. It runs the vehicle called secularism mercilessly over the hearts of the God fearing hindus and lets go of evil mongers through manipulation... all for Lakshmi, unless Vishnu is there, there can be NO VICTORY!
RE:All people live and die for money!
by ZOMB on Jun 13, 2008 07:00 AM Permalink
What utter drivel! what are you talking about? What God is going to help people who are killed by society? Man created God to conquer his insecurity and not the other way around. What is God fearing? Have you ever thought about that? Its just baffling to think God would help you out. How many beggars have you given money to? There are no inherent rules in world and God certainly dint create any. Good and bad are mere perceptions . Get a life.
The Indian political system does not nurture caring as it has snubbed all religious & ethnic bonding. India had earlier dumped its own people at partition in Pakistan. No one stood for the rights and wellbeing of Hindus left in E & W Pakistan. A more caring society would have ensured, if not pressured Pak to become secular with justice for all. India is country indifferent to its own people, but gets excited over idealism.
i can only gawk at rajeev's expectations of the indian govt. it should be understood that the nehru/congress mentality is that india ultimately has to turn british/european to be recognized as civilized/cultured - so the brits can do no wrong in the eyes of these coconuts. and crimes like jalaianwala bagh are "inevitable excesses" for the "greater cause". "modern" india today is a country without shame or honour or pride - just a bunch of monkeys running around in suits without a clue about its native traditions - and so no wonder the world despises us. in contrast traditional india has always enjoyed respect - from mao to mark twain to the brazilian legislators who recently ignored pratibha patil but turned up in droves to meet sri sri ravishankar.
It is said that 'Love thy neighbour' but most Indians do not easily mingle with their neighbours. There is jealousy and selfishness in their hearts from their neighbours. These same guys r very friendly and open with guys who r not their neighbours.
Arre fools, when something happens to u, it is your neighbours' doors that u knock first. Hence, have a good relationship with your neighbour. A relationship of trust and genuine concern and caring and sharing. Do not have any ulterior motive in this relationship to your own detriment.
