There are several reasons for its faliure the primary one's are-
1. When you peanuts you get monkeys. There is a constant tendency in Indian companies to say their employees work for them for "higher satisfaction". A prime example being TCS where the same management which issues itself shares for Re1/- and the same employers who gohome with large earnings and buy other companies to increase their wealth somehow when it comes to employees say that they need not pay higher salaries as employees are given much more satisfactory work. At some point people realize the fool management is making of them and leave. No wonder then that companies that pay more like Infy and Reliance do better in productivity
2. Project Management - Bureaucrats that frame the grants for government departments dont have a clue what will be the cost of such projects. They try to randomly reduce budget allocations. Departments like DRDO sometimes submit lower project estimates to ensure a project is passed but once they get going the pinch hits them and then they have to wait for next grant which requires more effort and more time delaying projects
3. Sometimes its just best not to reinvent the wheel. Boeing doesnt need to make its own engines as long as Rolls Royce and GE engines suit the requirement. Delhi Metro doesnt need to build its own train if their are vendors that can reliably supply it in cost efficient way. TELCO doesnt need to design Indica if work can be done better in Italy. Dell doesnt n
I wonder who paid whom and how much to have this article written?
Overnight all things done till todate have been negated by this paid off stooge. When will we learn to be independent and self reliant.With friends like these writers who said India needs enemies.
RE:WHAT WAS THE KICK BACK FOR WRITING THIS?
by commander hans on Jan 18, 2008 08:38 PM Permalink
bandopadhyay babu....kya kar rahe...jaante ho kis ke baare mein baat kar rahe ho...
Wow!! everything torn to shreads now.. So whats next?
The main reason i see for DRDOs failure is becasue of poor recruitment of talent. They never get talented people, I would got to the extent to say even APJK was not talented.. he had no creativism.. The media has over hyped his worth..he was merely a book worm who could never go beyond the boders of what he read from books..
The problem starts right from our universties which trash and shelf really taleneted students who dont do well in acadmics.. the DRDO needs a better system for recruitment of new talent that really thinks out of the box... the question is do such talented boys survive our universities!!?
3. How many IITian's join the DRDO?? Today engineers prefer to work in call centre's but not in organizations like DRDO.True that the pay doesn't match with private companies, but then is money the only crieterion???
4. Is the typical Indian Mentality of adoring any Phoren made goods over indigenious hurting our research?? What about the huge commisions involved in any defence in import of any defence products. Look at the recent Helicopter deals, Submarine deal and so many other.
DRDO needs to go in for a course correction by involving Indian and Foreign Private entities. But we need to support them compliment them. For a change lets talk about their limited success. Lets talk about the challenging environment in which they work against so many constraints.
I don't think it's fair to put all the blame on DRDO for its not so good track record.
1. The author of the article claims that DRDO has a purist mentality and always trying to re-invent the wheel. But 25 yrs back which major world power was open to share its technology for missiles, radar's etc. It is a folly to assume that the whole world was willing to give technology and India and DRDO was simply refusing all the time. Even today the range of Brahmos is limited to less than 300km because of the MTCR. Not even Russia will give technology for cruise missile which has range of more than 300 km. It is just in these last 7-8 yrs where economics is dictating the terms and some world powers are coming ahead but its really NOT in those areas which are of strategic importance like Ballistic Missiles, Long range Surface to Air Missile's. So when it comes to Long range missiles we have to develop it on our own.
2. The author claims that Pakistan was more pragmatic by striking alliance with China and developing weapons. Now this is the worst comparison given for India. We can never stoop to the level of Pakistan which SMUGGLED missiles from North Korea, China in abeyance of every International Law. Its the worst kept secret that the Ghauri's, Hatf's, Shaheen's, Babur's are all Chinese or North Korean SMUGGLED products. We can never do this and i am proud that we never tried doing this. Pakistan has already started to panic on the recent success of the Anti Missile System of D
RE:Are we weaker than Mullahs?
by SoftWords BigStick on Jan 16, 2008 10:30 AM Permalink
Let all people in border states eat lots of dal. The resulting gas will be enough to take care of the jihadis across the border. No need to waste any missiles on those scum ...
I am a little surprised the tank Arjun is reported as "not tested enough". In fact, Arjun is the world's MOST TESTED main battle tank. The writer makes a lot of valid points. Fortunately, India has developed the BrahMos, though I am not certain the military has been supplied with it. Also the CPI(M), with instructions from China, has effectively blocked all cooperation with the US and Israel. But I think India has already inducted an old US warship into the navy and has inked the deal (under Vajpayee) that brings the Arrow missile shield of Israel to India. I hope the Chinese agents do not come to power again in 2009
RE:I am not ready to believe this completely
by commander hans on Jan 18, 2008 08:47 PM Permalink
banerjee babu cheez ko test hee karte rahoge ya use bhi karoge...do you know the army refuses to use that monstrous piece of junk....
RE:RE:I am not ready to believe this completely
by Anil Yadav on Jan 16, 2008 10:18 AM Permalink
i want to say one thing about the MBT arjun who is acording to our army a failure....
in last year testing of T90 and Arjun one of the russian guy simplya said that arjun will eat T90 in breakfast i dont know why indian army is so favourable for T90 when they hav arjun....
RE:I am not ready to believe this completely
by dinesh prasad on Jan 16, 2008 11:15 AM Permalink
Yes it will eat the T-90 for breakfast and sit like a duck,maybe that's why ! :-)
RE:I am not ready to believe this completely
by ajit singh on Jan 16, 2008 10:22 AM Permalink
I agree with you. These politician are playing with the security of the country.
Even a average person can understand the importance of nuke deal but these CPI's are not allowing it to materialise.
Something must be done at DRDO to motivate the scientist. I have seen when i scientist start his career with DRDO his salary is less than INR 10000. He takes few years exp. and then move to NASA or some other organisation. If a person watch closely there are n number of incident that are enough to demotivate a scientist at DRDO.
RE:I am not ready to believe this completely
by MS on Jan 16, 2008 10:06 AM Permalink
Till recently, neither our research establishments have shown interest in approaching our universities nor have our univesities shown much interest in taking up projects of national importance.
DRDO can do with more autonomy. They always seem to be run to Delhi and wait for decisions from the political establishment or a corrupt beauracracy. Jaswanth Singh suggested changing union budget rules to allow bi-annual defence budgets.
DRDO can be lot smaller than what it is today. They can do without chauffers for lab directors and all those colonial hangovers.
1- It's nice to see rediff publish an article that shreds aparts the nationalistic fervor associated with most of the articles here and does a reality check.
2- Good to see Indian media[atleast rediff] acknowledge the utter failure of DRDO in anything technical that it undertook. It's nice to know the truth that agni,tirshul,nag ,akash,privthi - none of them is a complete success.This should provide some food for thought to some our chauvinistic compatriots,some right here in the coments section.
3- What is actually not correct in the article is its insinuation that lack of collobaration[reinventing wheel] hampered the success and progress.FALSE. Lack of collaboration might slow down projects but they wont lead to failure unless our drdo top brass with their oversized egos and their chelas are an utter failure.
4- DRDO is a namesake 'research' center.Nothing remotely associate with research happens there.I have been to DRDL labs in hyderabad.Maybe the 'defence' should be changed to 'domestic' and they can stick to their successfull breeding and argricultural programmes.That's much better.
5-While collaboration is essential in some areas,the fact is we DONOT have R&D infrastructure in our country. There isn't a robust education system to support such endeavours either.
6-All these DRDO along with its cabal of scientists including kalam were hyped to be some sort of an einstein or a Bose.Fact is they are none.
RE:A rarity in rediff,i.e quality articles like this
by Ram Chauthariya on Jan 16, 2008 09:57 AM Permalink
Yes, a rare Investigative piece of Journalism
RE:A rarity in rediff,i.e quality articles like this
by dinesh prasad on Jan 16, 2008 07:30 AM Permalink
7-Also,everyone seems to blame the politicians.Nonsense.Newton or Galelio weren't encouraged by their incumbent powers.Drdo is full of useless people.
8-It is time that DRDO be completely dismantled and funds either invested in TIFR,IISC by inducting new programmes or open it to competetive development.
9-Arjun battle tank is a big joke in defence technology circles worldwide with it's overweight body for its class and its underperforming engine and cooling systems.
10-Each scientist at DRDO enters and sits there with a secure job and no work to do and no interest either.
RE:A rarity in rediff,i.e quality articles like this
by murali gandluru on Jan 16, 2008 09:06 AM Permalink
"Drdo is full of useless people." It is truly hilarious that you are able to sit in your arm chair and make such a sweeping generalisation.
RE:A rarity in rediff,i.e quality articles like this
by commander hans on Jan 18, 2008 08:49 PM Permalink
i can understand ur frustation, with a name a like gandluru...you are sealed for life...hope u dont work for drdo...
DRDO has a very good number of scientists who spent their entire life for the nation by doing a lot of R&D. There are lot many things that are developed by DRDO. But the political people have their decisions forcibly endorsed on DRDO which make the developed things go under wrap. Readers can come to know more about if they read "The Wings of Fire" by Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam who was our former president.
RE:What author says makes eminent sense: Allow Private sector into Indian Defense sector Manufacturing
by commander hans on Jan 18, 2008 08:52 PM Permalink
godrej????
do a bit of research see what kind of hurdles drdo is putting for those org...
RE:What author says makes eminent sense: Allow Private sector into Indian Defense sector Manufacturing
by Sanjay on Jan 16, 2008 05:26 AM Permalink
best solution,only private players would be able to wine, dine these babus, and give them good kickback.
RE:What author says makes eminent sense: Allow Private sector into Indian Defense sector Manufacturing
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jan 16, 2008 05:31 AM Permalink
Confused, or Taqiyya! You must be belonging to either of these two groups.
