Everyone is speaking against these buses without giving concrete solution.No doubt, the conductors and drivers of these buses are always in haste soas to earn maximum. But what our Traffic Police fellows,one can see on each and every red light are doing? Just overlooking. They are busy in making challans for private car owners/two wheelers to warm their own pockets. They do not want to control the pedestarians, cyclists,riksaws,etc., who do not follow any traffic rule. At many places infrastructure is very poor to cater the mass population. In case Blue line is banned, same drivers and conductors will ply other buses. We should better administer the traffic instead of crying.We should also accept, Delhi has a population of more than 1.5 crores, equal to a many countries, An awareness at all levels will reduce the risk.
All these blueline drivers and conductors are criminals from haryana who nto only kill people on road but even molest evetease and rape girls and ladies. They are uncivilized people makign Delhi dirty. Ban Haryanvis and Jatts in Delhi, Delhi will be a civilized place to live in thereafter.
RE:Haryana is minace for Delhi
by simha chalam on Oct 19, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink
Oh U F Rediff this is a old news pub earlier...why R U putting it again.., Got nothing new ??then just sit dumb..you AHs
RE:Haryana is minace for Delhi
by Sanjay Rawat on Oct 19, 2007 01:14 PM Permalink
I am fully agreed with Murli. I have this notion that Delhi is being ruined by its neighboring states and villages. I spent a lot of time in Delhi and was really shocked to see the nature of these drivers. Govt and police must do something.
The Delhi govt can easily sanction 2000 buses at a cost of Rs 15,00,000 each which works out to be 300 crores. These buses are more modern and comfortable than current buses. It can easily raise this amount through long term loans at low interest rates available for govt and public sector entities. If Delhi is spending a 100 times more than that before the commonwealth games, this would be a small compromise. Get rid of the Bluelines. Follow the example of BEST which is the best run transport PSU in the country which plies on time, is safe and doesnt have people hanging out of doors, windows and roofs.
The Blue line buses employ mostly uneducated people as their staff and their behavior is horrible. They use the worst language to the passengers. I have experienced this many times. On many occasions, i (along with other passengers) was told to get out of the bus half way through since they haven't got enough number of passengers in the bus to make a profit and so they r cancelling the trip !!!
RE:Blue line or Red line
by pradeep ray on Oct 19, 2007 10:55 AM Permalink
Exactly. Blueline bus conductors are vey rude, uncivilised and mostly unsocialised. Their attitudes towards passengers are very bad even worst. Blueline buses must be phased out very soon and accordingly more DTC buses must be arranged to accomodate the passengers.
This can be changed by making a simple law. If a blue line bus is caught speeding arrest,driver,bus staff,contracter and the bus owner under non bellable warrant. The mininum fine should be 5 lac rupees which should increase with the speed at which the bus was caught. The property of all the bus staff,contacter and owner should be seized immediatly. I know this is tough. The second more simple option is to take the laws in there hands by public. They should beat the bus staff,contractor and owner of the bus so badly that they cannot move from bed for whole of there life. When there famlies will suffer they will uderstand and in way other bus owners will also understand.
RE:Simple law can change this.
by ratheesh p on Oct 19, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
Be pragmatic my friend..If public take the laws in their hands then delhi will become like Bihar (as many incidents had happened within these two month)..i think u had not gone through that....i think u want to make one more bihar in India..all evil crimes r going on there..
RE:Simple law can change this.
by vinay thakur on Oct 19, 2007 01:53 PM Permalink
Dear Ratheesh,People taking laws in their hands is not the exact thing happenning out there.People were suffering for long at least 15yrs during Laloo raj.Present Bihar govt made Police and judiciary more strict and criminals started getting punished.So this was just normal behaviour.Speedy court trials has convicted at least 50000 guilties in Bihar including Shabuddin and Anand Mohan.This is not public outrage but frustration of public coming out when they feel that govt and Police is with them. Delhi is no more good that Bihar in that sense.Go and try to register and FIR with Delhi Police.Captial of the country and despite all tall claims you are discouraged to make FIR in even simple cases like stolen vehichle. Policement taking bribes openly on road from bus drivers!MCD and every state dept is as corrupt as ever. Even then if you leave everything in the hands of DP,then situation is never going to improve.
RE:Simple law can change this.
by Chamarthi Srinivas on Oct 19, 2007 08:36 AM Permalink
The Bus should be crushed or burned down at the same spot! so the contractor will hire proper persons and also some new ones come on the road instead of old ones! hahahha
RE:Simple law can change this.
by abhay madhukar rawle on Oct 19, 2007 01:26 PM Permalink
good choice, this will help for new buses also get auto companies work so they can reduce the cost
RE:Simple law can change this.
by paras shah on Oct 19, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
No, I think that there should not be any violence created but each and every individual should think the importance of their lives. They should travel through DTC buses and not enter these buses atall. I think this may teach them a lesson..for this very important is that individual should think and should be awakened by media and local channels and newspapers.
RE:Simple law can change this.
by Ramasubramaniam Iyer on Oct 19, 2007 01:50 AM Permalink
no dear friend. Your solution may only increase more violence on part of bus drivers. If we implement these type of solutions our nation will be in chaos. Then the line between right and wrong will become thin. SOlution has to be objective/pragmatic also ensure livelihood of these bus drivers is not jeopardised.
RE:Simple law can change this.
by Truth hurts on Oct 19, 2007 02:41 AM Permalink
Thanks man but I do not see any improvement made by India by following your way. Only fear can correct them, they will only understand value of life if and only if they loose some one who is dear to them
RE:RE:Simple law can change this.
by Ramasubramaniam Iyer on Oct 19, 2007 10:58 PM Permalink
By resorting to violence by the public dont you think the bus drivers unions will also resort to violence. Have a citizens meeting with the unions and owners and contractors. Dont threaten to beat them but identify ways and means to curb this menace. I am not a follower of Gandhiji but I believe that violence should be used only where it is necessary. Convince the owners/contractors/drivers that there might come a day when their own Kith and Kin might be in one of this accidents and that they are not immune. Thats the way to resolve problems like these. Also did you see how many people crowd into these buses. Why? People are equally responsible for the blame. We blame everything on the system and we dont make any attempt to correct it. This includes me. Let everyone make money but also be responsible for their ownerships. Thats what as citizens we need to convey. The beating of these people may also lead to uncontrollable riots. If the busowners/drivers/contractors dont listen then just stop using these buses. Dont insist on the driver to go faster if you are getting late
RE:Simple law can change this.
by Chamarthi Srinivas on Oct 19, 2007 08:34 AM Permalink
yeah wht u said is correct Example NAGPUR house wives. The system is corrupt and only public anger should be directed! even judiciary also works under public anger..example jassica case and recent culcutta case. Am I wrong!!??
It doesn't matter how much the owner charges or how much a contractor 'must' make per day. Rules are rules, and this is lives of ordinary people. There is no excuse for killing people randomly. The problem is the corrupt politicians and police. We need strict punishment for rule-breakers along with further privatization of buses. Make it easier for private lines to buy a bus and run it on the screen. Moreover every bus should have a BIG visible board in the front and back of the vehicle saying the number of people this vehicle has killed and the number of accidents this has been involved in.
