Blogger Solid man eqautes Caste with Hinduism.. a) There needs a correction with this perception. There was seggregation and aparthied in Western world. Nobody called it as a problem in Christianity. There is not a single Hindu scripture which desribes Caste. Caste was/is a living system used to control distribute resources and nothing to do with Hinduism..
b) Solid man tries to equate Madarssas with RSS. RSS never ever teaches hating other religions. If that was the case Sonia/Sharukh and Shabana would have been killed long back.. RSS envisions Hindu Rashtra. It considers Hinduism as a way of life not a imposition on other religions.. By defination Hinduism the only official Secular and scientific religion. I think corner them over the century and challenging their existence has made some faction of it violent. To every action there always equal but opposite reaction..
Lastly, the Muslims in India should know that they have one thing in their favour because of Hindus which they don't in Pakistan. The Indian Supreme Court which DOES NOT FOLLOW SHARIA LAW. So Muslims have dual advantage. They have their Sharia Law but if their dispute is not resolved they can use Indian Supreme court.
RE:Reply to mis-conception by blogger ''Solid man''
by OpenEyes on Nov 04, 2007 06:30 PM Permalink
The difference between India SC and Sharia is, SC can adapt and change based on critical logical thinking while Sharia is based on an old book in which the facts are forzen in very very old times. Also nobody can challenge Sharia 'Cos they would naturally be killed. So evolution of Sharia takes time.
Finally, for Moderate Educated muslims, they should understand that Hindus don't care nor hate Muslims if Muslims can make India ABOVE THEIR RELIGION. Sharukh can make money on Chak De but he uses Sharia for his Civil disputes then he is not useful for muslima nor for India.
I DON'T WANT ANY LAW BASED ON ANY, REPEATE ANY RELIGION IN INDIA. THE LAWS HAVE TO BE EQUAL AND JUSTFUL AND BASED ON 21'ST CENTURY HUMAN RIGHTS.
RE:Reply to mis-conception by blogger ''Solid man''
by GN on Nov 04, 2007 06:41 PM Permalink
Good one. I agree with you. India above all religion. and Indian law above all laws.
RE:Reply to mis-conception by blogger ''Solid man''
by Solid Man on Nov 04, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
MY dear friend OpenEyes... if you would like me to quote you from your religious scriptures i can give you the quotaion for caste system in india....if what ur telling is true why not you solve the problem of dalits by making them all brahmans??? if not there in religion why to follow it.>>>>>>> first questioned replied
RSS is formed on the basis of religious hatered if it is not based on hatered then why do they teach civilians how to fight and make boms???? if i can show you clips from youtube that these RSS leaders teach hatered with other religions what will u do?? in madarsas islamic knowledge is given and ppl are taught good manners u will never see in any madarsas lati chalana bom banana ..this is exclusively owned by RSS & VHP by the way shabana azmi and sharukh khan they have nothing to do with islam as they dont follow any religion...
I dont have any problem with justice system in india but i have concerns over its late and biased implementation
RE:Reply to mis-conception by blogger ''Solid man''
by QandA on Nov 04, 2007 07:14 PM Permalink
Trust me dude if RSS was as racist as the Madarssas then there is no question of any concept of India.. In India for the sake of votes Islam has become a superior religion and Hindus have become second class citizens. Haj subsidies for Muslims, you don't need RSS to create hatred this is enough..
Also separate laws for muslims but using of resources is common.. How can U have a single country with multiple laws... RSS will vanishe if Muslims evolve to the point that they talk about India.
Can you share us what "baised implementations" has been done by Supreme COurt. Do you think that its not your Supreme Court. If you have problems why don't you talk about fixing it. But how can you do that 'Cos an average Muslims thinks that Supreme Court is A HINDU COOURT and all its implication are anti Islamic? Right..
I know what you mean by recent implications.. What's wrong with the SC if it says that all marriages should be registered in India. SEE THIS IS THE STATE OF SHARIA THAT IT DOES NOT EVEN REGISTER MARRIAGES WHICH IS A NORM FOR OTHER RELGIONS. HOW CAN THE SC TALK ABOUT DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES IN A DISPUT WHEN THE MARRIAGE ITSELF IS NOT LEGALLY REGISTERED..
RE:Reply to mis-conception by blogger ''Solid man''
by Solid Man on Nov 04, 2007 07:31 PM Permalink
my friend Qanda i dont understand what problem you guys have with muslims...you are telling that muslim have become first class citizens and hindus second class my friend indian muslims have gone more backward then dalits...if anything government tries to do for muslims then there is lot of fuss why this biased treatment...by the way how much haj subsidy muslims get u have any idea 13 crore its a big joke my friend we dont need huj subsidy, we want justice....sharia law is internal for muslims it doesnt bring any good to us we are not getting anything from indian government by this law its just a muslim way of life to follow things....and by the way even hindu have there own law internally...my friend plz for god's sake dont tell RSS is not racist and they are doing any good to hindus they are just political party who wants money and power in the name is religion......muslims always foloowed the supreme court's decison on every matter but the government is biased in implenting it if it is in favour of muslims....for example what happened to sri krishna commission why is it kept aised when eveyrthing came in light..i remember very well the news paper headlines YES BALTHAKEREY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THINGS BUT WHO WILL TAME THE TIGER??....do you call this law enforcement???...and for your information all the muslim marriages gets registered with indian law ..i dont know where u got all these crazy information from
RE:RE:Reply to mis-conception by blogger ''Solid man''
by GN on Nov 04, 2007 07:02 PM Permalink
Anybody who is spreading hatred for other religions should be condemned. Even if it is RSS
but i dont agree with you for the madarsas dont promote hatred. i can give you links which shows the it . Search the youtube with non muslim as search subejct
1.pakistan is in danger of getting forward n democratic i have pulled it back from becoming democracy. 2.Democracy is for kafirs not for momein,allah has offered dictatorship for pakistan he came to my dreams n told to implement emergency who am i to dnny his will? 3.This is allah's will that we muslims remain behind others, when the world is moving into 2008, i have tried my best to take pakistan into 1958.
i am waiting for allah's decree, ill report u when ever he dictates me ill dictates u,It took muhammed 25 years for copying the quran from torah opps sorry writing the scripts, it seems allah n muhammed is busy with 72 virgin goats.
All those trying to blame the muslims and Islam I have a simple question. How do you plan to convert 28% population of the world to another religion. By abuse? :-) If you have some better ideology to offer then go to those people and explain them your ideology. How are you going to make any difference by posting hate here ? In the time I needed to write this post 100 new muslims were born...how do you plan to convert people ? Islam has never seen mass conversions as hinduism. When people are leaving your religion in thousands how can you be worried about some other religion? Is like when your own house is on fire you are worried about the fire in the neighbours house. By 2020 Islam would be the most followed religion in the world. Every third person would be a muslim. Your children will be in touch with the muslims more than ever before...So to protect your ideology you have to work in your ranks. The more you get involved in hate mongering the more you leave your own house unprotected.... Those people who left hinduism to convert to Buddhism in front of national TV were not forced by any muslim to convert. These might just be the initial waves out of hinduism the biggest waves of conversion out of hinduism might be round the corner because the educated hindus are busy abusing muslims and people from their community are leaving hinduism from the backdoor to merge with buddhism.
RE:I have a simple question!!
by Rahul Gupta on Nov 04, 2007 06:33 PM Permalink
lets convert to ISLAM. no religion guarantees the pleasure of 72 virgins.
RE:I have a simple question!!
by VK AGRAWAL on Nov 04, 2007 06:33 PM Permalink
IT IS WRONG TO SAY THAT HINDUISM IS A RELIGON, NO IT IS A WAY OF LIFE. It doesn't matter who converts himself to budhism or to any other religon. HINDUISM IS ETERNAL AND EVERLASTING. Muslim invaders from Babar to Akbar and the rest came, ruled, looted India and forced conversons but Hunduism survived.There are more muslims in India than in Pakistan, how? Because of hindu tolerance.How come Dilip Kumar,SRK, Aamir Khan, Salman,Zahir Khan,Pataudi and many, many others are flourishing in India, why ? Because of HINDU TOLERANCE, it cannot happen in any other country of majority community tolerating the minority. Muslims of India should consider themselves lucky that they are respected and some even worshipped like I do Dilip Saheb from my childhood. If any body finds fault with him, I take on very forcefully simply because I have grown up watching and enjoying his movies.Never thought he is a muslim.
RE:I have a simple question!!
by RAJ KONA on Nov 04, 2007 07:12 PM Permalink
Religion is not a corporation and please dont treat it as such. The problem with some people (like you and others on this board) is that they treat other followers as religious property. It is not so. There is something called free will. All muslims are not the same and neither are all Hindus. Financial factors will govern things. The spread of Islam has a lot to do with oil in the middle east. Think about it. Why is Wahabism (the Saudi brand of Islam) most popular in poor countries. It is because Saudis spend all the money to spread it. The same with Hinduism. Hindu religious institutions and extremist organizations are supported by India and Indians living abroad. Christianity is supported by western capitalism. My theory is that if the economic support of any religion is taken away, it will either vanish or get close to disappearing. It is as simple as that. It has nothing to do with taking care of your ranks, just pure economics.
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RE:PAKISTAN IS WORLDCLASS AND WORLD APART
by Solid Man on Nov 04, 2007 06:25 PM Permalink
also u can avail this offer from any of our RSS camps in India
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by Rahul Gupta on Nov 04, 2007 06:09 PM Permalink
shamless piece of dirt. i dont want to stoop to your dirty level and start cursing your religion. Just stop it
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