Sameer your english is very bad.Please improve it Please !!!! Ok coming to our treaty i think we have made a smart move to counter China or else we will be left far behind
RE:Sameer Bhagwat poor English
by Anon on Aug 17, 2007 05:40 PM Permalink
Stan, who gives a sh1t whether someones English is good or bad as long as he gets his point across ? Read Shakespeare if you want good English.
RE:Sameer Bhagwat poor English
by on Aug 17, 2007 03:44 PM Permalink
Hey Stanley I agree with you. SAMEER SUCKS MANNNNNNNNN. He's the real terrorist lol.
precisely...zats why i fervently hope that our PM stands well advised by not white hat bearing bowed congressman...but by men of strategic vision.!!!!...also realize this fact that if US MNC's set massive subsidaries a lot of FDI flows in with it.SO one fine day we test and US ceases supply, US MNC's stand to lose as well...and in Billions. Being a huge market has its advantages!!. And the day US ceases supplies US MNC's can kiss their huge assets, fdi's and infrastructure here goodbye. Also realize the fact that russia has and was ready to supplu Uranium, it was the NPT which caused it to stop supplies. With the 123 deal if US starts russia is cleared to supply us as well!!and that may not stop even if US ceases cause they opened the door and there is no closing it. We r no longer aid seekers, we have a massive market and money as well!!...so USE and THROW
RE:US stops uranium supply!!!...they will lose plenty as well!!!!
by Mikkey Moouse on Aug 17, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
THIS IS INTERNATIONAL POLITICS, NOT LOCAL
ITS HIGHLY ADVISABLE THAT THE CONGRESS PARTY & THE BJJP PART JOINTLY PASS THE DEAL.
ALL COUNTRIES THAT ARE ALLIED WITH AMERICA ARE PROSPEROUS. EG. GERMANY, JAPAN, U.K. TAIWAN, SOUTH KOREA.
AMERICA IS ALL POWERFUL. THE E.U., JAPAN, TAIWAN & SOUTH KOREA FULLY SUPPORT THE USA. RUSSIA & CHINA KEEP QUIET AS THEIR FOREIGN INVESTMENT COMES FROM USA, E.U. & JAPAN.
ALL THOSE WHO TRIFLE WITH AMERCIA WILL BE FORCED TO INHABIT MUD-HUTS LIKE CUBA, SYRIA, LIBYA, SUDAN, SOMALIA, NORTH KOREA.
RE:RE:US stops uranium supply!!!...they will lose plenty as well!!!!
by on Aug 17, 2007 04:32 PM Permalink
Now that the nuclear deal has hoit a road block you are talking prosperity. Man you congress guys relly know how to divert the core issue.
The left is a barking dog by your side and BJP is a noise maker.
Mikkey mouse, Please understand that japanese want the US out of their country due to the amount of abuse the US soldiers do to their women. I agree with you that Japan is really prosperous but it is nt because of the US it is because of JAPAN on its own.
Please stop this chamcha giri. Ask us to stay out of the arab world.
RE:US stops uranium supply!!!...they will lose plenty as well!!!!
by Maverick on Aug 17, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
USE and THROW the US ..i meant!!!...lol
Recently Iran and North Korea were almost invaded by US for refusing to allow inspection of nuclear facilities, even though they are signatories of the NPT. What US will do if India explodes a nuclear device?
RE:Will US threaten India?
by Maverick on Aug 17, 2007 03:37 PM Permalink
u can forget that possibility coz that would be WWIII and we sure don't lack the means to crush such delusions if any country has any. Why did US not "invade" north korea coz they have black cylindrical sticks wth nuclear tips in other words ICBM's....so yeah nuclear defence is here to stay!!
RE:Will US threaten India?
by on Aug 17, 2007 04:38 PM Permalink
US is losing its unilateral might in the current multipolar world. Soon it will have its sons and daughters dying in huge numbers in some distant countries. This is beacuse of the multi polar facets in the current global scenario. It need more and morecountries with Nuclear kitty by it side. In asia it has a huge opponent - China. In europe and Asia - RUssia is challenging USA'a unilateral might.
Looks lke it requires India's help very badly.
Looks like our Political people are messing things up rather badly.
This deal needs to be clearly ratified and rechecked by all before bing fully done.
Hope our PM and hs subordinates are clear of things before they speak in the parliament SM
No bodies is know who truth is and god alone know it it is. We is bing chited it is and some times tiers is come doeses in my eyes after see the condishun of my cuntry peopals. The India goverment should print and show to the pablik what is 123 agriment it is. PLIS SAPORT DOES ME MY DEAREST FRENDS PLIS PLIS PLIS SAVE CUNTRY OF US.
RE:PLIS IGNORE MY ENGLISH AND READ YOU ALL
by on Aug 17, 2007 03:36 PM Permalink
Abey a phatichar.Why on earth are you torturing us man? THIS FELLOW SAMEER IS A TERRORIST. I HAVE NIGHTMARES OF HIS ENGLISH.
Well it is India's right to test. All can understand that. There is a total silence of what the consequances may be. Can someone shed some light on this???
IT DOESNT TAKE AWAY ANY RIGHTS. IF YOU TEST, SIMPLY RETURN THE URANIUM AND GET CASH BACK AT THE MARKET RATES. HOWEVER NO ONE TESTS NOW, ONLY SUPERCOMPUTERS ARE USED.
Come on Dr.Kakodkar.I had great regard for and expectations from you.But,alas,you have not lived up to them.After catapulting to the US's charms,now it is understandably your lot to defend the flawed and pokered deal.You could have told the PM and his henchmen in no uncertain terms that you would not sit on the negotiating table where the epitaph of the Indian nuke research program would be drafted. Instead you not only acquiesced,but have also pitched yourselves into the arena to defend it. Can you honestly answer the following?1.Can India continue to do advanced nuke research such as Fast Breeder reactor development and thorium cycle reasearch without hindrance after the Deal comes into full force?2.Can you build exclusive plant for the spent US fuel reprocessing and still keep your technology secret?3.Can you prevent the US and its allies from infiltrating your research labs and spiriting away your best brains?4.Having succeeded in FB technology,could you and your colleagues not have reworked the 3-phase nuke development plan?5.Did you not have sufficient faith in your organisation's ability to offer to build 3 or 4 FB reactors simultaneously to cut short phase-II and jump-start thorium cycle instead of make the country labour through the natural uranium processes?6.Could you not have summoned up the conscience of the entire nuke-tech community to commit to the nation the most advanced nuke power technology if left free without the 123-Deal? Can I hope for your answers?
RE:Naivity cannot be an escape route!
by Vinay Singh on Aug 17, 2007 03:37 PM Permalink
Please throw some more light on your questions. As far as I understand it there is nothing in the deal that restricts what you asked. The deal can be terminated with 1 year notice from either party. And anyway, all that you said has no meaning if we don't test our nuclear weapons. And if we do conduct any test there will be sanctions anyway. So I didn't understand your problem. The only problem that I see is once we start depending upon foreign supplies for our daily energy needs then it would be difficult to annoy the US. Looking forward for your reply.
RE:Naivity cannot be an escape route!
by sir on Aug 17, 2007 03:36 PM Permalink
Dr.Kakodkar-we feel sad of you-the money spent on you not to just sit and eat-if you have to make you turn - from agreement signed-if you test-why do you sign such agrement-we feel shame of you-and pity how you have been purchases-you stupid-
RE:RE:news
by sir on Aug 17, 2007 03:37 PM Permalink
Dr.Kakodkar-we feel sad of you-the money spent on you not to just sit and eat-if you have to make you turn - from agreement signed-if you test-why do you sign such agrement-we feel shame of you-and pity how you have been purchased-you stupid-
To know why Left is opposing 123 deal, you have to go beyond what Newspapers or these Political people say.
US and India both acknowledge the threat of having hostile Pakistan and Strong China as Inda's neighbour.For obvious and other interests of US, It want to empower India to be able to keep check on both these countries. Nuclear power for peacefull purposes is totally shit thing. US is giving this name to resist opposition from its own people and world oppositon. China is totally aware of the situation and anybody who knows these Left parties can imaginge that China is thus bribing Left to oppose this deal so that this agreement is not signed. Left leaders are known traitors. Even if their doubts are true than what will happen if India conduct nuclear test and then who will stop them. At that time worst or worst US will withdraw their support and levey some penalties whcih will even in that case will be equal to today's situaiton and therefore India only stands to win in any siutuation after signing this agreement. Hope COngress Strategists are listening this argument!!!
RE:Left Opposiiton to 123 Agreement
by Ranjit Ahluwalia on Aug 17, 2007 03:23 PM Permalink
Dear Mr. Idiot,
Please learn to think broadlly. Is India interested in getting power or only supervision. What the empty reactors has to supervise of it & please learn to be polite on Public PLatforms. May be you are leftist (A traitor) why this is bothering you this much. Samjhe Gaddar
RE:Left Opposiiton to 123 Agreement
by sir on Aug 17, 2007 03:38 PM Permalink
Dr.Kakodkar-we feel sad of you-the money spent on you not to just sit and eat-if you have to make you turn - from agreement signed-if you test-why do you sign such agrement-we feel shame of you-and pity how you have been purchases-you stupid-
RE:Left Opposiiton to 123 Agreement
by tathya on Aug 17, 2007 03:38 PM Permalink
And also cost man..They( all critics of deal rightly or wrongly) are estimating cost to be in tune of lakhs of crores if the deal is off.Read t'days deccan chronicle or Asian age. And man if US really wants to help as Ranjit above is saying(resist opposition from its own people and world oppositon etc etc..)then let them help us openly without hidden clauses of HYde act etc.
India should utilize the deal if feasible as a temporary option whilst we devolop our uranium and Pu enrichment process. We have a huge stock of monazite sands but lack the process to convert this into weapon grade Pu. Use US to gain all these and temp energy security. Once we r at that point, chuck US and the 123 deal into the bin of history. Use em..use the americans hard and chuck em when the time comes. We don't need a US or a small blip like australia conducting our nuclear policy. Hope mr singh has not messed up all this with his meekness. A london school of economics degree doesn't essentially make u smart in strategy. Hope our PM stands well advised by knowledgeable ones..
RE:USE AND THROW: US of A
by MP on Aug 17, 2007 03:21 PM Permalink
My Dear,
Your idea seems interesting and tempting in the first place. But if we think deeper(the American Way), we can see that in return of this CONDITIONAL N-deal, American is intending to SUCK our wealth.
Once this deal is passed, American co.'s will line up to SELL nuclear tech and spare parts - Cost - Billions of $s
Again, in the name of COOPERATION and Financial Open Markets, they will gain approval from this Congress Govt to enter our markets in Retail, Finance, Banking, Law, Research, and every thing.
But out of this, RETAIL MARKET is what they are eyeing. Reason, America gets 99% of its goods consumed produced in China. Our Country does not have any stringent policy in terms of quality of goods imported. Hence, US will dump all that goods that is rejected in US market into India and sell them at high prices under is MNC brands.
Who will lose? India. This will create mass unemployment in our manufacturing market. If not a labour price war is certain.
Again, we are buying this N-Technology to fuel our industrial growth. But once these MNCs enter our country, there would be very few industries left to utilise this electricity.
Again, when India does a N-Test, America will withdraw its support, and technology. Leaving vast energy gap (hopefully a short term - taking into consideration that India would have developed its own n-tech). But in this time, there would be accute shortage of goods and will increase inflation over night
RE:USE AND THROW: US of A
by Maverick on Aug 17, 2007 03:30 PM Permalink
precisely...zats why i fervently hope that our PM stands well advised by not white hat bearing bowed congressman...but by men of strategic vision.!!!!...also realize this fact that if US MNC's set massive subsidaries a lot of FDI flows in with it.SO one fine day we test and US ceases supply, US MNC's stand to lose as well...and in Billions. Being a huge market has its advantages!!. And the day US ceases supplies US MNC's can kiss their huge assets, fdi's and infrastructure here goodbye. Also realize the fact that russia has and was ready to supplu Uranium, it was the NPT which caused it to stop supplies. With the 123 deal if US starts russia is cleared to supply us as well!!and that may not stop even if US ceases cause they opened the door and there is no closing it. We r no longer aid seekers, we have a massive market and money as well!!...so USE and THROW
RE:RE:USE AND THROW: US of A
by sir on Aug 17, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
Dr.Kakodkar-we feel sad of you-the money spent on you not to just sit and eat-if you have to make you turn - from agreement signed-if you test-why do you sign such agrement-we feel shame of you-and pity how you have been purchases-you stupid-
RE:RE:USE AND THROW: US of A
by crazy on Aug 17, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
Exactly....let US change the rules of the game for us. Then there will be no stopping even if we do the Nuclear Test!
RE:disgusting
by Sharvan Bhatti on Aug 17, 2007 03:29 PM Permalink
This is not a matter of BJP or Cong, this is a mtter of development, for which we need power and N-power s only cheap source, we spent 30-40 years for testing a N-Bomb, if we go for indipendent energy source then it will take another 40-60 years, so why can't grab the source from others?. Politicians may have their own game but a common man should think the right thing.
RE:disgusting
by vinay thakur on Aug 17, 2007 03:56 PM Permalink
Mankind took 50000yrs to develop engine.But in less than 200 yrs they reached outer space and Moon.So your statement that we will take 40-60yrs to develop thorium reactors is not true.India infact is very close to acheive that techn.Thats why USA is so desperate to sell this agreement which will divert attention or fully stop the research & development programe in nuclear field.Now we have more cash than ever as balance.so why it will take another 30-40yrs like we took for N-Explosion!!
RE:disgusting
by Sharvan Bhatti on Aug 17, 2007 04:47 PM Permalink
no sir, n-deal is not restricted for research and development which you please note, our weapon and reactor project will go on as usual that's why separated few n-facilities for research work. Whenever we feel that N-deal with US is a waste then just throw it out that's all till then why can't use its essence?... 70 to 80% of Indian people belive N-deal with US is a great achievement.
RE:RE:disgusting
by sir on Aug 17, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
Dr.Kakodkar-we feel sad of you-the money spent on you not to just sit and eat-if you have to make you turn - from agreement signed-if you test-why do you sign such agrement-we feel shame of you-and pity how you have been purchases-you stupid-
RE:disgusting
by Vishwanathan vishu on Aug 17, 2007 03:13 PM Permalink
Being a hindu does not mean to vote for bullshit BJP. This BJP are the people who change faces. Praises Jinnah according to the need when time demanded could not take decision.
RE:disgusting
by sir on Aug 17, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
Dr.Kakodkar-we feel sad of you-the money spent on you not to just sit and eat-if you have to make you turn - from agreement signed-if you test-why do you sign such agrement-we feel shame of you-and pity how you have been purchases-you stupid-
RE:disgusting
by b kanvalli on Aug 17, 2007 03:27 PM Permalink
Well this is also true..BJP changes its faces at any time.. but one this true guys, all in all we Hindus need a party that will protect our interests in our own country. "Apne hi ghar mein hum paraye ho gaye hain"
RE:disgusting
by crazy on Aug 17, 2007 03:50 PM Permalink
What is the problem you guys have with Sonia Gandhi. She married Indian... she has Indian nationality.. she is Indian. She was elected in free and fair elections by Indian citizens. I think the most capable person should rule India. Skin or anything else doesnt matter.
RE:RE:disgusting
by on Aug 19, 2007 08:59 PM Permalink
The problem is west is so crooked. The history is abundant with proofs. So what if I propose a posibility. 1) CIA/west/vatican/roam_empire wanted to take care of India's future. Naturally with gandhi sequence, it is very clear that Rajeev-gandhi is the best target(we studies in west). So they arranged a middle class Antonio to tackle him. It is obvious even then that India's future would be through progenies of Rajeev. So they implanted a Big sweet Mole in Gandhi family. See that very recently India is more frequently visited by portugal and Italian PMs. The west dont want an alternate culture, they cant trust it. They can trust singapore, Philipines, Brazil etc which is made as their clones. Offcourse they dont trust muslims. But with muslims, conversion wont work. West solution for them is to use them against them and use others like India against muslims.
Now see, Sonias daughter is married to another christian. I have nothing against Christians if it is not a CIA/west plot. But history of Invasion by Spaniards etc make me suspicious.
Now her son Rahul is in bed with a colombian girl. So her progenies would be guiding indias future.
So future of India would be a tussle between, West(USA the extenssion of roman empire and vatican), Muslims (no brains, but as now they are 27%, commies and sonias use them), Commies (the true sons of chinese emperor) and finally foolish fundamental hindus who are divided in caste bull-shit. Good Indians of all religion suffers at the end
