RE:people who are now in jail, for rape, murder, grand theft/dacoity/loot:
by khaleel nazeer on Jun 22, 2008 11:52 AM Permalink
Dear, is there any sense in your reply. Are you a responsible citizen of a country. Due to have any statistics or any ref. for saying so. Common, use ur senses & act responsibily
RE:people who are now in jail, for rape, murder, grand theft/dacoity/loot:
by khalid raza on Jun 22, 2008 09:22 AM Permalink
but the above mentioned all the killers are from so called hindu religion....
RE:people who are now in jail, for rape, murder, grand theft/dacoity/loot:
by Rajendra Rao on Jun 22, 2008 08:16 PM Permalink
If you think according to Quron, it is just fine for Mooselems to rape, kill or steal from kafirs (non-mooselems), then you can understand why Mooselems are # 1 terrorists and thugs, bombers in the world. In USA, many in jails are converting to Islam because then they feel fine to continue rob and rape and kill others.
My dear moslems- visit faithoffreedomdotcon (put a '.' rather than dot), and read why so many are leaving Islam. Because it is cult, not a religion, same as xtanity.
RE:RE:people who are now in jail, for rape, murder, grand theft/dacoity/loot:
by khaleel ahmed nazeer on Jun 23, 2008 11:42 AM Permalink
Dear, do read fiction books like that of Salman Rushdie, you will never know the truth. No real muslim can Rape, steal or kill anybody. By name u will not become muslim. U become muslim by deeds. Just if you have muslim name u r not muslim. U have to follow the guidelines. Quran says in 5:32 , If any one kill anyone unless for murder or creating mischief in the land, he has killed the whole humanity. If any one saves a human life, he has saved the whole humanity. These are the teachings of Islam.
RE:RE:RE:RE:people who are now in jail, for rape, murder, grand theft/dacoity/loot:
by Eric Chhapgar on Jun 28, 2008 04:57 PM Permalink
I think tomorrow Rediff will write an article about "How to bake a cake" and you guys will still somehow bring Hindu-Muslim issue to this.
Are you guys for real or is this just acts of mischief carried out by a few miscreants who sole aim is to continue to incite and encourage disharmony and hatred amongst people of this country?
Does anyone really believe that by constantly attacking each others religious beliefs and principles of religion, that person will be admired and considered to be a pious and god fearing person?
NO! The only thing such a person will achieve is to prove that they are fanatic bigots who have have a basic lack of morals. These persons insult their own religion and upbringing.
Respecting humanity is a prerequisite for any person who wishes to call himself a God loving person.
RE:people who are now in jail, for rape, murder, grand theft/dacoity/loot:
by purnav on Jun 22, 2008 12:48 PM Permalink
Muslims are committing criminal activities in India and bringing bad name to hindus
why do we forget to add Malnutrition and disease deaths? Floods and storms? Droughts? Also, on the counterargument, deaths in US by road accidents? Murder is very bad obviously, but deaths in other forms are equally devastating. And when they can be prevented, if they are not, that is a mistake. India is a hidden anarchy. So are many "democratic" countries. US is a hidden monarchy, with radical powers in the hands of the few rulers.
Pl do consider: "Democracy in hands of Indians has been like razor in monkey's hands." Only solution in a legal way is that all the educated & right thinkinking people ensure that they do vote, that they vote as per their conscious and that they vote at each available opportunity - otherwise it is our children and the comming generations that are going to suffer - by that time it may be too late: and the history shall hold us accountable - our forefathers gave us a well meaning Constitution, but we are making the worst use of it. History does repeat itself and our history has been full of fights, infights and of irrational ways of managing our affairs. Mera Bharat is Not Mahan. Whose Bharat is Mahan? It needs pondering. Remedy lies in getting the answer to it. If the new generation of India is educated, rational and enlightened, it has to participate in nation building - and the foremost step in that direction is that they ensure that their names appear in voters' lists and that they do cast their votes in favour of a government of their choice. This will bring a TRANSFORMATION - within no time.
RE:India that is Bharat
by sibby mathews on Jun 22, 2008 12:33 AM Permalink
Hello Mr. Srivastava
Well, it may not be enough if educated people just vote. They too have shown in ample measure that they tolerate corruption just like their lesser educated fellow countrymen.
The very mindset of the commoner towards corruption ought to change - from lukewarm concern or even indifference to acute sensitiveness and intolerance. The commoner ought to understand with conviction that nothing else is remotely as important as making and keeping those in authority always accountable for his well being, for preserving the vitality of society and for securing the common man's future in this country.
History has real and innumerable examples that show that it is the commoner who suffers the most and for the longest period whenever there is societal decay or a political convulsion or anarchy of any kind. It would be naive to imagine that we have emerged into a kind of post historical phase where the lessons of history will not matter.
the whole article is based on an outside agencies judgement on the situation , in fact the heading of the article itself is wrong
INDIA is not a CAPITAL its a NATION whose Capital is DELHI !
What we have is Common with other countries on the list is rampant CORRUPTION at every level, Fast EXPLODING economies and searing POVERTY with equally corrupt politicians and government ....
RE:INDIA is a NATION not CAPITAL !
by Tarun vats on Jun 22, 2008 12:08 AM Permalink
Well I agree with you that this is an outside survey as they do not know about our resources or our workings and Perhaps In International political way, they do not want India to come out on the top due to its growing economy but there is something which we cant reject i.e we need some good bureaucracy and Good law&order system which take tough steps to maintain calm and peaceful environment in every condition( I am not comparing it with China's system Which seems to be growing faster than Us but believe me there have become groups of societies which handle their disputes and Due to their system they even cant register so better than that situation we are in)
RE:RE:INDIA is a NATION not CAPITAL !
by Annu Malik on Jun 22, 2008 12:18 AM Permalink
Dont be a clown, forgotten Noida and countless murder cases and criminals are roaming scott free ? and this is so called capital of India !
4000 people die in mumbai trains evfery year, 1 lakh die in road accidents , the highest rate in the world. 50 times higher rate more than china, apparently it is more indians who are dying in a pathetic corrupt system not others.
RE:wrong
by Annu Malik on Jun 21, 2008 11:22 PM Permalink
It is INDIA which is the most corrupt contry in the world not rest of the world, so naturally only a fraction of murders are actually registered, No need to be happy like a FOOL.
Because ultimtely Indians do love to get the hell out of India see the lines in the embassies , everyone wants to escape.
RE:wrong
by Tarun vats on Jun 22, 2008 12:02 AM Permalink
Well It seems the This MR. Annu malik is so frustrated with his country that he has forgot the statistical data which he relies upon.He might want to set in developed countries well he can but still he will called there an Indian as Take example of Jhumpa Lahiri. She teached in Boston university and has American Citizen ship but they still call her Indian not native American so Mr you cant pull this country tag out of you bag completely. This might increase you frustrations more but this is reality..
This is a lop-sided view cooked up to bag headlines. Mere number of murders per annum is meaningless. One must consider the total population of the country into account. For example, if there are 100 people in a country and the number of murders per annum is 75, the figure is definitely worse than in a country of 100,000 in which the number of murders per annum is say 200. I am sure India's murder rate as a function of its population is lower than in may so-called respectable developed countries.
RE:India is the murder capital of the world
by sibby mathews on Jun 22, 2008 12:05 AM Permalink
If, murder rate as a 'function of the population' is taken into account, many Indians ought to correct their stubborn viewpoint that China is a more violent society than India. China's name does not appear in the murder toppers' list while India's does. Barely hidden jealousy about the gigantic gap that has opened up between China and India in almost every sphere of human endeavour makes several Indians invent several things about the Chinese, lack of human dignity and freedom along with a violent regime being some of them. Yes, China may not be the ideal in terms of any of the above criteria. Yet, innumberable statistics about the human condition in the two countries make it very clear that the commoner is much better off in 'autocratic' China than in 'democratic' India !!!!
No use remembering to abuse China (a shining example - admittedly with a few blips - of how a backward nation ought to develop from bottom up and not from top down !) at every turn while conveniently pretending to forget it when embarassing proof arrives about it's ascendancy in almost every field !!
RE:India is the murder capital of the world
by Hirendra Chatterjee on Jun 22, 2008 02:17 PM Permalink
You are a gullible victim of Chinese propaganda. China is a totalitarian society and the authorities will never permit any negative remarks about their country in the media. As for violence, the violence in Tibet should serve as ample evidence of the "peaceful" intentions of the powers that be in China. Your problem is you must hate India at all costs. If there is no apparent reason, you will go ahead and create one just to spite India. It could be because you are a Christian?
RE:India is the murder capital of the world
by sibby mathews on Jun 25, 2008 10:58 PM Permalink
You are quite an oaf, ain't you ? Cant think beyond the conditioning you have received in childhood about 'HINDU' 'MUSLIM' 'CHRISTIAN'...
If it can penetrate your thick skull, let me hopefully try to make you understand that Indians in general (and South Indians in particular) tend to identify more with their linguistic group than their religious group. For eg., a malayali nair would rather identify himself with a malayali christian than with a telugu hindu or a malayali christian would be more comfortable with a malayali hindu than with a goan christian. This is a basic truth for most people and there is little use in you being ignorant about it or trying to pretend that such a state of affairs does not exist.
If north India lags by light years in almost every criteria of human development (and I am not saying that the south has become fully developed in this regard, only that the north is far, far worse), part of the reason is that it's commoner idiots are easily fooled by vested interests into thinking that the dumbed down version of 'religion' and 'religious identity' that they offer the former are what they should deify as the ideal and the commoner's woefully shrivelled up brain that will not allow them to see anything beyond.
One fine testimony to whatever I have said above is the nature of your question referring to my religious identity. I had written about the giant gap existing between China and India and all you could remember was my Christian name !!!
RE:India is the murder capital of the world
by Eric Chhapgar on Jun 28, 2008 06:29 PM Permalink
Mr Mathews, assuming you are right, can you think for a moment about what makes other countries better then India?
Its because their countrymen are more patriotic and very defensive about their country. Where as some Indians like you are ever ready to point out the negative issues about our country. Remember that because we are a democracy you today are able to stand up and criticize. In most other countries you might have faced being behind bars or even worse.
I agree that one should not be blind to ones country's faults. But tell me which country is perfect?
Despite all our shortcomings, despite all the corruption, despite the high level of poverty one has to appreciate that we have grown in our 61 years of independence. Yes, one wishes that we could have accomplished for more then we have. But is it ok to always be so ever ready to knock down and trash everything we have accomplished? The fact that today you are able to put forth your arguments so eloquently is a testament to the progress our country has made in education amongst other fields.
Yes, you have the right as everyone else has in a democratic society to highlight the problems. But along with the rights you also need to remember that you have a responsibility to be a part of the solution.
I personally deplore our mentality of always bringing religious and state issues and am glad that you feel the same way. However dont tell me that this is unique to India only. In USA we have race issues too.
RE:India is the murder capital of the world
by Annu Malik on Jun 21, 2008 11:04 PM Permalink
Only 10% of crimes are registered in India. Remebrer Noida case ? that butcher killed 36 kids and for six month, police wont register crime !
If this is the condition of the so called national capital region, what say about interiors ? Your developed countries are less corrupt than India.
RE:RE:India is the murder capital of the world
by Hirendra Chatterjee on Jun 21, 2008 11:19 PM Permalink
Only 10 % crimes are registered in India but 100% crimes are registered in the rest of the world. How can you assume that. I think we should be less cynical. We should be proud of our achievements and not allow frivolous and meaningless statistics to tarnish the image of our country. Of course there will always be people who love to hate their country.
RE:India is the murder capital of the world
by Annu Malik on Jun 21, 2008 11:23 PM Permalink
what image you are talking about ? I was in china and image is that of a begger garbage country. i swear.
RE:India is the murder capital of the world
by Hirendra Chatterjee on Jun 21, 2008 11:48 PM Permalink
Why don't you go and settle in China then? What the hell are you doing in a country of beggars. Have some self-respect. You are quite comfortable with China where there is a totalitarian system and news about murders and torture is not even published. With people like you around India does not need any enemies.
RE:India is the murder capital of the world
by Tarun vats on Jun 22, 2008 12:24 AM Permalink
For your kind information Mr. Annu malik, India is not even in top 10 corrupt countries in the world.According to the 2007 Global Corruption Barometer, the countries with the highest level of bribery are — Albania, Cambodia, Cameroon, Macedonia, Kosovo, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Romania and Senegal. Still I agree with you on one point that police dont register all the cases as It was pointed out by many of highly qualified and even some officers from Police department itself. And even According to FORBES ( your favorite developed country's surveyor ) India managed to drag itself out of truly Corrupt group in the world.
dis is nothing else bt d consequence of inflation & unemployment. d best way of taking out frustation is through violence n dis will unfortunately only get from bad to worse for india.its only a matter of time b4 india is there at the top of the charts for crime. aprroximately 35% inflation n employment increasing by the day , the matters are only going to get worse for india,all thnx to the govt that has demolished the country in the past 5 yrs. AND OH YES, I FORGOT, INDIA IS SHINNING!!!!lol
RE:Murder Capital
by Eric Chhapgar on Jun 28, 2008 05:13 PM Permalink
So Mr Joseph are you planning to renounce your Indian citizenship?
Please dont be so naive and gullible.
Rather than appreciating the authors of this article and accepting their report so readily why don't you ask them as to how they arrived with such a dubious distinction.
I agree that we as a country have problems. But compare it to the other countries in the African continent, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Korea and even USA and you will find that our country is better in many ways.
What we suffer from is poverty caused by population, lack of education, clinging to superstition and people who are ready to denounce their country rather then finding what role they will play to resolve the problems.
Please consider what I have said calmly. My intention is not to insult you but rather to make you think!
