Seeing how SriLanka Played on Wednesday we can not take them for Granted.India will have a tough task to beat them.But beat them we must if we want to come in Super 8.All the best India We pray for u.Do not let us down.
RE:Indian Team Should be For Next Match
by b karthik on Mar 22, 2007 09:52 AM Permalink
dravid is the captain how can u remove him acc to the situation
RE:RE:Indian Team Should be For Next Match
by Truth on Mar 22, 2007 10:05 AM Permalink
i hadn't removed him. total count is 11 including pathan and dravid. if run rate is high then they should send pathan and if we loose wicket early then send Dravid
Bangladesh lost with a solid margin. If India Beats SL with Narrow Margin. Still Bangladesh Cannot reach to second round because their run rate is -2.002. SO Let's hope that India should beat S.L and reaches to second round with 2 points.
LEADER ARTICLE: The Desi Fan Mukul Kesavan The subcontinental cricket fan is a lazy, pampered know-nothing who thinks he owns the cricket teams that he supports.
His sense of proprietorship is so developed that when his team loses, he speaks (or writes) of being betrayed without a tremor of self-consciousness.
He is never disappointed, he's always 'let down'by the inadequate, time-serving, overpaid villains who represent him and his nation.
The vandals who attacked Mahendra Singh Dhoni's house in Ranchi are stock characters in Indian cricket's absurd dramas, clones of the men who did the same to Mohammad Kaif's house the last time round in South Africa.
Kaif's fault was the same as Dhoni's: being part of a losing Indian team. How do these lunatics justify their actions to themselves?
Most people recognise that a sense of entitlement has to be based upon some sort of contract, written or otherwise.
If a statutory body like the Election Commission is shown to be partisan or a committee entrusted with the purchase of munitions turns out to be corrupt, or a cricketer takes a bribe from a bookie and underperforms, in all these cases there is a genuine breach of trust because these are public figures who have been dishonest.
As cricket fans it's reasonable for us to feel frustrated and annoyed by incompetence but even chronic incompetence doesn't warrant a reaction as disproportionate as betrayal.
Think of the Barmy Army. Here's a contingent of fat English fans who spend weeks, even months of their lives following the English team around, just to cheer their players on.
In between watching cricket they get some sun, sand and sea in, but they're there for their team at considerable cost to themselves.
England loses more often than it wins, but i don't notice this caravan of supporters killing themselves or threatening to kill their champions.
Why are they different from desi couch potatoes who never leave their rooms, never exert themselves except to find their remote controls and yet treat every Indian defeat as a conspiracy against the Nation Recumbent?
They're different because India is a nation of losers: its teams win at nothing but cricket. Two, because cricket fans from outside the subcontinent have generally played some outdoor sport, they have some practical experience of how difficult competitive sport is.
If you've never played cricket and if the reason you watch it is because it's on television, your expectations are radically different.
You're a voyeur: the sort of person who watches other people do it. It is a 'virtual'condition, unmediated by experience or empathy.
In India because cricket fans form such a large segment of both the market and the electorate, the state and the private sector both pander to the fan's sense of entitlement.
The Supreme Court, despite its enormous backlog of cases, took the time to rule that private television companies with exclusive rights to telecast matches involving India would have to share their feed with Doordarshan because it was in the 'public interest'to telecast international matches that featured India, free to air.
As a newspaper said at the time: "...There is no doubt that millions of people in India take a tremendous interest in cricket matches... However, logic will have to be stretched if this is to be taken to mean that telecast of cricket matches involves the 'public interest'...".
This sort of endorsement by the Supreme Court persuades the Indian fan that the team exists to service his need for a happy ending, that he is the source of the team's legitimacy, that India's internationals are accountable to him.
Multinational companies with colas to sell reinforce the same message. One cola company has a campaign which makes great play with the theme of the Blue Billion, suggesting that the team is sprung in some mystical way from the great multitudes of India, or at least its cola-swilling millions.
A commercial in this campaign is funny without meaning to be. It cuts from our cricketing heroes to a shot of tigers padding around the ground: Dravid and Co turned into India's all-conquering national animal.
After being destroyed by Mortaza and Co, though, the commercial seems to embody Bangladesh more than India: the Indian team swallowed whole by Bengal's tigers. So much for symbolism.
Two days ago a Pakistani cricket blog was inundated with comments demanding an apology from the team to the Pakistani people because Pakistan had gone and lost to lowly Ireland.
One charmer called on Inzamam to "...get lost before we sacrifice you in the name of God like we do on Eid-ul-Azha...".
Well, he got his human sacrifice the next day even if it was the coach, Bob Woolmer, and not the captain who died. The violence of this fan's rhetoric wasn't exceptional.
Even Woolmer's tragic death is unlikely to shock subcontinental fans into acknowledging that to go on the way they do is to be sick in the head.
So, perhaps it's a good thing that Pakistan didn't make it to the Super Eights. Maybe India should fall by the wayside too.
At least the crazed fans who attack homes and ask for their captain's head will be forced to spend their waking hours doing something else.
They might take a break from spectatorship and actually play something. Even marbles would do: it would teach them that failure isn't a synonym for betrayal.
RE:Desi fans who owns TEAM INDIA
by melvin dass on Mar 22, 2007 09:50 AM Permalink
Blah, Blah, Blah and whatsmore a Blah again...Common guys enough of it now...guess its time to get over it..Peace...
RE:RE:Desi fans who owns TEAM INDIA
by Wilson Wilson on Mar 22, 2007 09:58 AM Permalink
Could anyone read it ful. and can someone explain the contents of the novel in brief please?!
RE:Desi fans who owns TEAM INDIA
by Subramanian K on Mar 22, 2007 09:22 AM Permalink
'The writer is a novelist'...........need not be specially mentioned. It is evident from the post itself.
RE:Desi fans who owns TEAM INDIA
by Shyam Kundu on Mar 22, 2007 10:07 AM Permalink
This message is an eye opener for many of us who fails almost in every game of their own life but expects team India to win all.
RE:Desi fans who owns TEAM INDIA
by Savita Kulkarni on Mar 22, 2007 10:06 AM Permalink
very well written. i do agree with you. i think indian fans behave as if they are paying the players without understanding that the team is going to loose sometime - not because we are bad but there are better teams than us! i really feel sad for the players and i hope indian fans 'grow' and behave like adults!
Srilanka has done India a great favour by beating Bangladesh very comprehensively. Now India needs to beat Srilanka (even by thinnest of margins) and that will ensure India reaches Super 8 as B2 in the group but with 2 points.....
RE:WC 07
by Amar S on Mar 22, 2007 09:42 AM Permalink
ponting is playing his last match... probably sachin n ganguly too.. lol all will be man of the match n series ??? lol..... many many legend players playing their last world cup.. man stop being funny... jayasuriya playes stupid.. many of his catchs were dropped.. n also he got injured to short pitch ball that ball was easily playable for ponting n his guy... jayasuriya is nowhere man of the series !
RE:RE:WC 07
by Wilson Wilson on Mar 22, 2007 10:09 AM Permalink
The assesment on Ganguly by sdt and truth are right. As long as dravid preferest to play with ganguly, india tend to loose only. bcos he is playing negative cricket. Dravid should be bold enough to tell Guguly to play for the team otherwise to sit out. probebly he would spoil the other team members also. He seems to be a rotten egg in the bascket. His attitude was not right. He does not even encourage others and could not mingle with the team well. I think selectors made a big mistake trusting ganguly. If ganguly is replaced with karthik or irfan india will definitely win. After all if at all he can contribute only thro bat and a useless fielder. he can boost of bowling only to domestic team under his captaincy. He is definitely spoiling the morale of the team. It is the more matters the application, dedication and sincerity of players than their skills. Dravid should be bold enough to take stern decision.
RE:WC 07
by srinivas reddy on Mar 22, 2007 09:12 AM Permalink
WC 07 winning team.....................india Man of the Match (Finals)...........ganguly Man of the Series..................ganguly
RE:RE:WC 07
by pankaj mahajan on Mar 22, 2007 09:57 AM Permalink
Absolutely right, Ganguly is the LOH PURUSH of Indian Cricket. He has leadership quality, now he is playing well. He is the real tiger. I wish he must be the man of the match in final and man of the series also.
RE:RE:WC 07
by Karuna Rajamanickam on Mar 22, 2007 10:04 AM Permalink
stop talking abt useless ganguly..india is more than kolkotta,i think we must have two team repesending india and kotkotta,then only we will have some breathing space from these ppl
RE:RE:WC 07
by pjrs on Mar 22, 2007 09:27 AM Permalink
Hi reddy,
Srilanka openers attacked the bowling of bangladesh and the bowlers then startes making mistakes. Then other other betsmen capitalised on it. Our indian opener Ganguly, who was in form, has not attacked the b'desh and created lot of pressure for the middle order.He has eaten lot of balls as he does in all the recent matches. That was the difeerence. Ganguly in my opinion can never win the match again for india. he can only improve his personal scores and remain in the team.
RE:RE:RE:WC 07
by Truth on Mar 22, 2007 09:40 AM Permalink
Ganguly is playing for his records in this WC. He doesn't want the things to be happened 1.5 Years before. He was uncomfortable against Bangladesh and even bermuda bowlers in starting. Whenever he looks that someone like Yuvraj in bangladesh match dominating the game then he started hitting. It is preplanned game by him. He wants that India loose WC under Dravid's Captaincy.
RE:Bermuda/Bang
by bal yana on Mar 22, 2007 09:16 AM Permalink
Don't dream abt Barmuda beat Bangla. Because they play last match & before that India should beat Srilanka in good margin.Then it is difficult to Bangla to beat Barmuda in in better run rate than India.
RE:RE:Bermuda/Bang
by bharat on Mar 22, 2007 09:38 AM Permalink
The match fixing is going on perfectly as planned. It is a win win situation for all.
Firstly, Bangladesh was allowed to beat India. This allowed them to build a much needed reputation and honour.
Next, India piled a big total against Bermuda. I think even an ordinary club level team from India could have stopped India from reaching 400 if there was a will.
Next, Sri Lanka won both their matches comfortably ensuring their entry into the super eight regardless of the match against India.
Natuarlly, India will win against SL and get into the super eight.
India entering the super eight will serve the commercial interests of many including ensuring continued advertising revenue for the TV telecast. The commercial stakes are simply too high to allow India to make an early exit. Unfortunately, Pakistan is not in the same position as India.
Lastly, Bangladesh will, in any case beat Bermuda, but not with a good enough net run rate to overhaul India. Yet they will end the WC campaign in a very honourable manner!
RE:Bermuda/Bang
by bharat on Mar 22, 2007 09:04 AM Permalink
Bermuda will beat Bangladesh provided India cannot beat Sri Lanka. However, this will require hard work from the match fixers.
by seeing the victory of Srilankan....we can under our stuff. We are unfit to play the next match with lnakans. We know the Result....We are out of world cup......Mr. Dravid and Teams....as a travel agent I advise you....pls reconfirm your return bookings at the earliest....otherwise you loose the flight
RE:India Stuff
by Samir Niljikar on Mar 22, 2007 08:37 AM Permalink
I totally agree with you Madhu......India had a chance of beating Bangladesh...Had they played with little bit of authority they would have easily thrashed BDesh....It was the same bowling attack which the Indians and Sri Lankans faced but the way Jaysuriya & Co went about killing the bowlers ,it seems highly unlikely that India will make it Super 8s....and you are right Dravid & Co should start booking their flights or else they wont even get a jump seat !!!!!!!!!!!
RE:RE:RE:India Stuff
by overblown on Mar 22, 2007 09:16 AM Permalink
bosedk, gandungly is responsiable for the defeat against bangladesh as he thought he is playing in his backyard. sala bong
RE:Lanka match
by overblown on Mar 22, 2007 09:20 AM Permalink
robin utthapa sourav sehwag/ dravid. depends on the situation. sachin yuvi dravid/sehwag dhoni zaheer ajit agarkar kumble munaf
RE:RE:Lanka match
by Subramanian K on Mar 22, 2007 09:32 AM Permalink
Slow pitch hai bhai.............second spinner kahaan hain...........sehwag, sachin yuvi do not know to bowl.
Why is Agarkar still in WI? He should have returned home long back. Infact he should have not gone to WI at all.
RE:RE:RE:Lanka match
by bharat on Mar 22, 2007 09:42 AM Permalink
Actually Agarkar has not done so bad. He is pretty economical so far. Problem is that neither he nor Munaf are penetrative enough to support Zaheer from the other end. Therefore, it is better to get Sreesanth into the side. Comparing Agarkar and Munaf, I feel Munaf is a shade better so he should be in as well. I still feel that SL will find it easy to hit spinners. Specially Harbhajan is used to toss the ball up and can be hit easily. The ground is very small and even miscued shots are going for sixes.
RE:RE:Lanka match
by Subramanian K on Mar 22, 2007 08:35 AM Permalink
Bharat.........it is necessary to play two full time spinners. One is not enough. Opening with Pathan will be very, very risky.
RE:RE:RE:Lanka match
by bharat on Mar 22, 2007 08:48 AM Permalink
The ground is very small and as seen from the previous matches, it is very easy to cart sixes of the spinners. Further, Sri Lanka batsmen are comfortable against spin. Harbhajan will be quite easy to hit for sixes. Munaf has been reasonably economical although not penetrative. We need early wickets to stop SL from reaching a massive total, hence Sreesanth in place of Agarkar.
It is best not to disturb Sehwag's batting position again. Pathan may be selected as a pinch hitter rather than a bowler. He cannot be worse than what Uthappa has been doing. He can score quick runs in the power play if he clicks and worth a gamble. Plus, if required, he can offer the option of an additional 5th bowler.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Lanka match
by overblown on Mar 22, 2007 09:28 AM Permalink
utthapa has performed well against the lankans in the past. Still persist with agarkar because of experiance and he was our best bowler in the west indies last time. Sreeshanth would be hammered by jayasuriya and co as he is very predictable. I think zaheer and munaf should open with agarkar 1st change. Sewag should be used as a second spinner. Yuvi/sachin also to be tried out. Then there is sourav who can do a bit with the bowl.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Lanka match
by Subramanian K on Mar 22, 2007 09:06 AM Permalink
Dravid should always come at 3. This is a very critical position. Cannot gamble with Sehwag, who is very much unpredictable. Sreesanth inclusion is definitely ok.
But given the ground conditions two full time spinners seems to be a must.
RE:RE:Lanka match
by Samir Niljikar on Mar 22, 2007 08:48 AM Permalink
Does ICC allow a change in the squad mid-way thru the World Cup?If yes then my team would be 1.K.Srikkanth 2.Sujith Somsunder 3.Kirti Azad 4.Sandeep Patil 5.Vijay Bharadwaj 6.Vijay Dahiya(wk) 7.Narendra Hirwani 8.Utpal Chaterjee 9.Venkatesh Prasad 10.David Johnson 11.D Ganesh
RE:RE:RE:Lanka match
by bharat on Mar 22, 2007 08:55 AM Permalink
RE:RE:Lanka match by Samir Niljikar on Mar 22, 2007 08:48 AM Does ICC allow a change in the squad mid-way thru the World Cup?If yes then my team would be 1.K.Srikkanth (CANNOT KEEP HIS MOUSTACHE FROM GETTING INTO HIS NOSE) 2.Sujith Somsunder (AAYA RAM GAYA RAM category) 3.Kirti Azad (GONE OUT OF SHAPE - FIT FOR THE BERMUDA TEAM) 4.Sandeep Patil (TOO POT BELLIED - ALSO QUALIFIES FOR THE BERMUDA TEAM) 5.Vijay Bharadwaj (TAKEN PREMATURED RETIREMENT ENJOYING HIS SUPERANNUATION) 6.Vijay Dahiya(wk) (APPROACHING RETIREMENT) 7.Narendra Hirwani (NOT SEEN FOR LONG TIME BUT PROBABLY OUT OF SHAPE TOO - LET BERMUDA HAVE HIM) 8.Utpal Chaterjee (WOW! THE BONGS WILL BE VERY HAPPY AND WILL JUMP TO KISS YOU!) 9.Venkatesh Prasad (HAS APPLIED TO BE THE MATCH REFERREE ALONG WITH HIS MATE SRINATH) 10.David Johnson (AYA RAM GAYA RAM CATEGORY) 11.D Ganesh (AYA RAM GAYA RAM CATEGORY)
