RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 26, 2008 05:38 AM Permalink
but they can support their team (Pakis) as long as they don't blow us up
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by nagen samal on Jul 26, 2008 06:39 AM Permalink
Rehan, Do you believe US, pls answer why US is so agressive to add India into list and cong is so aggressive to sign, They will simply send India into 70s to 90s where congress rule and do the curroption. Only thing will happen that US will give a lot money to cong politician. and RJD is also following cong for that . I think you know the status of these politician...
I believe otherthan neuclear there are other sources like solar and wind power...Singapore, germany kind of nature friendly countries are heading for these powers..why we n US can not go for this...n y bush is interested to go into indian nuclear plants...
here the concept is real clear..we are going to be slave of US in 2050 under congress rule...
these cong politician are explaing this concept as a multilevel marketing where as the concept is very clear ... we r going to loose india again...
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 26, 2008 05:27 AM Permalink
Get a life. I do not care what team they root for as long as they don't blow me up. You can not control person's heart but you have every right to defend yourself from being blown up
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Rehaan on Jul 26, 2008 04:58 AM Permalink
My dear Lovers of Nationalist Indians, Good day to you.
1. Our dear friends from BJP, Akali, CPM etc have un-necessarily voted against Nuclear deal, which is directly benefitial to India, so all these guys are anti-national. Lets chuck them out. Let Narendra Modi wrath be un-leashed on them? Are we going to take India ahead to compete with US, EU, China or Somalia, Ethiopia, Afghanistan are our bechmarks?
My point of view is; On what basis the police have concluded Muslims as suspects? Just because its an easy escape from doing serious work?
Very sad. Modi fanned communal tension to remain in power. Even he is not much worried about hindus-desh. Many of his home state MPs have voted against his wishes.
PLEASE STOP THIS BUSINESS OF GENERALISATION. ONE MUSLIM MAKES A MISTAKE, THE WHOLE COMMUNITY GETS THE BLAME. THE SUPER-POWER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD ARE DOING THIS BLAME GAME FOR OTHER REASONS, THEY WANT OIL AND CONTROL OF ENERGY CAPTIVE COUNTRIE. WHAT IS INDIA GETTING IN THIS?
THINK OVER IT.............POINT TO PODER MY FRIEND.
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by rajkiran on Jul 26, 2008 05:13 AM Permalink
Dont make these bullshit argument about generalization. Support laws like POTA etc. then, no one will blame the muslims.
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Anil Kumar on Jul 26, 2008 05:19 AM Permalink
rightly said. as soon as the congress came to power, they abolished POTA, in which persons caught were all muslims.
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Haris Jan on Jul 26, 2008 06:00 AM Permalink
Support POTA if used properly...Unfortunately, our police system is not competent enough.. I would not want an innocent person to rot in prision for beeing falsely accused...... India's police service is not responisble enough to be handed such responsiblity...... Remember Arushi's murder case where the Inspector General (IG) declared the father as the murdrer and then CBI investigation revealed something else..... I don't wanna see innocent people like Dr. Rajesh Talvar to be booked under POTA. They might not be lucky enough to get a chance for CBI investigation
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Rehaan on Jul 26, 2008 06:24 AM Permalink
POTA was removed for political reasons.
Many leaders from Tamil Nadu were under POTA for political reasons. They had to be let out.
Now Congress tried to position itself as a protector of muslims by branding POTA as anti-muslim. BJP gained pooitical points by saying that we are pro-hindus and favour POTA.
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by K L on Jul 26, 2008 07:36 AM Permalink
If we are so serious about uniform laws, don't yoy think the 50% tax concessions given to Hindus under the Hindu undivided Family should also go ? All those in favour of uniform laws should agree to this.
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Rehaan on Jul 26, 2008 05:52 AM Permalink
POTA had nothing to do with terror control measures.
POTA was a weapon to mobile votes on hindutva lines. POTA was a weapon to settle ploitical scores. POTA does not have anything extra that already exists in our existing anti-terro laws, except that you can arrests someone without a case for a minimum of 1 year. A grave human-rights issue. POTA is epitome of a ploitical revenge and not a weapon to have a fool proof anti-terror law. US has PATROIT act (like POTA) in force even today. But much safe they today. How many from 9/11 have been convicted, charged and executed??? Think over it.
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Raman Krishnan on Jul 26, 2008 06:15 AM Permalink
How many terrorist incidents happened after 9/11 in the US? Zero. How many incidents happened in India after December Parliament attacks? How about Jaipur, Hyderabad, J&K, Bangalore?
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Rehaan on Jul 26, 2008 06:41 AM Permalink
Attacks have been averted in US post 9/11, not because of PATROIT. Its because of the stringent measures taken, massive survielance, immigration facilities beefed up, foreigners accounted and tracked.
1. Here in India the borders are porous. The para-military at borders in India is most corrupt. 2. Here in India anyone can make a Ration-Card. The single most important doument to prove domicile. 3. Why no id-cards are issued and people tracked. As in Singapore. Everybody has i-card. No i-card no citizenship.
There are many many measures that can be taken to PREVENT and AVOID such acts leading to terror.
POTA is not a deterance, but a Salvaging measure, to digress attention from the main causes.
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by sudhir on Jul 26, 2008 05:57 AM Permalink
If by punishing thieves , thefts does not stop does that mean remove the law to punish thieves.
Law never ensure the stoppage of crime, they just act as a deterrent for criminals.
As far as US is concerned we do not see any terror attacks after 9/11
RE:RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Raman Krishnan on Jul 26, 2008 06:20 AM Permalink
I agree that the entire community should not be blamed. But who funds these terrorist organizations? Which countries are involved? Surely Saudi Arabia and other oil rich countries are involved in funding madrassas for their Wahabbist ideologies. Or their minions Pakistan and Bangladesh which are spreading the same ideology. Why are the Indian Muslim organizations accepting funding from these global terrorist organizations?
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by Rehaan on Jul 26, 2008 06:33 AM Permalink
Mr Raman, You started your argument judiciously. But digresed in between.
Blaming community and (so called) funding of madarsas have no relation. Madarsas have got a blck mark due to US cold war tactic - to throw Soviets out of Afghanistan. They needed foot soldiers who do not belong to the security/army/para-military forces in Pak. Madarsa talibs (students) were identified as a ready manpower to train and support. It was opportunistic tendency of Narrow-minded Pak leaders to stoop low and hand-over Talibs to be trained. The Madarsas in India have no such orientation and linkages.
We in India have the tendency to ape what happens in the world.
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by sudhir on Jul 26, 2008 05:07 AM Permalink
can you tell me how much electricity will be generated because of the deal by 2015.
What is so beneficial about the deal when Australia which is major source of uranium has refused ot supply uranium unless India signs NPT which treats India as a Non-nuclear state.
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Haris Jan on Jul 26, 2008 05:14 AM Permalink
Sudhir..Regarding how much electricity will be produced by 2015, i would like you to go read/listen P. Chitambram's speech in the lower house where he talks about China and China's vision with Nuclear Electricity. I really liked that part of the speech where he reads how China, even tho it produces onlu 2% electricity with Nuclear power now, has set major milestone to depend on Nuclear power. We need to look into the future.... Enery will be one of the leading factor to decide world power
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by sudhir on Jul 26, 2008 05:17 AM Permalink
Yes china is a nuclear state and can get uranium from Australia. But India can only construct nuclear plants, where will the fuel come from.
One more thing US which is so eager to get India sign this deal has not built a single nuclear power plant in past 35 years.
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Rehaan on Jul 26, 2008 05:27 AM Permalink
We have to rise above singular benefit of N-deal in electricity generation.
1. The deal make India open to N-commerce. 2. All ban related N-technology would be removed. 3. We will join the coveted few in the nuclear club. 4. India cannot become a leader, with no access to an important area calles N-club.
Please do not play with statistics to prove a wrong point. Thats what politicians have done. The N-power generation share in the world is growing, Coal based 39% Oil 10% Gas 15% Hydro 19% Nuclear 16% Others 1%
Lets not quote statistics to suit our biased point. Australia does not generate electricity out of Nuclear power, its their funeral. The other countries Korea, Japan, US, EU are doing it. Since when Australia has become our benchmark?
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by sudhir on Jul 26, 2008 05:34 AM Permalink
India does not generate power from oil and gas. There are only 3 sources of power in India - major Thermal coal based, Hydro and nuclear currently 2%.
Australia is the most important supplier of uranium which is the fuel used in the nuclear reactors. So if Australia says no for the supply of uranium then major supplier of fuel is lost and that is what it is currently doing. We will join the N-Club for only technology to build power plants but not nuclear weapons but this also puts our our nuclear plant under inspection which are currently the major sources for nuclear weapons of india. And these inspection will be done by IAEA the same organisation which had declared that IRAQ had nuclear weapons.
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by nagen samal on Jul 26, 2008 06:38 AM Permalink
Rehan, Do you believe US, pls answer why US is so agressive to add India into list and cong is so aggressive to sign, They will simply send India into 70s to 90s where congress rule and do the curroption. Only thing will happen that US will give a lot money to cong politician. and RJD is also following cong for that . I think you know the status of these politician...
I believe otherthan neuclear there are other sources like solar and wind power...Singapore, germany kind of nature friendly countries are heading for these powers..why we n US can not go for this...n y bush is interested to go into indian nuclear plants...
here the concept is real clear..we are going to be slave of US in 2050 under congress rule...
these cong politician are explaing this concept as a multilevel marketing where as the concept is very clear ... we r going to loose india again...
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Rehaan on Jul 26, 2008 05:42 AM Permalink
My dear Mr Sudhir, IAEA never declared that Iraq had weapons. They only went into series of inpections on the basis of suspicion by EU, US etc.
In fact US invaded Iraq after getting OK from IAEA that Iraq DOES NOT have any weapons capability and all identied n-facilities inside Iraq are destroyed.
The case in Iraq and India is different.
India will be (insha-allah) 2nd among countries with highest GDP in 2050. We have tp prepare for those days.
In 1980s when IT and computerisation of banks was initiated, there were series agitations that now with computers, people will loose jobs. Life is doomed. But just the reverse happened. India is IT super-power.
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Pushp Shah on Jul 26, 2008 05:21 AM Permalink
thats your muslim community problem.......so u r bound to be affected, being muslim......nobody else to blame......thats your community reputation.....nobody can help.....solve the problem among yourselves rather than being oblivious
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Haris Jan on Jul 26, 2008 04:51 AM Permalink
I understand what they were doing was wrong.... but that has to do with Nationalism and not Terrorism. Lets not compare Sachin getting out with people loosing life. (hey i just realised ur name is sachin too... is that why u felt so bad.. Just kidding. I like tendulkar. my favorite)
RE:Its too fashionable to blame muslims !!
by Syed Quadri on Jul 26, 2008 05:21 AM Permalink
All concocted stories from Khaki Chaddi wala Colonial Ghulams
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by R Prasad on Jul 26, 2008 03:32 PM Permalink
There is nothing hot about you muslims for us to make up fashionable statements about you.
