Sunil Ji, what do you mean "when you came". I was born in Kashmir. I speak the language of Kashmir. I know its history, and its culture, and I have shared the pain and anguish of my people. And you still think "I came". I am surprised how much Kashmir matters to you. You have nothing to do with it. You don't speak its language or know its customs or rituals. Why should it matter to you.
When you were under British, didn't you want freedom? British also occupied India by trickery, that did not stop the great Mahatma to give a call for freedom. Why should Kashmiris give up. It is their country, the beautiful motherland called Kashmir. If you come their with your weapons you will be treated as enemies, but if you come with no ill will we will treat you like great friends.
The real metaphor is this:
What will you do if someone occupied you in the guise of helping you? When the Hindu Maharaja signed the treaty with India it had no moral force. It is the same as the Nizam of Hyderabad who tried to sign treaty with the Pakistan. But did you accept it at that time. Why should Kashmiris accept a treaty signed by a ruler who was not even the real son of his father?
RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by Ridhi Dhar on Jan 06, 2008 05:59 PM Permalink
you should not at all.keep up with your spirits. fight for your freedom. par junaid ji yeh sapna apka sapna baan kar hi rehjaega......my sympathies to you.vaise now who will help you pakistan(benazir to gayi)or osama.am just worried wat to do.im also kasmiri na knowing its true history and culture.a land of rishis.please save it.
RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by junaid on Jan 06, 2008 06:12 PM Permalink
Dear Rishi, we will save Kashmir together, Pandits and Muslims, from the evil hands of India and Pakistan. We will make it a glorious country as it has been in history.
We should count on the support of Benazzirs and Osmas of the world, neither should we think that any Mondi or advanti can help. As a people we should just believe in opurselves.
Every great nation starts with a dream. To be free you have to think of freedom, and how to achieve it.
RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by Ridhi Dhar on Jan 06, 2008 06:23 PM Permalink
also It is impossible that INDIA will separate Kashmir. It is 100% impossible. You have choice to live your life happily and make Kashmir a nice place or have few guns in your hand and keep killing your own brothers. bye bye....
RE:RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by IndiaWiNS ALL on Jan 06, 2008 06:35 PM Permalink
You need Osama's help to free kashmir........He will ask you to first kill your family by doing a sicide attack on them.......Hope you will enjoy that!
And more over,you are a person who cannot be faithful to anyone.You eat Indian bread and live on the finances of India and you think about betraying it.
God wonder,who gave birth to such a pest....Let me tell you what you are....you have a parasitic relation with India,or even your so called land Kashmir.You will destroy it,with your so called guru Osama.
And as far as liberation of Kashmir,I wonder what deep oppression are you in...your terrorists have prevented the groeth of your state and has prevented every1 from visiting kashmir.
And liberating Kashmir from India,Keep dreaming. Take Care
RE:RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by Ridhi Dhar on Jan 06, 2008 06:19 PM Permalink
im ridhi, kher you can carry with your freedom struggle,nation,country hahaha(all the best)keep killing your own brothers and sisters.fools are you in my opinion.go create a heaven like its in pakistan and afganistan.kher its your dream so carry on......
but dont expect true kashmiris to support you.we are kashmiris who are indians to the core.
RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by manishauraval on Jan 06, 2008 05:52 PM Permalink
U talk of Mahatma and talk violent. Where is Mahatma movement in Kashmir ? Killing your own other religion people was not taught by Mahatma or not in his movement . People like you are VERY GOOD to keep Kashmir in the current state.
RE:RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by junaid on Jan 06, 2008 05:58 PM Permalink
In fact we in Kashmir talk more about Mahatma than you in INdia. You have forgotten him altogether in the place of his birth. Gujarat and the fate of Indian Muslims is just one small example. Nelie, Jamshedpur, Kanpur, Meerut are other examples.
Violence in Kashmir is because India has sent 8 lakh occupation troops into kashmir. They are laden with heavy weapons. That is why violence is there.
When Mahatma fought with Satygraha he was fighting British, who were decent enough to respect it. Indian state has no decency, it crushes all non=violent and violent movements equally.
RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by Srinivas on Jan 06, 2008 06:05 PM Permalink
This is what I was interested in !! This shows your real face. "MUSLIMS". You think only muslims are human beings and non other is. This is not your fault. This is the problem with every average Muslim. Can you name a single Hindu terrorist organising that is fighiting for the freedom of Kashmir ?? Or that matter can you name a single terrorist organisatiom that is fighiting in the name of Hinduism ?? If you are interested goto wikipedia and see there are more Muslim terrorist organisations then all clubbed together. And for your interest not a single one. And yes wikipedia is not controlled by me. Still you are using Mahatma. You have forgotten that when Gulab Nabi Azad asked children to follow him your Mullas issued fatwa.
RE:RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by junaid on Jan 06, 2008 06:16 PM Permalink
Srinivas, are you irritated because I spoke of some places where Hindus massacred Muslims? If you go back and read the replies here you will see I have condemned killings of 200 Hindus in Kashmir since 1990.
What do you think Bajrang Dal, VHP, and LTTE is? Hindi violence against Muslims and Christians in India escapes you. It is not surprising, because that is what is taught to you in RSS Shakhas by the wet khaki chaddhis.
RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by junaid on Jan 06, 2008 06:34 PM Permalink
Srinivas, see you have run out of all imagination. You bank your knowledge on wikipedia. You must know that anyone can change it. It is extremely unreliable, as the website itself suggests.
If really wants to crush you (violent) people it could have done long time back. We allknow the games of your Mufti Mohd and Farooq Abdullah. Do you think we are fools in believing the Rubina Kidnap Drama or the supply of weapons by Iran to Shias.
Kashmir na thum log tha Srinagara has a Historical link to Patna as it is a city built by Asoka the Great.
You are talking of Mahatma haahaa it sounds like a butcher speaking of Non-violence. what happened to 4,00,000 missing Kashmiiri Pandits and why 5,00,000 living as beggars in India, refugees in their own country ???
RE:RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by junaid on Jan 06, 2008 06:29 PM Permalink
Kashmir has another link to your Patna. Our last independent ruler, King Yusuf Shah Chak, was imprisoned by your Mughal Akbar. Our King is buried there. We take inspiration from him. Once Kashmir will be free, we will take his last remains and bury them honourably in Kashmir.
You have used Kashmiri Pandits for your propaganda puposes. Pandits know it.
RE:RE:RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by IndiaWiNS ALL on Jan 06, 2008 06:41 PM Permalink
Hi junnaid,can you tell me where you are staying.....I want to tell to the police.......probably they will gun you down
RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by manishauraval on Jan 06, 2008 06:02 PM Permalink
Are u from Pakistan ? I am 100% sure your language is more like Pakistani ! Kashmiris are far more decent and believer of ISALAM
RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by IndiaWiNS ALL on Jan 06, 2008 06:26 PM Permalink
Are u tritor of India who speaks......You have sounded as if you have people from the ISI behind you.Maybe you want to be part of the GREAT nation called pakistan,where stability is a word that is laughed aloud. We are Indians,India was formed by the comming together of many different people together.If Kashmir wants to be with Pakistan,then all who believe that should be kicked into Azad Kashmir and out of India.And even that case Kashmir stays with India.I hope dear you agree.....Hehehe
RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by rajan rao on Jan 06, 2008 05:57 PM Permalink
I appreciate your point. You rightly have a point to ponder over. The main worry of Indians which is stopping freedom to kashmir is Politics (whichever party allows it, they will be called as Gaddar and the other party will exploit this to the hilt and so no party want to take this step) and second, if kashmir is given freedom, the other states also may demand freedom adn ultimately India will become another USSR and break. But, i personally feel that, something should be done to respect the kashmiri peoples' dignity and they must be won over by good deeds and not by rigging elections and sloganeering.
RE:Kashmir Zindabad
by manishauraval on Jan 06, 2008 06:06 PM Permalink
AGREEMENT is sane and DISAGREEMENT is insane. Enjoy your views. It is impossible that INDIA will separate Kashmir. It is 100% impossible. You have choice to live your life happily and make Kashmir a nice place or have few guns in your hand and keep killing your own brothers.
