Ram, vishnu , brahma , all artificial, no history, Characters of brahmin fictions. They look good in stories, not in reality. Emotions, sentiments cannot rule the world.Any educated Hindu shouldn't believe in fake stories which never existed.
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by Patriot on Oct 03, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
so what should they believe in ? Ramayana and Mahabharata are inspirational. They guide, motivate, empower and help one evolve as an individual..If as humans we cannot appreciate them, then what else can be aspirational ? There are a lot many that are passing caustic, uncalled for comments against Sri Rama.. If you do not believe in him, by all means ignore him. But why ridicule or hurt the faith of those that believe in him? It is this kind of frivolous, flippant behavior that leads to riots, looting, arson. Hindus by nature are always reactionary.. they do not go out of the way to invade others or destroy others; but then if people like you keep on provoking them, they will hit back. Always remember that infamous photograph of post-godhra riots of a muslim pleading for mercy. It is a result of boiling rage within hindus. Learn to behave oneself and respect hindus ( do not incite a sleeping tiger) unless you want a north - south fight and see some riots with photographs of a DMKite ( or probably karunanidhi himself ) pleading for mercy ( remember he was stripped almost naked and whipped by police some 4 years back in full public glare ) .. Desist from making inflationary, provocative statements without fully understanding the ramifications of the same. If faith were to be removed from humans, we are just animals ; and in animal kingdom might is right, do you want that ? Think before you speak.
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by Albert on Oct 03, 2007 03:30 PM Permalink
Dear Swamsevakji,
"Always remember that infamous photograph of post-godhra riots of a muslim pleading for mercy. It is a result of boiling rage within hindus. Learn to behave oneself and respect hindus ( do not incite a sleeping tiger)"
Ramasubbu is very few of the Hindus who think before they act But swyamsevaks dont think at all So dont threaten that poor man, let there be freedom of expression man. Blood shed among Indians are the only agenda of the spoiled kids (RSS) of BJP. But keep everything within the limits of north India, where people's favourite colour is RED colour of blood and heard that they drink cola and blood to quench their thirst So people of south India will be greatful if you don't spoil the culture of its own
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by Albert on Oct 03, 2007 06:35 PM Permalink
Mr. Sharma "venom which flows in your veins, is but propaganda of the church"
Though Im not a fanatic Im answering this to tell you That you have never seen church mass fully nor a church I bet you none of the priests preach hatred like the RSS do. Christianity is growing with the acceptence support and the negative publicity RSS provides. But NO FAITH OR A SAINT PREACHES VIOLENCE You educated hindus know that too. But to mislead the low caste hindus from their growth, the sangh does this dirty job. Sangh and the brahmins are afraid the Indian economy is too small to to provide a decent life to all the hindus, thats why they take lead from old puranas to create unrest.
But many of the upper class hindus are too clever and understand every bit of this.
They show their wisdom only when they want an admission in a christian school, or they get it while standing in a 'Q' at the doors of US embassy in hot sun. Like How Buddha got it.
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by Albert on Oct 03, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
To Patriot ans Mr. Sharmaji,
Why dont you both take a wow to say a prayer every night before going to bed. The prayer is, India is my country, Every Indians are my brothers and sisters.
It may help to release the frustration
But whatever Karunanidhi said is wrong if it is said to hurt, But he is a old man and he is revered for his age, will you not forgive your grand father?
As per rama sethu and its canal it should not be considered when so much of people opposing it. I think there should be a referendum on it if we are truly democratic. But the fact is it is not exactly the canal, but BJPs comback plan with preachings of hatred and violence are the concern. About the north south divide this is not the first time tamil bashing is done. Tamil nadu and tamils are hated allover India and you should accept it. Once I worked in mumbai and some people were saying lot of madrasis who spoil their party. The lot consists Mallus and telugus but IT is THE TAMIL WHO TAKE THE BRUNT ALWAYS Be it in bangalore or in Mumbai this is the sad situation of my people. If hinduism can change this step motherly treatments, I will really apprriciate it.
Believe me There should not be a canal if majority dont want it. all you have to do is do not abuse tamils as they are one lot of secular people and patriots as well.
I am re-posting this as your chnanging of clouours does not change my response
You previously talk about "South India" and South Indians as being seperate from the North and then preach Indian Unity.
You want to revere what Karunanidhi said after he hurt so many millions' sentiment.
What sheer hypocrisy.
When people respond to your Hindu bashing you, then ask them to take a higher road, while you yourself make snide remarks and denigrate Hindu faith.
YOur last ludicrous statement about the Sensex being much higher now than when BJP left office is bordering on the ridiculous.
This is a DIRECT benefit of investment and GOOD GOVERNANCE BY THE BJP.
How foolish to think that this could have happened without planning and investment made YEARS before results come to fruition.
Is that not why all of us go to school and INVEST years of our life so that the benfits come about YEARS later.
In your zeal to put down BJP and Hindus you forget that we Hindus are also aware of the brainwashing that occurs by the padre/mulla and that in some instances (not all) your loyalty lies more to yuor faith than your antion.
So, the time for fooling Hindus by manipulation IS COMING TO AN END.
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by shubhankar sharma on Oct 03, 2007 07:53 PM Permalink
Christianity is one of the few faiths PREACHING non violence. But its folowers do the exact OPPOSITE. Christians have historically come across as a bloodthirsty race. Crusades is just one example. The tirade against the islamicworld and destruction of Iraq is another example. I have indeed seen the church and its folowers very closely. I have seen from myown eyes how in delhi chuch offers bribes to hindus to convert. In fact christian conversion is perhaps the most confounding financial crime of the modern day.
As far as christian schools go, I personally made it a point that my child will not study in this false religion of hate. she does not go to a christian school.
And now Mr albert, its YOUR CHRISTIAN brothers who are queing at the gate sof india to make some money. to be a part of this 'HINDU ECONOMIC GROWTH ENGINE'
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by Patriot on Oct 03, 2007 07:29 PM Permalink
Mr Albert you are still resorting to same old brahmin bashing and hindu bashing.. You have never addressed the point what I was trying to make.. If you are a christian, then fine.. stick to christianity.. why criticise hindus or hindu deities ? and if you still believe in doing that , then equally you will face and very much deserve the muck that the other side will throw in response. We are not that tolerant that you will come and make nasty comments on us and we should take that in stride. Desist from instigation and provocation. there are already enough issues to address for the nation as a whole. Do not ridicule hindus or their deities without knowing them or what they represent.. and there is no north south divide except amongst those that want to fuel this. There are more hindu temples in south india ( and tamil nadu in particular ) than in any other state in this country. But unfortunately the likes of you have your own agenda ( to promote christianity ), the likes of Karunanidhi have their own ( to fuel atheism and tamil nationalism ).. It is jesus ( I guess )that said 'DO NOT DO UNTO OTHERS THAT WHICH YOU WOULD NOT WANT DONE UNTO ONESELF'.. and so are you even a honest to goodness christian???
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by Ramasubbu on Oct 04, 2007 01:46 AM Permalink
Kakaji or Chacha ji, Why many of Hindus study in Christian school. No educated family wants to send thier kids to Hindu schools, not even BJP, RSS, VHP activist's kids go to Hindu school. It is because Ram, Brahma, Vishnu, Ganesha are fake gods and we are tolerating brahmin slavery. Who would send their kids to follow brahmin slavery or to follow fake gods. I am not believing jesus either, But point is why other countries are doing much better without Ram, sita, Krishna, Brahma, Ganesha? Do Europe or America have Rama, brahma fake stories to motivate society? Frankly speaking Hinduism is nothing but slavery of brahmins and their non-existing bogus characters. We feed them, we please them, and we live under their threat, so that they can survive. Itis the reason India is today ruled by goons,& probably most corrupt country in world with around 160,000 Crores of Rs going in Bribe, gifts and favours where 98% police and judiciary is rotten. Do you still want us to trust slavery of Hinduism is doing any good? First stop sending your kids to Christian schools, stop corruption. Talking abt Ram and Sita would gain politicians to get votes, but what public will get? Women will still be raped by Army, police and powerful people.Indian women are most unsafe in Sita's country. Judiciary will still get leased to devils. Ravan had multiple heads or not, but certainly our country& brahmin politics has.It is time we scrap slavery of hinduism and talk about humanity. Believe religion princ
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by Ramasubbu on Oct 05, 2007 01:48 PM Permalink
there is no lord rama. he never existed. only fanatic will believe, not the people who think rationally and believe in science. let hindu gods drink tonnes of milk, but i would bother more for poor kids who can't get milk. God drink milk happily and their devotees die out of starvation.
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by Mahendra Patel on Oct 05, 2007 11:16 AM Permalink
Here is where Midle Eastern Religion of BOOKS Fit in our Scheme.(these are Called Religions of BOOK, Because They Just Blindley Read and Blindly Follow-and their Religion is Frozen for Last 2000 and 1400 in Book)
In pure form One is Devotional Path of Madhva, Ramanuja, Vllabha.(Qualified Vashistha- Dvaita,God and Human).
The other May be close to Shankara's Advaita.
But in practice- Look at Middle East and Western Europe's History- Last Two World war, Including Lesser one in Vietnam and Presently in Iraq. Killing Close to Million, unarmed Civilian- That's what we need to discuss,and not any other Sacred Subject Like Vedas, Hinduism and Incarnation of LORD VISNU-RAMA.
It is said that Even Jesus came to INDIA to learn What is Real Religion Means.(Beause from age 15 to 32 There is no Record of Jesus), In new Testament-Gospel of jesuses Closest Desciple Marry Magdalin is not Included, because She was woman.
Don't argue with our own Country men, at present they neither know their Past nor the History of Religion of BOOKS and Current state of mind of Their own Faith, they have Killed Millions, in Europe, North America, South America, Asia, Middle East, AFRICA-Name a Place were they have spared Native People, for What? Free LAND, MINERALS ,OIL ,DIAMONDS-Than they bring with them Their Priests to Convert those who servived, why ? Convert and still treat them as Slave,not as equall,Put enough POISON in their Mind-So that they Live and Act like ZOMBIE.
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by Ramasubbu on Oct 04, 2007 12:53 PM Permalink
Thank god america, japan, germany did not have Ram, else they would have been as corrupt as Indians. look at our judiciary and police who are 90% rotten. Women are most unsafe in this Ram-rajya. thank god Rest of world doesn't have this Ram Rajya. let us go to christian school and start believing all those fake gods created by Brahmins. Basically hinduism is another name of brahmin slavery. RAM RAJYA HAS CORRUPTED OUR COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLE DIE OUT OF HUNGER, DISEASE , POVERTY, but we still love feeding our fake gods with LADDU and PEDA.
All our kids go to christian schools and we talk about non-existing Ram. Afterall we are slaves to our gunda politicians, bureaucracy and slave of western world. Thanks to China also who manufacturer our Hanumanji and Ram Idols. Imported Ramji , sitaji, Hanumanji.
I apologise for being blunt, I don't care what religion you or we are, first we need to respect work, humanity. RAM RAJYA has only bought as poverty, hunger and slavery.
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by Ramasubbu on Oct 05, 2007 01:41 PM Permalink
Saivist and Vaishanvites were big enemies of each other. Hinduism was formed some 500 years ago believe it or not it is your problem. Brahmins hated Siva and he was considered another ravana, who was sent to vanvas just being dravidian god, as per their second version of veda. Morover siva is another form of Jain god adinath who were discovered in harappan civilization which is more than 5000 years old culture.
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by Mahendra Patel on Oct 07, 2007 06:22 AM Permalink
Listen dear, Fake, Fiction or Fact Freak. See the Geneousness of shaping Grand CIVILIZATION.
It's not Built on Hatred -But Great insight into very core of Humanity. So dear don't waste you time.
Look at other So called Religion of Books they are Frozen for Last 2000 and the other for 1400 years those are dead relion,out dated by 2000 years. There is no sense in defendig those, they are in decline both as religion and on account of influencing mindset of their followers, one is fall in Trap of MONEY and the other is Fall in Trap of Hate.
If you like that's fine with US. That's why The Majority of INDIA allowing you to Pursue you Folley.
