why such a hue & cry over this issue? First of all its a non-issue.Whats wrong with the MBA doing a sales & marketting job by going door-to-door to make business & get incentives?. We have to forget the concept of easy money,the typical 'Sarkari Babu' type job with many facilities,less work and timepass if we as a nation wants to grow . We indians are stupids & idiots in many ways for we do not understand the dignity of work.IN US & European countries even an executive does not mind working in macdonals serving burgers if he is laid off from his company for he knows its a must for his survival and the ego issue would leave him dying on the street. We indians really need to understand the work culture. Its always a better situation to have employment rather than having no employment. However I will not blame the young generation for this. The root cause is the upbriniging of these youths. Their parents right from their school days keep on threatening them citing example of labourers,collies,waiters,street workers and hawkers saying if they do not study ,they would also end up in similar kind of profession. This creates a complex in their minds regarding these jobs for they are not taught for understanding the dignity of work. Majority of the parents take pride in saying that their children are in US doing a lucrative job and enjoying there .This wrong precedent is started by the parents and they are only to blame.
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by Umesh on May 01, 2008 01:30 PM Permalink
Very wel said... In India WE DO NOT HAVE JOB DIGNITY mostly because of CASTE system. It is known fact that many student who go to US,UK or AUST do so called low jobs as per general Indian belief to support themself during study..
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by Arpan Roy on May 01, 2008 01:35 PM Permalink
Will you not want your children to work for a reputed company at a reputed post with a handsome salary ? Will you not teach them the difference in the job profile of an executive and a coolie ? Do YOU treat the hawker in a bus with due respect? Do YOU like to see the face of the salesman when you are enjoying your afternoon siesta(when the MBA salesman is just aiming to fulfil his target)??Will you like your son to tell you that he would rather avoid studies and sell life insurance policies(because he has not been taught that being a salesman is the worst thing to do)????
Mr. Aadi Manav, we are not reformers and no parents are. We can't and change the outlook of Indian government or make India a developed nation. It is not possible to change the outlook of Indian society all of a sudden. Its always practical and preferable to try and do a respectable job because "When you go to Rome you should do as the Romans do". If you want to reform them, you will only end up being left out and I will be there to say "Hats Off to your sincere effort !"
P.S - If you know any means by which India can become at par with US & Japan and we can have dignity of labour within the time our children grow up, please let us know at the rediff forum.
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by Arpan Roy on May 01, 2008 01:47 PM Permalink
So you as a parent will tell your children that there is no need to sit for "COMPETITIVE EXAMS" like IIT-JEE because there is 50% chance of cracking the exam bcos it one has to "COMPETE" with other students???? Will you tell your children to be a B.Sc or B.Com and not aim for other "COMPETITIVE" exams because one who sits for a B.Sc or B.Com exam will alwways pass and there is hardly any competition and according to you it is dignified to avoid competing.
right now you are thinking Bsc and Bcom are inferior to engineering and MBA.
first change your attitude.
please note that every body will work only when there is a motivation. during childhood, the child is motivated by parents. during youth the person works by the motivation of wife. during old age a person will work by the motivation of grandchildren.
but the actual motivation should be GOD who will always stays with us at all times.
working for GOD does not recommend competition but it recommends service.
therefore lower jobs are giving more peace of mind rather than these high paying jobs.
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by L on May 01, 2008 12:58 PM Permalink
true..its the dignity of labour which needs to be "drilled" into the indian pysche.. and hopefully this will end the fascination for being "at the top" and hence the huge salary differences in the different hierachy of companies.. typical to our scenario
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by Bhagat Singh on May 01, 2008 01:45 PM Permalink
u r perfactly right. If a girl can't do this job then, it'e better for them to be away for this. Sales and marketing job is to go to door and door. You have to start it from here. Aajakl, har gali gali mein MBA aur engineering colleges open ho gaye hain. So, to get the degree of MBA and engineering are not at all tough task. And, it also does not mean that if you have MBA degree than, u r at par or really u r competent. Similarly for engineering. To become an engineer, you first have the engineering way of thinking or solving the problem, rather than to have a degree. If, a MBA from a GALI college and a MBA from IIM, both are similar then, why ppl will fight to get inside IIM. It is bascially game of QUALITY RATHER THAN A DEGREE AND QUANTITY.
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by Erasmus on May 01, 2008 12:52 PM Permalink
Well said and to the point. Especially the case of security guy. If goods worth crore gets stolen while the guard goes to bathroom leaving the door unattended. Isnt that a major security loophole which should be notified to highr authority?
High time people realize that sitting in front of computer is not the only job.
RE:Parents To Blame
by Arpan Roy on May 01, 2008 01:32 PM Permalink
In US and Europe,even hawkers,coolies,labourers and workers are well paid and you find your maid servant coming to your house in his/her car. These are developed nations, they have a strong economy and so there is dignity of labour. Even a labourer can eke out an existence with the salary he receives.
Do you mean to say that parents in India should inspire their children and encourage them to be labourers and workers?? Can a hawker or waiter at a Dhaba lead a decent life in India ??Can you compare a roadside Dhaba with a posh McDonalds? IIM-A is charging Rs. 11.5 lakhs for a two year MBA program and private B-schools charge even more sometimes. You mean to say that after parents invest the amount they would be happy if their next generation get a door-to-door sales job, which is NOT a dignified job in a third world country. You can blame the government for having poor work culture and doing nothing about labourer unions but you can't blame the parents. A child has to use his fullest potential to crack competitive exams as it is the survival of the fittest. Parents need to show their children the consequences of avoiding studies. Otherwise, from a very young age we will find children aiming to be a coolie or a hawker or a sweeper as any profession respects dignity of work (and such professions dont demand academic proficiency).
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by Aadi Manav on May 01, 2008 01:07 PM Permalink
I have just cited example of US & Europe for the Dignity of the work and the value they hold for the work cultture. It does not mean i advocate the american culture in food and family life.You are a big fool to have misunderstood this
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by Umesh on May 01, 2008 01:44 PM Permalink
it is useless to compare AMERICAN & INDIAN social life. In other way in India 70 to 80 % of people are struggling to meet basic requirement of ROTI KAPDA aur MAKAN. Most of the farmers are working beyond age of 70. If you compare Avaradge Americam, he is far happier that Avarade Indian at least in materialistic worrld. Why there are endless ques to get visa for us, uk etc.There is nothing wrong to copy good things from others if they are useful for human beings in good way.
