Why dont you do the same to Saravana Bhavan. They are opeing everywhere and it is not affecting the small hotel owners? And so keep expanding this logic to all the big business right now and protest with the same logig idiot.
What do you think Only you and your stupid son can start and own any business?
RE:Why not this?
by Karthik Kumar on Aug 24, 2007 11:36 PM Permalink
Quote from Ramdoss --- We have enough traders who compete with each other. We don't need Reliance. In the beginning they will pay the farmer more and sell at a loss.
Later, when the local retailers close shop they will reduce their rate of purchase and increase the sales price. There will be no one to oppose them.
We have enough small political parties, why not close parties with more than 10 MLAs including the PMK? If Reliance pays the required cut to Ramadoss and Anbumani, they will tuck their tails like street dogs and keep quiet. For a party which began its journey by cutting trees, creating caste wars and disturbing normal life and is totally corrupt, Ramadoss pleading the cause of small traders is like devil quoting the scriptures. Let them contest alone in any election, they will not win even a single seat if votes are split. Even with support of DMK, they lost the Tindivanam seat last year, that is their home town from where they commit all these atrocities.
RE:RE:Why not this?
by Tim on Aug 25, 2007 12:13 AM Permalink
This is how the market economy works. Take any business for that matter. One company sells a good for x price and then comes a competitor and sells for less and tries to give better quality. So if you dont want that to happen then there should be only one company for everything in the country and they should all be run by the government.
Probably if you own a business however small it may be then you may have to shut down as there will always people who do the same business as you do and could not compete with you.
So are U willing to close your business the same way you are asking them to do.
Tomorrow bigger company will come and compete with Reliance. This is how it works.
If not then you are talking the same dirty Communism which will not survive anywhere.
RE:RE:Why not this?
by Tim on Aug 25, 2007 01:15 AM Permalink
Does it also mean that I cannot become the same small trader as well, as there are enough small traders competing against each other.
RE:Why not this?
by Tim on Aug 25, 2007 12:35 AM Permalink
Exactly. Also we want reliance to expand their oil drilling and find out more oil so that our country can be self reliant instead of depending on Foreign oil. Why dont other people compete there. Probably they dont have the muscle or none of their family members own someting like that.
Asl long as they take business where they dont have interest then it is ok. But if you extend the same logic to the businesses that these guys operate then it is not right.
If you talk one logic then you should extend the same logic to every business, cannot then go and qualify and quantify the logic.
RE:RE:Why not this?
by Suhasini Gopi on Aug 25, 2007 11:35 AM Permalink
Raman - I guess you need to do your maths right. By cutting the mandi, the middlemen (Two Layers) and the wholesaler off - Reliance and their ilk can still pay higher for the farmers' produce. This will make the farmers happy - remember agriculture gives 25% of Indian Economy and sustains 65% of Indian Employees (organized and unorganized sectors put together).
Once they buy at a lower rate (relative to current purchase rates), they can give to their consumers (like you and me) at a rate lower than current rates. Which means our vegetable and fruits cost can go down, which is an important component in our inflation concern.
What do you want - some unseen middle man live off the blood of the farmer or the farmer and you live with more disposable cash for investments/savings?
Use your own intellect and don't parrot a headless chicken's voice - he cries for votes so he has to posture. You do not need to...
RE:Why not this?
by Tim on Aug 25, 2007 01:13 AM Permalink
One more example. Let us say you go to purchace cloths for Diwali. You go to a store, check the quality, price and the designs and if you don;t like if the you go to another store and check it up.
Probably the first store you went could not get a good quality product or any other reason. That does not mean that the better store where you purchased should be shut down as he is taking the business of the first store.
One more example.
I lived in a town where there were no automobile repair shop for about 5 kilometers. There used to be a guy who used to sit in the road and earn his money by doing small things like fixing flat tires etc.
Then suddenly one day someone saw this and opened a small automobile repair shop. So this guy who was sitting on the road has to go to another place as he could not compete with the shop opened.
So does it mean that we should not have allowed the automobile repair shop guy to open his shop as he ruined the guy sitting on the road?
Everything works like that. Now this guy went to another part of town where there are no shops. Now all of a sudden the town became a big developing city and then a lot of shops came, more choices to the customer, etc.
So there is nothing like Enough competition. It is relative and we cannot just blindly go about saying this loose words.
RE:Why not this?
by Malliga Gurumoorthy on Aug 25, 2007 06:00 AM Permalink
You purchase good quality product today but this will wipe out the livelihoods of millions of people across the country. Tomorrow, we will have Reliance purchasing acres and acres of land in India, and will employ all the machines to run it, thereby spoiling the livelihood of the farmers as well as the small scale retailers.
The government ought to help the farmers come out with more quality products, introduce modern methods there. That will save the family cultivating the goods. But writing off everything to reliance will only emphasize the maxim "Rich gets richer, Poor gets poorer."
RE:RE:Why not this?
by Tim on Aug 25, 2007 07:07 AM Permalink
So will you stop buying the good stuff now. May be you are the one who only wears Khadhi products made only in India. Or may be you are just writing this and dont follow just like the communists and this joker?
Man you still keep taking like all these stupid Communists. Some time back these stupid guys said if you bring in Computer then all the jobs will be taken away. Illiterate morons. Look what happened. All the jobs and the Foreign exchanges the the economic boom is happening because of the Computers.
It has resulted in millions and millions of jobs. Not the same will hold good. By your own words Reliance will buy acres and acres of land and put in a lot of machineries to run the plant. You think Mukesh or Anil is going to do it personally.
Yes there will be some changes in the way we do things and then in a longer run it will benifit everyone.
