I'd like to ask a question. Why do Indian's burn stuff? I don't understand.
If Ponting gets out a typical Australian reaction is 'oh damn'. Then life carries on.
If Tendulkar gets out, the typical Indian reaction is to take to the streets and burn shit. Why? How is that at all an appropriate reaction? Hell how is it a reaction at all? Where's the sense in it?
Australia lose - damn. India lose -Burn shit and riot. Why?
Is it something to do with how you all burnt women if their husbands died? Like a carried on tradition?
And what's with the effigys? A scarecrow with a picture of Tendulkar's face on it is not.... well I dunno, no idea. And if you're gonna burn effigies of him atleast go through the trouble of getting some more straw and making it as fat as him. If you're gonna do something do it right hey?
RE:While I'm here...
by Pole Star on Oct 18, 2007 02:21 PM Permalink
Hey Chris, I was there in the stadium and booed Symond a lot. You remember in the wadodara onedayer Symonds told that he was charged up by crowd booing and scored a century. Actually we were booing him to charge him up so that we can get the best out of him. But he really disappointed.. Anyway we will try again in the 20-20 on saturday to charge him up I hope we will be able to get the best out of him this time.
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by ByTheWay on Oct 18, 2007 02:30 PM Permalink
Hey Murthy,Star , Why are you wasting time by replying to some Sht postings. this person[chris] doesnt want to understand when someone tries to explain things. its not our prblm if chris is not educated and doesnt have the common sense to understand things as it is. he/she will continue putting some posts with the same matter... leave it.its a gone case.
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by B Ramamurthy on Oct 18, 2007 02:37 PM Permalink
You are absolutely right... This guy chris seems to be unmatured who doesnot want to look into their faults, just blame others... This shows Australians maturity... Impressed....
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by chris on Oct 18, 2007 02:56 PM Permalink
I have no problems admitting Australian's faults, I however do not believe sledging is one of them. I don't believe they have at any point in this series gone too far.
RE:While I'm here...
by Pole Star on Oct 18, 2007 02:37 PM Permalink
It seems u r asking seriously so I will tell. If you try to find anyone in this forum if he/she was involved in such an act of effigy buring you wont find even one. In india everything that happens on streets are politician's inspired. And with 1 billion people you are bound to find some doing odd things, and from there the media takes it on for obvious reasons
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by B Ramamurthy on Oct 18, 2007 02:21 PM Permalink
Mr.Chris, In India people are very much attached to cricket, its just like a religion. I dont think so the height of respect, glory ,money what our Indians provide the Indian team .. the australian cricket team would have never got it from australians. It all depends on how much you are attached to a thing, it may be sports or anything... Iam really surprised you are just making comments on Inidans... hello..... what do you have to say about Cricketer Symonds, he has abused Indians in writing and also he was the one who initiated the fight. So dont you think Australian cricketers are uncultured people.. Well in that case Indians are far better than them... Since Symond abused Indians hence we reacted in that way.. well it is as per Newtons Third law - For Every Action there is an Equal and Oppposite Reaction.
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by terence hollow on Oct 18, 2007 02:27 PM Permalink
Everyone ought to grow up. Cricket is a game, not a religion. It should be played in good spirit and not a viewed as a vehicle for people to adopt a herd mentality and act in less than a generous manner.
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by B Ramamurthy on Oct 18, 2007 02:31 PM Permalink
Well said terence "It should be played in good spirit" Ask your Symond to keep it in mind before abusing Indians. Ask him to behave properly when he is on field, he should behave like a professional circketer not like a fool...
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by terence hollow on Oct 18, 2007 02:39 PM Permalink
Don't jump to conclusions my friend. I live in India and have done for twenty five years. You are judging again. I barrack for India, but I believe in fair play.
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by B Ramamurthy on Oct 18, 2007 02:34 PM Permalink
Well chris, Family you bieng passionate about cricket are two different things. When you are angry on your family member you tend to scream at them or some times slap them when they dont agree.. Do you do the same to your Australian cricketers when they do something wrong ? First of all try to compare things that are worth to be comparable...
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by chris on Oct 18, 2007 02:38 PM Permalink
I did in my first post. I fail to see a link between passion and burning shit or throwing rocks at peoples houses, alot of people are passionate about alot of things but it doesn't result in them turning into pyros. You have failed to provide a link.
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by ByTheWay on Oct 18, 2007 02:31 PM Permalink
Did Sreesanth racially abused Symonds or ponting ? why the hell they were crying foul on him in every press conference ???
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by chris on Oct 18, 2007 02:36 PM Permalink
See response to above post. You ever see an Australian player claim a wicket on a dead ball or clap in an outsed batsmens face, 5 times, when they are the 12th man?
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by chris on Oct 18, 2007 03:01 PM Permalink
Well I doubt you'd find any serious person who'd argue racial abuse is not over the line.
In regards to the other incidents being over the line, yes it is where I define it to be. You can disagree as you wish.
If you believe Sreesanths antics were ok, then fine, I disagree and that's that. However if you think it's the same thing as what the Australian's have done, then you're just wrong.
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by ByTheWay on Oct 18, 2007 03:22 PM Permalink
@Chris - If you cant agree with anything , thats your own prblm buddy..live with it. and also live in your own foolsparadise. Can you pls tell me - when do you decide a ball is dead ?
Sree didnt do what Aussies did, and he never can. and he will never be able to match the rudish , rowdy on/off field behavior of aussies - even if he tries his level best for the next 10 yrs. Symonds,pontings and Haydens are way ahead of him in that matter. When you are at the recvng end of the small dose of your medicine you start crying like a child..kinder garden stuff. in the last ashes shane warne threw a ball straight at peterson's face after the ball was 'dead'. had he not taken reflex action he would have been in the hospital with stiches. its this kind of rude and rowdy attitude which are wrong..and which makes the crowd boo your players on/off field. Indians do respect good players, they will applaud a lara,kallis,sarwan,astle,gilchrist,lee,m&s waughs and even paki players...but not rowdies like symonds. Even though what crowd did[boooing] was bad, but he desrved ever bit of it - you agree or not..it doesnt matter.
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by chris on Oct 18, 2007 02:44 PM Permalink
On the contrary. Have you seen Warne or Mcgrath whilst being the 12th man run up to clap into the face of just outted batsmen, 5 times? No-one minds a good send off, part and parcel of it all.
Sreesanth's behaviour is clearly different on another level and you people will fail to admit it.
No-one minded Irfan's send offs down here 3 summers ago, he had the fire in his belly and that's fine, Sreesanth's actions have been something different, and you people are in a fairy land pretending otherwise.
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by ByTheWay on Oct 18, 2007 02:39 PM Permalink
Your question itself says that you dont watch cricket...have you ever seen warne & mcgrath reacting to outsted batsman. Or are you saying warne & mcgrath are not aussie ?
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by ByTheWay on Oct 18, 2007 02:57 PM Permalink
You will continue saying that all the acts are fair when it suits you. When I told you about warnes & mcgrths gestures on an ousted batsman, in the very next comment you omitted that. wav ! Sree was giving a stare to Haddin and symonds had no business in coming down from the non-striker end to interfere...If dhoni hadnt come in between, umpire would have forced to give him out.
how come you say that all's well when symonds do it and when sree responds in the same way, the its on another level. This is nothing but hypocrisy. if you want to condemn these acts then do it without any bias. sree has never over stepped, its the aus players and your media who ia trying to spread such a perception and putting match officials under undue pressure.
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by Pole Star on Oct 18, 2007 02:54 PM Permalink
Bad behaviour is Bad behaviour, who are you to decide the boundary? And how can you expect what ever boundary you will define people will follow. One thing I will tell you that any West Indian or Srilankan player have ever been booed in india, the reason being their on field behaviour is very good. And the australian teanm has the worst reputation for onfield behaviour. So unless u urself is clean you cannot ask others to be.
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by Pole Star on Oct 18, 2007 03:08 PM Permalink
Thats why i said bad behaviour is bad behaviour. Indians were not the first to start it. Australian started it to distract a person during the match, sreeshant took to a step further to distract your team for the entire series and the crowd support it.
AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!!
It was a gentleman's game, if any team plays like that, there wont be any complain.
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by chris on Oct 18, 2007 03:03 PM Permalink
Now you're being rediculous. I have not ommitted anything here myself on purpose. Throwing down the stumps on a dead ball and claiming a wicket is not the same as giving a 'hard stare'. And the umpire would have given him out? You are dillusional on that, someone can not be run out on a dead ball, no matter how much the appealer jumps up and down like a clown.
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by on Oct 18, 2007 03:19 PM Permalink
this is for the original poster and not all the flaming that is going on in the middle.
to understand the indian mentality, you need to be an indian. the passion and craze for cricket over here is irrational. also, i would put some blame on the media. these ppl who resort to acts like riots, burning, stoning, etc..are doing it more and more today because it gives them their 15 seconds of fame. that is one reason there.
another reason is that indians are horribly emotional. they'll either make or break the team/player. do understand that cricket is the only source of relieving stress for many, so when they feel let down, they act in such a manner.
i dont personally support it but there ya have it. - tanya
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by True Indian on Oct 18, 2007 02:37 PM Permalink
Chris, let me explain to u the our nature and the way we eat/drink cricket. Cricket is more than a sport to us. Its more like a religion. We either love our team when they win (remember the T20 world cup win celebrations) or hate them when they lose (the last world cup lose in WI). Indians are too extreme for u guys to understand. For you guys sports is only a matter of enjoyment, have a beer and njoi the game. For us it is attached to ur life, its a way of distraction frm ur routine life. Its is said that u hate someone only when u love them. Though going overboard in the criticism like burning houses and rioting after we loose doesnt click for me, but thats what happens when u have a large following of the game. Not like in Aus where the fans are distributed between cricket and other sports like aus rugby and football.
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by chris on Oct 18, 2007 02:40 PM Permalink
You seem like a level headed person, and you are of the opinion such behaviour is extreme and doesn't click for you. Fair enough.
RE:While I'm here...
by chris on Oct 18, 2007 02:46 PM Permalink
I thought you deduced that I was a girl, because I sleep with a girl and am Australian, and somehow that automatically made me female.
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by B Ramamurthy on Oct 18, 2007 02:21 PM Permalink
Mr.Chris, In India people are very much attached to cricket, its just like a religion. I dont think so the height of respect, glory ,money what our Indians provide the Indian team .. the australian cricket team would have never got it from australians. It all depends on how much you are attached to a thing, it may be sports or anything... Iam really surprised you are just making comments on Inidans... hello..... what do you have to say about Cricketer Symonds, he has abused Indians in writing and also he was the one who initiated the fight. So dont you think Australian cricketers are uncultured people.. Well in that case Indians are far better than them... Since Symond abused Indians hence we reacted in that way.. well it is as per Newtons Third law - For Every Action there is an Equal and Oppposite Reaction.
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by kapil nautiyal on Oct 18, 2007 03:19 PM Permalink
well said ramamurthy..but when we go to australia and they call sreesanth and bhaaji monkeys...we should accept this too...everyone is lord in their country
