I think we can solve all issues by having 15% reservation for SC, 7.5% for ST, 27% OBC, 33% women, 10% Muslims. The captain should be Muslim and vicecaptain has to be women.
Ex-cricketers who played at least 50 test matches and 100 ODI come forward to save BCCI and INDIAN cricket.
Some mafia and criminal raj is going on in BCCI. Dravid is their obedient soldier and damaging INDIAN cricket. Both BCCI and their spineless soldier do not know/understand abc (basic) of cricket.
RE:Ex-cricketers should control BCCI and save INDIAN cricket
by Suman Bhat on Apr 13, 2007 09:40 AM Permalink
Captai never asked Sachin always get out inside edge onto the pad and clean bowled in a match where he needs to perform.
Captain never asked Saurav to go over the top and play a silly shot where the need of the hour is play sensibly and play more over and get a good century and make the India to win.
Captain never asked Yuvraj to go for a silly run where there is no run and get out.
Captain never asked Dhoni to play back to a ball where you need to come forward and play.
Captain never asked agarkar to bowl full tosses in the final overs so that guys like Arnold and Vas can hit him for fours and sixers.
Captain never asked Harbhajan to concentrate on bowling his 10 overs for only 40 and don%u2019t take any wickets.
Captain never asked Saurav to drop the catch where as Murali in the same catch held on to a very difficult catch. senior players played deliberately negative cricket and betrayed the team Captain never said that. Players, have some Responsibility playing for your country ganguly had big role in early exit from WC ganguly betryed dalmiya ganguly dtiched dravid he can do it any of his chelas also ganguly is selfish, oppertuernist cunning politician
RE:Ex-cricketers should control BCCI and save INDIAN cricket
by on Apr 13, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
Madam Suman "The great and only Ganguly Hater" can u please tell when Ganguly dropped catch? Yuvraj was run out becase of only Dravid, u can refer Prem Panickar's report on that day. What your Captain did in the first two matches? Why he dropped catches (Ref Prem's report)? Don't get biased and at least acknowledge all players' contribution. And, by the way try to contribute towards country's progress instead of searching irrelevant fault of those who are doing something.
RE:Ex-cricketers should control BCCI and save INDIAN cricket
by us on Apr 13, 2007 11:01 AM Permalink
bhai Dravid, you resign from the captaincy immediately and give it to Sachin. I donot want to loose you. bhai, your life is risky in Calcutta and Bangladesh.
In many cases you do not realize that you r perfect worthless. I know you better than anybody. we eat, played and slept together....
RE:Ex-cricketers should control BCCI and save INDIAN cricket
by Akbar Khan on Apr 13, 2007 08:48 AM Permalink
Samath, you were so ready to throw your own filth!
I had written this message a few days ago and I am pleased that other people are of similar opinion. In my opinion, it is a wrong decision by BCCI to control cricketer's personal endorsements. I think that was done to appease the public rather than to improve player's performance. At the end of the day no player would under-perform on purpose as the money they get DEPENDS on their performance!! That is exactly the reason why some players have more endorsements than others because they DESERVED it!! Monetary gain and popularity IS a major reason to perform well no matter what patriotic stuff the public or the players themselves say. Financial gain and publicity is a major drive to perform in any field not just cricket. If you take away or limit or try to control the drive then it might have an adverse effect on the attitude of the players and annoy them as well. I can cite an example here - One of the famous private hospitals put restrictions on the private practice of the doctors they employed (even though it was in their off work time). The result: The doctors became less committed / dedicated to their work and most of the well-established doctors left their jobs. It may not directly apply to the Indian cricketers as their career DEPENDS on BCCI hence this dictatorial attitude from the latter. I suspect the BCCI will eventually go back on this decision or come to a feasible agreement.
RE:I agree with Mr.Gaekwad
by Rman on Apr 13, 2007 03:25 AM Permalink
Your Quote: "Financial gain and publicity is a major drive to perform in any field not just cricket"
I agree with the above, and will add that the reverse also applies - when you don't perform, you face the music. The key word in the quote above is "perform", and I'm sorry, but the Indian Team has no legs to stand on regarding performance. We all saw what they delivered, and it was beyond appalling. No one has a problem with rewarding great performances on the field, in fact, they probably will welcome it. However, people will have serious issues when morons cash in on their status of being "Indian Players" via endorsements, and fail to deliver the goods. This has been the trend in the Indian Team for over almost 2 decades. Hence the result - India has not won a single major one day tournament outside the subcontinent in 20 years. And why will they? When easy money is available, no fool will give his life on the field, including these clowns who think it's their birthright to play for India. They've all gotten too rich and too arrogant. Each one thinks they are stars with their fancy designer Oakley glasses, and the rest of the jaaz. While swimming in all their crores and crores of moolah, they all conveniently forgot one key thing - the game is always bigger than the player...
RE:I agree with Mr.Gaekwad
by glamdring on Apr 13, 2007 08:43 AM Permalink
Agree, these guys are chronic underachievers and their sense of entitlement is baffling. Forget about them being stars, just as people, where is their humility ?
But i think the primary culprit is BCCI. Anything and everything about cricket is monopolized by BCCI, and someone with a basic knowledge of economics would know that monopolies have no reason to improve their products, in this case our cricketers.
I am just hoping that Subash Chandra's idea takes off. When we have teams that are managed in a budget and are striving for profits, we can see some exciting sport and real talent, not these spoilt lot.
For you left-leaning-swadeshi-India-shining brigade, mind you, BCCI themselves have successfully argued in Indian Supreme court that the indian cricket team is playing for BCCI-the organization, and not for India, the country, so its already a mismanaged private company. therefore you public and hence our govt has no business in meddling in their affairs unless you are a cabinet minister who also holds the position of the chairman, in which case you will start to think how to become the head of another bigger mismanaged club, the ICC, even while constituents are committing mass suicides . Well, i have digressed a lot, the bottomline is BCCI is the biggest reason for India's sad state of Cricket, and we the nation of cricket lovers are helpless spectators. Our elected representatives, mainly from Bongland were shreiking for Ganguly's inclusion, while none of them, save Lalu, have given a thought to india's debacle.
Whoever makes cricket reform in their manifesto probably has a good shot in the by-polls.
RE:I agree with Mr.Gaekwad
by satarupa sen on Apr 13, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
And the Bong has averaged 60 plus since his return, won a Man of the Series, was close to winning another and had the highest average among teh Indians in the World Cup. Granted, he could not dominate the bowlers in WC, but at least scored some runs. What did the others do?
RE:I agree with Mr.Gaekwad
by glamdring on Apr 14, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
Yeah, truly big deal, average the stats out for the past 4 years, and then thump your chest with bong pride. Are you guys f**ing real ? Ganguly was a great captain, but he was losing out on his batting for a good 3 years and thats why he was chucked out. He was back to please people like you, true, he performed better than the rest, but the bottomline is rules were bent to get him back in the team. He'll always be the guy who killed the career of some other better younger players. But what do you care, you want your own dada back
RE:I agree with Mr.Gaekwad
by Sudipto Ghosh on Apr 13, 2007 06:52 PM Permalink
Mr.Rman thank you for your feed back and I completely agree with you on that the players are under-performing. But then the BCCI should decide on their cricketing issues not financial ones. If they are not performing then BCCI can drop them from the playing eleven. The issue about endorsements should be left to the companies' products the players are endorsing. If they persistently underperform the players will eventually lose the endorsements.
Endorsement companies and BCCI should pay money to Indian Goverenment to attack SL because this way India will have a good team and less money will be spent. Oh God True but I forgot if we go this route how Sharad Pawar, Dalmiya, Srikant, Ravi Shastri would make money!!!
RE:Endorsement Companies better Sponsor attack on SL
by on Apr 13, 2007 01:53 AM Permalink
It is just a money making business for players and BCCI people .. no one cares about public. Public pay premium on brands Reebok, Nike, Adidas, Videocon, LG ..who sponsor these craps .. so in nutshell its not companies that pay these useless cricketers but its we the Indian Public who pays them ..
Just imagine Tendulkar on the phone with all his sponsorers calling him to shoot commerical ads inbetween the worldcup matches. Your concentration with your job is going to have a toll when you think about how to rip more money from your sponsorers. Tendulkar sure will bounce back from his bad patch. But 2007 cup is gone forever. What is the cause for this? Let them earn how much ever they want from one sponsorer( not even 3, BCCI is still lenient on this). This is because you are playing for your country and not a CLUB!
RE:Gaewad wrong with money!
by TDH on Apr 13, 2007 08:21 AM Permalink
are you saying that if you cut endorsements then India will suddenly start winning (how can anyone ensure this?). your logic is beyond my understanding.players have agents to deal with sponsors, and i don't think they are allowed to go between matches. Ads shoots are done on a players personal time(as in when there is no series or cricket), BCCI is in violation of their (the players) personal rights. As an employee if the players don't meet the standards, by all means kick them out of the team, but i really don't think an employer has any rights to tell them what do off field. I think if BCCI doesn't see sense soon, it will most likley face a lawsuit.
India's performance was abysmal, and i can understand people are very dissapointed, but this is no way to behave. BCCI is simply trying to evade responsibity, why does it not focus on better selection process, better domestic structure, instead of squabling over money.
RE:Gaewad wrong with money!
by Gurmit Singh on Apr 13, 2007 10:29 AM Permalink
All the time people say endorsement is good for the cricketers Is it at the cost of country they sign contract with clause that how minute they spend on crease according to that they will be paid that means player got his booty at expense of country who can tolerate that.Never did it needs to happpen i think BCCI should take decision that they are not restricting player on endorsement but payer should give 60% to BCCI as at cost of them they are playing.If no one agree show them the door and pick other there are crores playing cricket unlike hockey needs of hour is come out of comfort zone that chappel suggested.Lots of raw talent is there moreover when your stomach is full with endorsement than what is need to play for match fees score century or half every 5th /6th match or stay on crease holding one end let india loses n cement your place.Then talk to media i played but team failed
RE:Gaewad wrong with money!
by Joy Raman on Apr 13, 2007 06:44 AM Permalink
What you people dont realize is that you can have the same effect by demanding that they play X number of domestic matches or any other criteria that makes them play. How do you even know if 3 is a low or a hign number! Its a silly decision by BCCI, the goal can be achieved in other ways. Too quick to pull the trigger in my opinion
RE:Don't beat around the Bush.....
by CricketLover on Apr 13, 2007 01:27 AM Permalink
Why not ask GC for results? When he was appointed 2 years ago, he was given a free hand. All he did was experimentation and played around with the batting orders. He destroyed Indian cricket and then blames players for not performing? Why did he change the batting position of Sachin from opener to number 4? GC cleverly used the media to bad mouth the players calling them mafia? So why not start questioning the coach and captain? Dravid is a very unimaginative captain who blindly follwed GCs orders and was a puppet in his hands. Instead of questioning him, the BCCI has offered him a plump post at NCA.
RE:RE:Don't beat around the Bush.....
by glamdring on Apr 13, 2007 09:16 AM Permalink
Well, was he given a free hand ? How about Somnath Chatterjee joined chorus with his fellow commies and screamed for Ganguly's inclusion.
In my opinion, Chappell probably needed a year more to get the team used to his ideas. Experimentation and rotation is not the sole reason of player's lack of confidence, but for Chappell we wouldn't have heard of Suresh Raina, dinesh kartik , Ramesh powar or Sreesanth. True, Sehwag and Pathan lost their form, but haven't we seen that happen to many international players, don't you think its also a player's responsibility to concentrate on his form instead of sulking (Pathan) or getting fat ( Sehwag) . Also, dont you remember him praising the players in the media, are coaches only entitled to say bland platitudes ? Basically desi style chamchagiri(cronyism) is the only virtue of organization like BCCI, and an outsider like GC never really got that context.
11 People out of more than a billion people are not competent against 11 people against country like bangladesh /srilanka. This is a insult to the country and this is not the first time its happening , we are never a consistent bunch of players - i will blame BCCI for not being agrressive enough in concentrating on developing cricket - i bet they are more aggressive in making money. They plan accordingly to conduct a home series (which is the only way india can win or compete against the top 8 test teams)
The changes have to be done from the top level, if indian team is not performing well then not only the coach , captain or the players should be changed, the BCCI Commitee people have to be changed.
First they should plan to make a team which is competent against the world best. The domestic competitions should be very strong. Our mentality towards cricket should also change - players should not be treated as gods.
Players should concentrate on playing the domestic games and the selection to international level should be based purely on domestic games. The players should not go to international games with past experience or records- if the player is not performing well he has to work his back to the team from the domestic level.
RE:Dissolve BCCI and send all the players to there zones
by us on Apr 13, 2007 03:17 AM Permalink
Ex-cricketers who played at least 50 test matches and 100 ODI come forward to save BCCI and INDIAN cricket.
Some mafia and criminal raj is going on in BCCI. Dravid is their obedient soldier and damaging INDIAN cricket. Both BCCI and their spineless soldier do not know/understand abc (basic) of cricket.
who do u think responsible for the BCCI decision? Its neither BCCI nor US. its the Players. This wouldnt have happened,had they performed well in the world cup. They deserve to get punished.
When a man, often compared with Bradman, has nothing to show in critical matches and the selectors treat him as a holy cow? Someone who quarrels with his captain because of a declaration that prevented him from reaching a personal milestone?
RE:Our performance, wasn't it silly Mr Gaekwad?
by ANAND B on Apr 12, 2007 10:48 PM Permalink
Now dont get started on the declaration. Any one for that matter will feel despondent and angry. If Bradman had himself been subject to this I am sure he would have reacted the same. The declaration could have easily waited for 6 - 10 runs. There was no hurry.
RE:Our performance, wasn't it silly Mr Gaekwad?
by SAIANAND SRINIVASAN on Apr 12, 2007 10:42 PM Permalink
Whats ur subject title and what are you trying to actually say in the message? Arent you silly?
Yes, Sachin is a holy cow. So what? Without Sachin, Team India wouldnt be the same team that commands respect from the opposition and wouldnt be the team that demands so much media hype, so much commercial success, etc. Agree or not, he is one of the reasons behind India being such a popular cricket nation!
And his performances havent been too bad to sack him. He can be rested and asked to play some domestic cricket to regain his mental composure. But he should never be sacked in his entire career!
RE:Our performance, wasn't it silly Mr Gaekwad?
by glamdring on Apr 13, 2007 09:52 AM Permalink
Well said, though I am not sure if what Dravid did was right ( to declare when Sachin was at 199).
RE:Our performance, wasn't it silly Mr Gaekwad?
by Ramelton Pandya on Apr 12, 2007 11:19 PM Permalink
You are just lunatic. Go back to elementary school. Learn how to count. Then count the matches that Sachin has won for Inida and the ones that he has not. Also count when his work was undone by others. Why do i bother!!!!! To hell with your kind of thinling. Sachin is the best after Bradman and Period.
RE:Our performance, wasn't it silly Mr Gaekwad?
by Bharath Bharath on Apr 13, 2007 03:05 AM Permalink
It has become a passion to criticize Sachin. If those such mindless people go to hell, hell will also be ashamed. Cricket is played by 11 people, and it is a team game. Let us say Tendulkar scored zero. What the hell the other 10 great people are doing?
RE:Our performance, wasn't it silly Mr Gaekwad?
by karan on Apr 13, 2007 05:08 AM Permalink
baki bhi nikamme hai...but yeh sachin to maha nikamma hai, isko to nikalo pehle...In a company 1 cannot give excuse of not doing his job as other 10 not doing... nikalo budhe ko...
Indian fans are basically hypocritic and thats why we see the notion of cricketers are spoilt because they earn too much money.
- Put yourself in the cricketer's shoes, will you turn-down an advertisement if they pay you big money? - Cricketers dont play until retirement age, they play only until max 37. Some go down much before that. They need to make the maximum in that time. - There is nothing called "too much money". - Finally this is a democratic country (theoretically atleast), nobody has any right to say how much others can or cannot earn. - If you dont like it, dont watch cricket, dont buy the endorsed products. BUT PLEASE DONT CRIB THAT OTHERS ARE MAKING TOO MUCH MONEY; You would definitely do that if given a chance. - Players playing for India is only circumstantial; They are employed by BCCI, trained by BCCI and play for BCCI. - Fans are just non-influential stockholders of a non-public unlisted company called BCCI. Period.
