People who are blaming Goan people and police are fools and probably don't know much about Goa. There are two types of people who come to Goa, those who are genuinely looking for an enjoyable holiday destination with colourful beaches and the others looking for cheap thrills. I am not saying all but most of the foreign tourists belong to the later category. Goa has a reputation as a drug heaven since the hippy movement started in late sixties. Its is these foreigners who corrupted Goa and made a bad name for this beautiful state. Especially people like the victim, I am sure she and her family came here with full knowledge about Goa's reputation as a dope heaven.
The mother made a mistake of thinking we are civilized people, like the ones she finds in her country. she was clearly mistaken. that was her only fault.
RE:those idiots who blame her mother
by Joaquim DaSilva on Mar 08, 2008 05:18 AM Permalink
Do you think it is civilised to allow your 15 your old child to consume drugs?
Do you think it is civilised to allow your 15 year old child to be sexually active?
Do you think it is civilised to leave your 15 year old child all alone in an unknown and dangerous place?
If that is your definition of being civilised then I would prefer to remain an uncivilised savage all my life.
Read the article in the UK newspaper Daily Mail where the mother says she is not to blame. She talks about knowing her daughters lifestyle and yet defends herself leaving a 15 year old in Goa and going with the rest of her family to some place in Karnataka.
She says that in England that is the way that things are done, 15-16 year olds are mature and can have sex. She knew her daughter used to smoke cannabis and now she is blaming the drug mafia for killing her.
I feel sorry for a young person dying, but for the mother to plead such innocence shows her extreme irresponsibility in raising her children and absolute lack of awareness about the world by thinking that behaviour acceptable in England is also acceptable in India.
RE:The mother is also to blame
by stav on Mar 08, 2008 04:20 AM Permalink
The mother made a mistake of thinking we are civilized people, like the ones she finds in her country. she was clearly mistaken. that was her only fault.
RE:The mother is also to blame
by Joaquim DaSilva on Mar 08, 2008 05:08 AM Permalink
@ nitin/divya prakash/stav:
Before you go about calling me sick or calling my home town uncivilised, here are some points to think about.
Would you leave your child all alone in a place that was known as a hotbed for the drug trade? I myself am from Goa, and my parents never let me go to Anjuna when I was a child because it was not safe. How can you allow your child to live alone to a dangerous place?
I do not condone rape or murder and if anyone has truly raped or killed the girl then I hope they get the death penalty. But the mother is also at fault for leaving her 15 year old child all alone somewhere that is known to be unsafe.
If you automatically assume that leaving a sexually active and drug using minor alone in India is safe because it is safe to do so in Britain then you are a stupid fool and should not be allowed to raise children.
RE:The mother is also to blame
by bdc dca on Mar 08, 2008 06:09 PM Permalink
why was she even being served alcohol , doent goa have a legal limit ?evidently not as I have myself seen young girls smoking and derinking in pubs and bars , girls whose age i definately are undeage, no one in goa asks for AGE proof and this should be implemented
RE:The mother is also to blame
by raj sreedhar on Mar 07, 2008 09:35 PM Permalink
Stop accusing mother and the rest. It is our duty to investigate the crime. Her up bringing is not the issue here. Issue is Goa police is back peddaling the case. Think this other way around.
RE:The mother is also to blame
by Joaquim DaSilva on Mar 07, 2008 10:58 PM Permalink
An irresponsible parent is accusing the world of killing her child without considering that her child could have done something wrong.
She speaks of rape charges, she knew her daughter had sexual relations in England as well as with the tour guide. Is it so unthinkable that she had sex willingly with someone that night?
The mother knew that her daughter used to occasionally smoke cannabis, is it so unthinkable that the girl was intoxicated and actually just drowned?
I can understand that a woman is in grief of losing her 15 year old daughter and is reacting like every human would, but is it so unthinkable that the girl could have just lost her senses due to drugs/alcohol and drowned at sea?
Also the question has to arise why was the mother not protecting her child from going to an extremely notorious area?
How much sympathy would a person have if they willingly left their young child on a railway track and then cried that the engine driver murdered her child?
RE:The mother is also to blame
by nitin on Mar 07, 2008 11:45 PM Permalink
Joaquim, it certainly needs to be made sure that there was no foul play in this murder. I can understand her mother's concern.
If someone raped and killed her, it is not something like leaving someone on the railway track and blaming the engine driver.
Also having concentual sex with a minor is considered statutory rape, is it not?
RE:The mother is also to blame
by divya prakash on Mar 08, 2008 03:58 AM Permalink
I guess you are also from the school of thought that if someone is dressed in a mini skirt they are eligible for rape. You are sick, Joaquim. The lifestyle of a person in now way condones rape/murder.
Folks! I think we must empathies & sympathies with the family for their loss. It is not upon us to make assumptions and allegations without knowing the facts. This incident is unfortunate and no matter what we do it cannot be reversed. But what we can do is to hope and pray that justice is met and her soul rests in peace.
Its no point to blame anyone...Its a real shame for the local police who are not trying thier best to resolve this case ..this shows what law and order goa has
RE:Big Shame
by Joaquim DaSilva on Mar 07, 2008 09:12 PM Permalink
The mother has said she knew about her daughter's sex and drugs lifestyle in the UK and it does not bother her. Why is she surprised that a person with such morals got involved with drug peddlers in Goa?
Why was the mother in Karnataka leaving her daughter alone in Goa with a tour guide? Is it not irresponsible behaviour by the parent?
If anyone she should blame herself and her parenting methods.
RE:Big Shame
by nitin on Mar 07, 2008 11:49 PM Permalink
Joaquim, Bad parenting is not same as raping and killing someone. We need to make sure if this was just drowning or rape/murder as the mother describes.
RE:LET GOA GOVERNMENT SCRAP ALCOHOL AND CLUBS FROM GOA
by Shiv Sena on Mar 07, 2008 06:26 PM Permalink
you ISMAIL moron, you are the one who is creating a very bad image of india in the world..Clear your image first..
RE:LET GOA GOVERNMENT SCRAP ALCOHOL AND CLUBS FROM GOA
by raj sreedhar on Mar 07, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
ISMAIL, Please dont talk about impression. We can plenty to talk about. Dont go there. We dont want to get embarassed ourself.
RE:LET GOA GOVERNMENT SCRAP ALCOHOL AND CLUBS FROM GOA
by Sharad on Mar 07, 2008 03:19 PM Permalink
I hope your loved one does not go to foreign country and meets with a mishap. Don't be so heartless and frivolous with your statement.
