Mr pM why dont u instead of sulking stand up and answer in black n white for each of these questions.
instead asking indians to believe you /trust u ( as if u r god) u make a rational logical explanation then if it is good for india we shd sign otherwise throw in the dustbin. so dont take it personal india is important than 1000 deals like this and we will survive and be succesful then u go on doing what u have done till now- being a male servant of sonia
This deal is Dr Singh's baby whose midwife is Sonia Gandhi (or is it the other way round). I find it hard that Dr Singh, the clever man he is supposed to be, swears by the proposed deal. It just goes to show that some clever Indians can never get over the attitude of servility built into their genes. Though Dr Singh is the stopgap PM until one or other of the Gandhi's can grow into his shoes, it is less apparent what has made him the doormat for the American nuclear ayatollahs. My finger points naturally to Sonia Gandhi. Bharat had suffered all manner of indignities in its 1,000 years of servitude to foreign rule and domination. But one principle remained intact that Bharat's history had laid it down that the supreme authority in the country would not reside in any foreign person. This is the same principle that Nehru himself had reaffirmed in decisions he made. Yet as the puppet master of the UPA, that is the power Sonia Gandhi has been exercising over the GOI.
If the deal is half as bad as the scientists have described it, it is a Frankenstein monster the country could do without.
Bharat no doubt wants to secure a strong partnership with America. It should not have to take the scientists to have to advise the PM and the country on the implications of American policy and law. His Minister's attempted deception and the American's cheap tricks have not impressed, nor the PM's offer of resignation. The country would suffer no loss and be glad of it.
RE:Please resign Sir!
by IndiaForce India on Jul 04, 2008 02:45 AM Permalink
The sradra is not indispenable.Earl;ier he is thrown out the better for country.he has damaged indian economy, social security,communla harmony enough and has divided country into caste and resrvations and prices are killing which have nothing to do with global developments as made out by corrupt media on his behalf.Mr man mohan leave before we kick you out for the good.How long will you be liabaility on us?go rest.
RE:The deal is loss making for merchants of muslim votes
by Dipak Bose on Jun 24, 2008 05:48 PM Permalink
Whether Muslims or CPI(M) are against it, does not matter. What matters is the security of the country from nuclear attacks by China and Pakistan and India's freedom to develop nuclear energy freely without being a slave of USA which since 1974 did everything to prevent India from developing nuclear energy. One should never trust USA.
RE:The deal is loss making for merchants of muslim votes
by Dipak Bose on Jun 24, 2008 03:37 PM Permalink
123 Deal is the same as NPT. You cannot have nuclear weapons if you sign it. This is the reason USA is pushing India so hard.
RE:The deal is loss making for merchants of muslim votes
by satyarthi on Jun 24, 2008 03:44 PM Permalink
The deal in its present form is dead. The merits and demerits of the deal have already been discussed long back. The present 'drama' has nothing to do with the deal. it is just posturing of political partners towards muslim votes before general elections. Both the parties cong and left are working in tandem. Let us not befooled.
RE:RE:The deal is loss making for merchants of muslim votes
by satyarthi on Jun 24, 2008 03:52 PM Permalink
The 'old man' has become suddenly 'emotional', and refusing to attend G-8 summit. He realised after four years that Sonia Gandhi 'misused' him for political purpose. In fact, congress and left have been trying that forthcoming general election be fought on some 'communal agenda' than issue of price rise and misgovernance. The M-factor associated with the deal makes it a 'perfect' issue for them to say - 'DEKHO HAMNE DEAL SIGN NAHI KIYA/ HONE DIYA. HUM AAPKE HAMDARD HAI, AAP KI ICCHA KE KHILAPH HUM KABHI NAHI JAYENGE', and like that.
RE:The deal is loss making for merchants of muslim votes
by satyarthi on Jun 24, 2008 03:55 PM Permalink
Left will not withdraw support: Bardhan June 24, 2008 15:23 IST
RE:Left, beware! When you begin to sleep, MMS will take his working tools again. Nobody is there to save Indian poor. BJP and Advani roaming around Congress! read more at sahadevan.wordpress.com
by satyarthi on Jun 24, 2008 03:17 PM Permalink
N Deal is anti muslim, says CPM. What else India wants to hear. Merchants of muslim votes cannot be a party to 'this deal'.
RE:Left, beware! When you begin to sleep, MMS will take his working tools again. Nobody is there to save Indian poor. BJP and Advani roaming around Congress! read more at sahadevan.wordpress.com
by ralph nader on Jun 24, 2008 03:23 PM Permalink
SKK what are you trying to convey?
RE:Left, beware! When you begin to sleep, MMS will take his working tools again. Nobody is there to save Indian poor. BJP and Advani roaming around Congress! read more at sahadevan.wordpress.com
by satyarthi on Jun 24, 2008 03:56 PM Permalink
June 24, 2008 15:23 IST Left will not withdraw support: Bardhan
RE:Trust US or Iran/Pakistan
by deadly boy on Jun 24, 2008 03:43 PM Permalink
good question! gut feel says neither of them... there is nothing like less trust or more trust... it needs to be just broken once to be broken forever... we need innovators and the cream of our scientific talent in our own indigenous nuclear program... for this there needs to pure competitive selection of talent who are governed by a competent high powered body without political intervention... give them freedon and the same money that is being spent on this deal... see the results... there would be hardships in this path but then nothing comes for free... for all this to work you need leadership which can take brave decisions for the sake of the country and it's future... sadly history says that all this never happened in democracy... china can do it... russia could do it coz there a dedicated set of people are taking hard decisions thinking about the country and it's future.. it cannot happen in India... not even the communist ruled states... coz they are hippocrates and no better than other political parties...
RE:N Deal is anti muslim, says CPM
by Dipak Bose on Jun 24, 2008 05:47 PM Permalink
That is not the issue. Whether Muslims or CPI(M) are against it, does not matter. What matters is the security of the country from nuclear attacks by China and Pakistan and India's freedom to develop nuclear energy freely without being a slave of USA which since 1974 did everything to prevent India from developing nuclear energy. One should never trust USA.
RE:N Deal is anti muslim, says CPM
by mahabodhi on Jun 25, 2008 09:52 PM Permalink
@satayrthi Congress tacitly supported the demolition of destruction of disputed site -Babri Masjid-!It was total rewsponsible for the Babri Demoiltion !PVR Narsimha Rao was PM and even MMS was a cabinet minister int that ministry !With out Congress support the disputed site could never have been destroyed !This fact is even acknowledged by here some mebers who r BJP supporters but blame Congress for Destruction of disputed site !But even then the BJP supporters who want a temple -and Even Congress also allowed a construction of temple there -which still exists -is there ! But BJP supporters never voted for Congress and congress is now dwindling !So to say that conred is for Muslims votes only is misnomer !The fact is by wrting this you aree encouraging communilism of and support for BJP -which even failed to construct even a Temple for which they got support and votes !The BJP has proven that oit is aprty of traders that's why encouraging imports from china though it is even against Indian industries !Ask ur inner self !Even congress durimg independance days was considered antimuslim party sopecially when Gandhi domniated it and Jinnah a gujarati muslim -also a barrister - and member of comgress-left it - as he felt threatened by Gandhi influence and though a not so fanatic muslim -as LK advani wrote in Visitor book in pakistan - left congress- and became paranoid of Gandhi and his views !Gandhi was paddling in both boats -so when his RSS supporters saw that he failed to uni
RE:RE:N Deal is anti muslim, says CPM
by mahabodhi on Jun 25, 2008 09:54 PM Permalink
-also a barrister - and member of comgress-left it - as he felt threatened by Gandhi influence and though a not so fanatic muslim -as LK advani wrote in Visitor book in pakistan - left congress- and became paranoid of Gandhi and his views !Gandhi was paddling in both boats -so when his RSS supporters saw that he failed to unite Akhand Bharat - nad still was pressing for 55 croroes to be given to [pakistan as was agreed and Goverm,ent of India under Nehru was not giving -as it feared that Jinnah Pakis will use it for using the money in war in Kashmir were not ready to give 55 crores to [pakistan !So Confused Gandhi sat on satyagrah and then the RSS got irritated and rest is history !After 60 years of freedom now there r groups that again want to divide the nation in communal agenda but the route in present modern world is diiferent !The Un can partitioned Indinesia -East Timor - and any misadventure in India can play havoc with Indian context !Gandhi as most RSS will say at trhe time was confused now we can say that RSS is confused ! When you write that Conred r for muslims vote then who is for majority votes 1And hv they not been power for six years !What they id was Enron when in power for 13 DAYS ! now the world is ruled by Americans who r giuded by British as they hv been master in Imperilist power politics! There can be many ways to describe the politicall context here of the political scenario in preasent India !but considering all factors that Congress tacitly supporte
RE:RE:RE:N Deal is anti muslim, says CPM
by mahabodhi on Jun 25, 2008 09:55 PM Permalink
now the world is ruled by Americans who r giuded by British as they hv been master in Imperilist power politics! There can be many ways to describe the politicall context here of the political scenario in preasent India !but considering all factors that Congress tacitly supported and allowed to built temple in place of disputed site while army ensured on Congress Govt. orders to see it through the die hard Communal and traders did not vote Congress!So for a party which preaches communilism -as say you write-give 100% resrvation to muslims !As is being done here in Rediff by many !What it means !It means to arouse passions among Hindus !But the end game will be what you and ur leaders can not dream !It is time that Indianness be promoted !I can go and on but those who want to loot Indians woith just rhetoric of communal agenda and r traders party only want party !so who is to credited with Babri Demploition !Ask yopurself and aNSWER IF U WANT !
1) This 123 Deal is against the interest of the country and we do not need it. 2) If we want Nuclear plants, we can get it from Russia along with fuels. There is no need to beg Fuels from Australia or USA and give up India's nuclear weapons. 3) India has enough natural uranium and the technology to create nuclear fuel. 4) !"£ Deal is the same as NPT. You cannot have nuclear weapons if you sign it. This is the reason USA is pushing India so hard. When was exactly USA interested in India's needs??? Never. For the last 60 years USa stood against India. USA is a NATO ally of Pakistan and allowed China since 1972 to have every lethal weapons via Israel, France,and Germany. Now it is so concerned about India's energy needs. It has sent ENRON a few years ago to rob India. It has sent UNION CARBIDE to kill Indians. Now USA wants to take away India's nuclear weapons and stop all research & development efforts for nuclear energy.
Vajpayee tried a lot, what had he got? Colin Powell came to India to declare Pakistan is the NATO ally of USA.
The coal and hydro based plants are either outdated or non-functional thanks to successive govts of ALL parties and there is acute shortage of skilled engineers to build and operate such plants. Further, they have a huge environmental and social cost. As if this was not enough, contracts are being awarded to Chinese companies for sub-standard equipments and to farji cos like reliance power who have not even seen the plant site. This is going on for last 18 years. All state EBs will be dead in next 2-5 yrs and then we can discuss over midnight flame on IT and manufacturing growth and blah blah. One who is deprived knows how it comes as a curse, we need power and we know its going to be costly every passing day. This msg cud not be posted if some people had not given their lives and family for building the power sector over last 40 years. Its no longer a political issue, its damn serious for India and if no affirmative action is taken, we are in for disaster.
Dr. Man Mohan singh is a scholar with global vision who feels that in the long term there is a lot of scope for improving our relationship with various countries including USA china pakistan australia UK france soudi arabia russia after getting a green signal from USA while improving our relationship with USA in a multistrategic deal which signifies more than a deal if we go historically after 1974 /1998-2008 scenario but the experiences of indian people scientist and other target groups does not support such a deal which should be more development oriented than having commercial approach which gives a different message to the political parties having a different mindset making them insecured while finalising the deal
