RE:CAN YOU NAME ONE BJP OR CPM LEADER WHO IS PREOFESSIONALLY SUCESSFULL IN LIFE
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 04:24 AM Permalink
I would be surprised if Manmohan Singh's children are still living with him ... LOL
RE:CAN YOU NAME ONE BJP OR CPM LEADER WHO IS PREOFESSIONALLY SUCESSFULL IN LIFE
by Albert Adibadla on Jun 20, 2008 04:25 AM Permalink
THEY ARE AS SUCCESSFUL AS HIM AS WELL. UNLIKE PRAMOD MAHAJAN SON RAHUL MAHAJAN WHO WAS SPENDING 15000 RUPPES PER DAY ON DRUGS (OF BRIBE MONEY TAKEN FROM COMMON MAN)
RE:CAN YOU NAME ONE BJP OR CPM LEADER WHO IS PREOFESSIONALLY SUCESSFULL IN LIFE
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 04:32 AM Permalink
Pramod Mahajan should have been in the congress ... he would have learnt the value of keeping money in swiss accounts
RE:CAN YOU NAME ONE BJP OR CPM LEADER WHO IS PREOFESSIONALLY SUCESSFULL IN LIFE
by Albert Adibadla on Jun 20, 2008 04:34 AM Permalink
HE LEARNED THE BJP WAY -- DRUG, WOMEN, GANGS, MAFIA AND BOOZE....
RE:OLD AND MAD BJP AND CPM LEADERS - PLEASE RETIRE
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 04:24 AM Permalink
but who is that successful new genration? and what if they too support BJP and CPIM?
RE:OLD AND MAD BJP AND CPM LEADERS - PLEASE RETIRE
by Albert Adibadla on Jun 20, 2008 04:27 AM Permalink
PEOPLE WHO ARE LESS THAN 45 YEARS.. IF THEY SUPPORT BJP OR CPM - PITY ON THEM -- THEY DO NOT KNOW THESE MAD MEN..
RE:OLD AND MAD BJP AND CPM LEADERS - PLEASE RETIRE
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 04:33 AM Permalink
yes, but that's just your opinion and in a democracy, your opinion counts as one vote ... that too if you are willing to stand in line for 2 hours ... LOL
RE:OLD AND MAD BJP AND CPM LEADERS - PLEASE RETIRE
by mohan krishnan on Jun 20, 2008 08:16 AM Permalink
in USA Regan(u remember) became president at age of 70. leave that the present nominee John Mc Cain is 72 from Republican.
With the fossil fuel getting scarce & expensive by the day, it is imperative for countries to start looking for alternative resources to meet the ever increasing demand for Power. Nuclear Power Stations is one of them. I must salute the visionaries to have thought about it and being successful in striking a deal with the US. MMS leads that pack. I believe the other policitical parties are sheer jealous of having Congress taking the credit. As far as Left is concerned the lesser said the better. I wonder when was the last time they thought about the country!
RE:Trust Politicians to not let India Progress
by SANJAY GUHATHAKURTA on Jun 20, 2008 04:42 AM Permalink
Mr./Ms.Shukla, firstly how much do YOU think about the country? And secondly, how much do you know about the nuclear deal before you make the conclusion? You think that signing the nuclear deal will solve India's problems? Wrong. It will solve US's problems than ours. And its quite clear to see. However, the US isn't going to gain much by letting India nuclear fuel. The bigger picture is that US wants to CONTROL India's nuclear resources. Just like they do to Kuwait or Iraq. Maybe not in such a crude manner, but in one way or the other.
If the nuclear deal was so simple and India benefiting right and left, there would have been no complications at all. But unfortunately its more complex than you realise, Mr./Ms.Shukla.
RE:Trust Politicians to not let India Progress
by SANJAY GUHATHAKURTA on Jun 20, 2008 04:52 AM Permalink
Kyon re? Tere baap ne tujhe uska naam lene se mana kiya hai?
RE:Trust Politicians to not let India Progress
by SANJAY GUHATHAKURTA on Jun 20, 2008 04:48 AM Permalink
Hey shark. At least I don't use a pseudonym like you.
RE:Trust Politicians to not let India Progress
by All Right on Jun 20, 2008 03:59 AM Permalink
I don't think any visionaries have struck any deals with the US...
It's the US which is down on its knees "begging" India to buy N-fuel..... so destpite this drama / circus from Congress they are giving zillion leases of life,.. including the latest one where they have deferred decision till Jan' 09...
BTW Mr./Ms. Bharvi, if everything is so hunky dory, what stops MMS and Sonia from going ahead and signing the deal?... who has handcuffed them?
RE:Trust Politicians to not let India Progress
by gatzzz on Jun 20, 2008 04:20 AM Permalink
I think you don't have your facts straightened out. You probably don't even have a clue to the reason for this N-deal and the circumstances in which it was initiated. It was a mutual initiation between India and US and Mr Manmohan Singh had played a critical role in getting this deal to where it is now.
US doesn't has a need to beg India for anything. They have an economy which is 5 times the size of India. They have huge natural resources, best technology and are an emminent superpower in the current world. They have their own interests giving India this priviledge and India has its own. It is a win-win situation for both the countries. India is not a third world country anymore to be a slave to any other country. It is a major force in the world and will continue to be. No other country wants a bad relation with India (except for our dear old neighbours from ages).
With US lifting off the sanctions, India is free to purchase technology and fuel from whereever it likes to do. This is evident from the fact that the top fission tech manufacturers from France and Russia have already made numerous trips to India to get us swayed to them.
Next Congress is not doing any circus. It is the left doing all the circus trying to stick to their age old ideology and fundamentalism. With this globalized world, I seriously don't see any base to their principles. China, the largest communist country has already started opening up lot of its economy to survive in the new world.
RE:Trust Politicians to not let India Progress
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 04:20 AM Permalink
tereko answer diya naa .... tujhe samajh naheen aata toh hindi mein bataoon kyaa?
abhee communist ko kyaa kehte hein patta naheen ... shayad aatankwadi party kehte hein .... toh abhee jo aatankwaadi party ke support se sarkar tiki hai woh girr jayegi ... isliye sarkar bachaye yaa nuclear deal sign kare isme duvidha hai ... abhee manmohan singh bolte hein ke deal sign karo naheen to mein tyaagpatra (resignation) deta hoon .... waise bhee sarkaar jyaada time chalne kee naheen
waise kuchh hoga naheen .... yeh resignation kee dhamkee america ko dikhane ke liye hai ... kee mai toh kursi bhee chhoad raha that lekin ye aatankwadi party support naheen kurr rahee ... isliye maaf karo ... agle saal nayee sarkaar se nayee baat karna .... with a clean slate.
SHAME ON BJP...WHO DO NOT WANT TO SUPPORT GOVT ON NUCLEAR DEAL..SHAME ADVANI SHAME..BJP IS WORST THAN LEFT ...ATLEAST THEY OPENLY SUPPORT COMMUNISTS ACCROSS BORDER..BUT THESE NUT CASES SUPPORT INDIAN ENEMIES while calling themselves patriotic and Hindu savers..
First feel ashamed as hell at how MMS a sikh, is serving an Italian lady like a "made-servant"!
And then consider this:
Just a couple of days back, some members of the great Sikh community went on a rampage in MTV offices in Mumbai over the outrageous posters offending the Sikh community!
I wonder how a proud community like this is able to stomach this ongoing, daily humiliation of a Sikh man at the feet of an Italian lady?
I guess, among many other things and their bearings, the Sikhs have got their priorities all mixed up!
RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by gurpreet sidhu on Jun 20, 2008 05:07 AM Permalink
well my friend thanks for for showing your concern for sikhs community, for sikhs know their priorities that no one needs to remind them, it is these petty polticians who are messing up the things, for the sikhs they have always stood up for this nation and defended it( history is the proof).But unfortunatly they always have been back stabbed by these bloody congress walas, who has done more harm to this nation than any body else. come next general elections we all should give them a mother of all boots and save india from further mess by these congress walas.
RE:RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 03:42 AM Permalink
ha ha ha .... Manmohan Singh is very respected by Sonia Gandhi .... she considers him to be congress saviour ... no wonder MMS is still the PM.
RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 04:22 AM Permalink
true ... she doesn't want another narsimha rao to take over while rahul is still growing up.
RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by gatzzz on Jun 20, 2008 03:38 AM Permalink
I don't think Mr Manmohan Singh is serving the Italian lady. She is the chairman of the congress party and is responsible for holding the party together and takes important decisions for the future of the party. She has been democratically elected as their Chairman of the party.
Keeping her nationality, character, everything else aside; Ms Sonia Gandhi is not so qualified to tell Mr Manmohan Singh on what to do being a PM. Being the Chairman of the Congress party, she would be lobbying for the party interest while Mr Manmohan Singh takes decisions. The main reason for him being chosen as the Prime Minister is because of the unabated respect he carries within the party and across the nation. The selection of Mr Chidambaram as the Finance Minister is the role played by Mr Manmohan Singh himself.
All in all, Mr Manmohan Singh has a job to do and is doing that. Sonia Gandhi's keen interest is making sure the party is reelected and lasts the full term. Both of them are playing their part in this huge crutial decision for the nation.
I pretty well know that Nuclear deal is for the good of the nation and it has to be done ASAP. But B*tching about that would do any good. We being the citizens of this democratic country have a critical role to play. We pretty well know what is good for us and our country and thus can make our decision exercised when the next poll comes. If you want to teach a lesson, tech when you get the power coming season of elections.
RE:RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 03:43 AM Permalink
I totally agree with you .... but don't expect these RSS chadiwallas to understand .... those who take pride in killing the Mahatma can never be patriotic Indians anyways.
RE:RE:RE:RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 04:11 AM Permalink
no one has taken any pride in killing of sikhs ... the bad congress MPs have been taken action against.
but, you probabbly haven't heard of the nanavati commission either .. LOL
RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by peter Ska on Jun 20, 2008 03:19 AM Permalink
well , has MMs approached BJP in a constructive way. Never. Has he intended to take the opposition into confidence , NO..Has Manu ever briefed the leader of opposition on N-deal--NO.. Then how BJP will support.
Has he convened an all-party meeting on such a isse of national importance..I dont know.
Definitely cong has never acted democratically on N-deal. They wanted to hijack all credits, but thanks to commies, they prod u to think why, whats in the deal?
Let hope we are well informed abt the deal by the govt..
RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by Rahul on Jun 20, 2008 04:22 AM Permalink
I will make a note that congress update peter Ska the next time to discuss on this issue. Seriously, we Indians make a lot of assumptions before opening our.......
RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 03:40 AM Permalink
there have been several meeting with BJP leadership on the nuclear issue ... even US delegations have met Advani and other BJP leaders on the nuclear deal ... so, it is wrong to say that they haven't been approached in a constructive way .... no, don't expect sonia and Manmohan singh to fall to advani's feet and beg him to save the country ...
I think BJP is playing partisan politics with the nuclear deal, but in their own self interest, they must ... afterall what is more important to advani? chance to be the next PM or India having a nuclear programme.
Right now BJP is focussed on the Lok sabha elections and current political and economic situation favors them over the incumbent.
RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by peter Ska on Jun 20, 2008 04:39 AM Permalink
guys dont get freak out, there has nothing been done by cong to get a consensus. All always read that cong fighting with commies to get the bill passed..i am not sure when there are several meetings of cong with bjp leadership...
In this issue Bjp is not in the picture, let alone play partisan politics. I think its cong who is trying to corner bjp and therefore desperately seeking commies support.
In democracy, its not necessary that MMS fall at the feet on advani, but they should take all into confidence.. Completly aware the general public about the deal. They shd not shy away, for the greater interest on the nation.
RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 04:09 AM Permalink
the commies! you don't get the news do you? I mean this whole thing has been going on for so long now that one would imagine that you are understanding what's going on.
If MMS signs the deal, the commies could withdraw support and the govt. would come down crashing.
RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by All Right on Jun 20, 2008 03:25 AM Permalink
That's precisely what you'll get when you install a dummy PM, who has no say in party matters.
He has to "request" the Party President ( :-) :-) to please somehow convince his party members that he is a good guy... :-)
But you are fine.... go on an curse the BJP.. you're doing just fine... and that's about all you can do... :-)
RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 03:48 AM Permalink
dummy PM, I agree, but that wans't an easy choice when you have to run a coalition. you cannot just make anyone the PM, that person has to be acceptable to the coalition.
with whatever coalition congress party has, from parties that opposed them right before the election, I think Manmohan Singh has done a great job.
RE:RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by All Right on Jun 20, 2008 04:02 AM Permalink
Yeah.. except for the fact that inexplicably he has found his hands tied when it comes to signing the N-deal he so seems to like.... I mean that's what he shows to the external world anyways....
RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by CatchTwentyTwo on Jun 20, 2008 04:38 AM Permalink
There is no reason to bring in sikh sentiment or foreign national status or hindu muslim riots or whatever else into this. The topic is this: NUCLEAR DEAL WITH THE US... yes/no?
"All Right", please answer whether you want India to sign the deal or not... IF yes, please voice your opinion why. If no, please do the same.
Why do we need it? Becuase we need to build as many nuclear reactors to generate as much energy as possible to support our country and we need to also find ways to dispose off the nuclear waste without running into major mishaps that other countries have faced (3 mile/chernobyl)... perhaps we are smarter than them to avoid such incidents but what is wrong in collaborating, even co-operating to avert such dangers, to learn from the knowledge of their experience... to perhaps even teach them some... ;)
Why dont we need it? Becuase it caps our military nuclear program and opens up our capacity and capability to the world. Nobody knows today where we stand... All they have is an estimate. Once you let people in, they will know!
What I think, the UPA is saying is that they trust the scientists and they think that India has done a GREAT job in getting to where we are and that our military technology will suffice for the need of deterrance. Whether that is true or not is debatable but we need the energy and no country as advanced as the US is stupid enough to start a nuclear war and we may just have enough to deter that as well. So we should sign the deal
RE:RE:RE:SHAME ADVANI SHAME
by Loan Shark on Jun 20, 2008 04:14 AM Permalink
what do you wanna show the external world? that the PM is from a party which has only 150/542 LS seats ... when you have less than a third LS seats, is it any wonder that the govt. is functioning?
why didn't BJP form a coalition with 130 seats? because they knew that it would be impossible to run a govt. ... then what was the other choice ... another round of election.
you talk as if you are not familiar with the political situation in India!
HE SAYS THIS AT THE END OF HIS TERM ! WHY NOW ? HE SHOULD HAVE SHOWN THIS CONCERN MUCH EARLIER. HE IS INDEED A GUTTSLESS PM. HE TALKED A LOT WITHIN HIS PARTY, WITH MR. BUSH. HE ALLOWED A LONG DEBATE IN U.S. SANATE AND CONGRESS AND THEN WENT TO HIS BOSSES NO. 2 THE LEFT. BOSSES NO. 1 OF COURSE THE MAINOS, SORRY , SONIA AND RAUL GHANDY. IT WAS REDICULOUS INDEED. MERA BHARAT MAHAN.
RE:SO WHY NOW ? HE COULD HV RESIGNED MUCH EARLIER.
by Shashi Pandit on Jun 20, 2008 02:54 AM Permalink
sonia and rual actually congress and communists are the biggest anti secularists appease muslims exploit them and cry if anyone else exploits them as if its their baby
RE:SO WHY NOW ? HE COULD HV RESIGNED MUCH EARLIER.
by vidurbda on Jun 20, 2008 04:41 AM Permalink
u raju painter....bloody hindu jihadi.....what about MNS...RAj thakary...u have answers Is hamam main sab nange hai
RE:SO WHY NOW ? HE COULD HV RESIGNED MUCH EARLIER.
by Prasad on Jun 20, 2008 03:14 AM Permalink
Boy, He has guts... It takes none other than gut to be at a thorny seat.. It takes guts to fight with left respecting democracy.. It takes guts to have positive mindset & patience.. It takes guts to face people & explain them decision after increasing petrol prices.. And yes it takes guts to lead India positively though surrounded by dirty politicians without frustration..
yes, mostly people dont know what is inside of the N-Deal and whats its effects, whats is the profit and we can loose due to this. so MMS should make aware general people what is this and its effects.
RE:biggest problem is most people dont know what is N-Deal
by peter Ska on Jun 20, 2008 03:22 AM Permalink
True! Let hope, our govt will informed us abt the deal.
Definitely cong has never acted democratically on N-deal. They wanted to hijack all credits, but thanks to commies, they prod u to think why, whats in the deal?
Ho Ho.. Maino is playing a game with MMS as her kingpin.. She knows that husting times r nearby and everyone is going to rake up the nuclear issue.. why it did not get signed.. In oprder to disctance themselves frm Left and make everyone feel as if Left was responsble.,. they r doing this natak.. There r several in Cong itself whu dont support this deal.. BTW I hate this Left.. and wuld have liked to do some Nazi type treatmenst on them.. Post elections again hung parliament.. Coimng and Left will re-unite.. the treaty will never get signed... If BJP is so pro country why the hell do they not suppoirt MMS in this.. bcos they r worried MMS will take credit fr it at elections.. All bloody rodents.. headless chicken is the rite word.. Poor sen da got his asses raked on coal fr saying that truth..
RE:This is election time stunt by Maino
by peter Ska on Jun 20, 2008 03:15 AM Permalink
well , has MMs approached BJP in a constructive way. Never. Has he intended to take the opposition into confidence , NO..Has Manu ever briefed the leader of opposition on N-deal--NO.. Then how BJP will support.
Has he convened an all-party meeting on such a isse of national importance..I dont know.
How can one support u on something which he/she doesnt know...
