hey do you know that the CPM in kerala runs a business empire ranging from channels to amusement parks with almost a turnover of 5000 crores! so who says the communists dont like capitalism, they reap its benefits for themselves and lecture others to shun america and the capitalism it stands for...
RE:commie capitalism
by Ladoo sab on Jul 25, 2008 08:39 PM Permalink
This is not a secret: CPM in Kerala is the richest political party. Its Gen.Sec Vijayn lives in a multi million mansion and he and his family goes to Singapore for annula vacation. The CPM Home minister son wed recently and that was one of most recent lavish wedding ceremony in Kerala.
In the name of poor Kerala communist become a multi billion Rs company INC.
RE:commie capitalism
by udayakumar on Jul 26, 2008 07:26 AM Permalink
There is a flawed interpretation of things. Basically, if you think, TV Channel, multi-speciality hospital, educational institutions are sole property of capitalism and only cow and sheep belong to communism, then it is a tinted perception. You got to get your basics right. They have legal institutions, where ordinary people are the share holders. In fact, Kairali TV- one of the directors is Mammooty. They involve people from all walks of life. That is really a good model to practice.
RE:RE:commie capitalism
by udayakumar on Jul 26, 2008 07:29 AM Permalink
If you expect all the generations of communist leaders have to be beggers... then I am sorry. As soon as a guy attains 18, the father has legally no say. So he can marry as he wish. There is no problem if a person marry lavishly with legal money, what is the thinly veiled jealousy you people have..
RE:commie capitalism
by centerofright on Jul 26, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
If your leaders own Kith and Kin don't believe in their ideology, but expect others to believe in that. What a tragedy.
RE:commie capitalism
by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 05:57 PM Permalink
This is real revelation. There is so much more to capitalist communists in Kerala. This is one I found through Google. Kerala CPI-M's amusement park delayed. 13th Oct 2005, 10:49 GMT. Kannur (Kerala) : A Rs.250 million amusement park promoted by the Communist Party of India-Marxist (CPI-M) as an Onam gift to Kerala has been delayed and will now open only in February.
RE:commie capitalism
by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 06:27 PM Permalink
Some more info about capitalist communists of Kerala. Kerala communist party have following things: • A News paper • 3 TV channel (people, kairali, we) • One Multi specialty Hospital • One Co-Operative Engg College. Another one is a multi specialty hospital. The public issue cost Rs. 5000 per stock….
RE:commie capitalism
by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 06:09 PM Permalink
More revelations about Kerala CPM through Google. CPM is the proud owner of a modern water theme park in its bastion in north Kerala. Its a 25-acre hilly terrain located 15 km from the town at Parassinikadavu. The park will boast of 14 water rides, 12 dry items, children’s play area, a 35-ft high artificial waterfall, open air theatre and a music fountain among other things.
RE:commie capitalism
by rajesh prajapati on Jul 25, 2008 07:32 PM Permalink
Actually, Kerala cannot be considered as a communist state at all. My expereience is, that the state is prosperous because of its high literacy rate, women contributing to the economy in terms of secondary income (in some cases the major income!) and a lot of private enterprise by small traders and entrepreneurs - something you do not see in a typical commie state! The reds loose power if they do not perform and vice-versa, unlike the stranglehold the red parties have over the administration in W Bengal, which under communist rule had slipped down in agricultural, industrial and economic reforms, thereby further increasing the stronghold on the poor and the unemployed both in the rural as well as the industrial sector. Once the commies are thrown out of WBengal, (which I doubt because the Bongs only talk lots instead of actually delivering) Bengal will show a lot more progress. Even the chinese govt is one of the biggest capitalist in the world and the russians have also thrown out the commies in the Baltic sea!! See the difference in progress between North (Red) Korea and South (Daewoo, Samsung, etc..) and you realise the futility of Communism!
RE:commie capitalism
by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 06:05 PM Permalink
Here is something more I found out about CPM in Kerala through Google. Wednesday, July 19, 2006 In Kerala, the poor mens party CPM is a Rs 4,000 crore business group. In Kerala, the CPI(M) is a Rs 4,000 crore business group. The party runs a TV channel, rubber factories, tobacco units, is building an amusement park. And even has NRI partners. The Poor Persons party owns two TV Channel, Kairali and People satellite television channel
RE:commie capitalism
by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 06:32 PM Permalink
Actually I have no problem with communists entering capitalistic markets. Perhaps, other political parties should follow their example. There can be no better way to make money to fight elections and propagate party messages. For once I like Karat style communism
RE:Raghava, I used to credit you with more intel. Suddenly what happened?
by srinivasan mv on Jul 25, 2008 05:05 PM Permalink
Vladimir Stalin is an idiot. For each and everything he brings caste into the game. Any politician is a politician. He amasses wealth in the name of doing something for the poor and the lower castes. The lower castes remain poorer and the poor go beginning. The politicians like the Karunanidhis, Mayawatis and Lalu Prasads amass wealth at he cost of the poor citizens.
First learn to adopt and work hard to come up. How many centuries are you going to blame the Brahmisn for your idiocrazy.
Communism is great in theory. To each according to his needs & from each according to his ability. The problem is the second part. Having seen how it works from inside a place called Kerala, I have suffered it. Never again!
The privileged are the unionised. Does not matter whether you work for the govt or private. One need not even attend office to get paid also by the shirtless, starving man in the street. Those with iron rice bowl talk & breath exploitation. With overtime wages, they get more than their non-unionised officers in the bank etc. Also a system of loading & unloading goods & even household items will get the coolies (goondas) paid many times compared to other states. So head to the liquor shops for your daily fill. But "paradise" does not last. One by one, all outfits closed & people headed for Gulf & even faced Bal saheb in his den to keep the body & soul together. Their families left behind got used to the money only & when the day of reckoning came,came back to a strange home & people! It was like a nuclear winter, with total isolation.
Ditto China, but they turned to free-market with a vengeance. Vietnam is on the mend. Cambodia, still reeling from the 2 million dead, killed by their own Pol Pot practising a virulent form of peasant uprising, putting even Hitler to shame. North Korea & Cuba trying baby steps from Kim & Castro family fiefdom.
Times have changed, dear comrades. First produce wealth than idle talk. No easy way out!
RE:Time to face reality
by centerofright on Jul 25, 2008 04:08 PM Permalink
Absolutely agree. Everyday people in kerala are at the mercy of unionised thugs who create havoc in the day to day life of the people. Imagine you buy a furniture and take it to your home in a vehicle. You will not be allowed to download it on your own nor will you be allowed to arrange for people. Either these thugs will do it and extort money or will allow other to do it but still extort money from us. Such is the case for individuals then every one can understand the problem industries will be facing with these communist goondas. All over the world these thugs have been taught a lesson by people, but these leftovers are still creating problems in Kerala and Bengal.
RE:introspection
by Vladimir Stalin on Jul 25, 2008 04:11 PM Permalink
Brilliant Brilliant. This tamil paappan Cho is simply brilliant. I salute him. Skanda, Siva Rama Krishna, you are equally brilliant too for having brought to light. Aha, superb. "If the left has any future in India, India has no future left". Oh my my itnaa achaa shabdh maine kabi nahi sunaa. You have driven me to delirious ecstacy. This calls for Jack Daniels. Aha aha, marvelous "If the left has any future in India, India has no future left".
Kerala Communist govt declared 25% load shedding for industries from this week onwards, blaming ,they are not receiving from center pool, and opposing govt go on nuclear deal. Communist Chinese govt can do the same deal with US govt, but India can't go, as they want a poor, hungry, non-developed, stone-age India. Its a simple theory everyone knows "communism exists with poorty only". They(comrades) are enemies inside India who work for our external enemies(spokesman's for Chinese govt). First thing govt has to do is conducting awareness camps for people in Kerala, Bangal and other red areas.
RE:Kerala Communist govt declared 25% load shedding for industries
by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 03:58 PM Permalink
Do not bother much. They would soon launch strikes and hartals that would bring down the over all demand for power. This is what had exactly happened in West Bengal. This is a demand side energy management policy, perfected by the Left parties
RE:Kerala Communist govt declared 25% load shedding for industries
by lalit kedia on Jul 25, 2008 05:32 PM Permalink
you are right, I was born and brought up in west Bengal in sixties and did my engineering from a prestigious institute. In front of us Bengal turned from a industrialised state to a chaos and we decided to leave the state and work elsewhere, thousands of kilometers away from our own house and parents only because comrades will not allow any factory to run. union ( of those who get free salary for not working) will stop work for any small reason. This is the reason that Bengal is lagging behind so many newly industrialised states. Today if CM has started a move for industrialisation they face their own game by others. how communism has helped Bengal to remain ahead, there is lot of introspection required.
RE:Kerala Communist govt declared 25% load shedding for industries
by PKN on Jul 25, 2008 05:49 PM Permalink
lalit kedia & ajith k , Much of what you say is cent percent correct. But what you have left unsaid is more important. Why only in two states namely Kerala and West Bengal do the communists have political relevance? Also why does the leadership of the communist movement in India come from these two states? The problem lies with the people of these two states! It is this that promotes communism in these two states. Years ago Swami Vivekananda called Kerala as a “mad house” and that was before the commies came. Was it the commies that destroyed these two states or was it the ugly tendencies of the people in these two states that created the communists who then went on to destroy these tow states ?
India needs a second independence to get rid of commies otherwise they will make it lag behind china in development.While supporting government at center their sole aim is to restrain the development of India in comparison to China
left got a golden opputunity to get the power in 1996 but they refused to do so. They are in a state of high predicament as at time the when they are opposing the deal and at the same time following the chinese counterpart who are supporting this deal and in the modern scenario they just follow the old dogmas which need to be change as the demand of the time
RE:left are in dilemma these days
by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 03:49 PM Permalink
If communists change the way that you are suggesting, they would lose their bearings. Their credo is to ultimately establish communist dictatorship at any cost. Do not expect them to accept or respect democracy or democratic traditions. In our country they have been forced live and work inside a democratic environment. But communism per se does not believe in democracy. Think of one communist country which was a democracy
frankly speaking in this whole sordid saga of political showmanship all in the name of national interest, it is only the Left which has stuck to its principles (whether right or wrong only future will tell) untainted by cross voting or the lure of black money. it is doubtful whether even more than 10 out of 542 parliamentarians could understand what nuclear deal is all about and how does it compromise our national sovereignity except the bogey of energy security. MPs who voted for or against the nuclear deal voted either because of party whip or to make a profitable business out of it or to help their business friends or in short to serve their very narrow interests. do we expect pappu yadav or afzal ansari to know anything about nuclear deal. i totally commend the Left for their behaviour in and out of the Parliament. Moral propriety was never compromised. in this time when so called democracy is being called by names as bribocracy or mobocracy, where are the people who can provide beacon light. i think only Left has provided some glimmer of light in this tunnel of democratic darkness. just think of cascading effect the whole saga has on social milieu especially very young impressionable minds of youth. i think it is not for the Left to introspect but for UPA and its parasitic allies to introspect, for Dr Manmohan Singh to introspect that for engraving his name in the history, what he has done. couldn't he have handled it better since beginning.let business and sensex rejoi
RE:introspection of left
by Anil Bharali on Jul 25, 2008 04:10 PM Permalink
Poltics is primarily for people'sinterest. If it doesnot serve the purpose of the it cannot anything from moral value much.Now,aligning with Mayawati seems a good decision as an option to UPA against political isolation. Moral question on corruption remains as it is. Left cannot servive only on principle stand. Present left leadership is yet to show competance and wisdom in political diplomacy.
RE:introspection of left
by Jojo George on Jul 25, 2008 05:38 PM Permalink
Interesting observation, isn't it? Unless you are suggesting that the 10 out of 542 MPs that you were talking about were all from the Left parties, aren't you suggesting that the Left was stubbornly and stupidly trying to bring down the government at a time of global economic difficulty over something, which most of them did not understand? Since when did being stupidly stubborn become moral propriety? And no, that's not a category mistake, because while they may have not cross-voted, that could be because the disincentives in terms of possible violent ostracization may simply be greater than that of the incentives in terms of cash. If Shri Somnath Chatterjee, a ten-time parliamentarian, can be expelled without hearing his side or seeking his explanation, the average Left MP who listens to his conscious is likely to meet his political death, if not physical death, much sooner than you imagine. After the next elections, when the Left will return to the Parliament with token representation, there will still be anti-poor, anti-unorganized labor, anti-growth, anti-progress sloganeering, but not even Mayavati will care two hoots about it! As for introspection, that requires the wisdom to recognize intelligence in others and the humility to accept that they could go wrong. Therefore, the possibility of the Left introspecting is simply not there!
RE:introspection of left
by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 03:54 PM Permalink
Yes communist parties all over the world have been highly principled all over the world. Why then are they being rejected and ejected out of one country after another. Discipline is good so long as it is good for the people. Discipline for the sake of discipline serves no purpose
