Kerala - C/o Gulf Tamilnadu - No Comments Andhra Pradesh - Telangana movement Karnataka - Ask Tamilnadu Bihar,UP - Their weapons are sophisticated than Indian Army's Bengal - Chinese will listen. Seven sister states - Instant death if you are non-assamese. Punjab - Khalistan Kashmir - Kidding? Rajasthan - They call you "paradesi". Maharastra - Vidarbha movement. UP - Bundelkhand, Poorvanchal etc ...
Due to the intrinsic cultural diversity, each State in India cannot 'productively' govern more than 2 million citizens. India should 'decentralize' 602 districts into States or Cantons as in Switzerland.
Before you think about waste disposal, think about Indian railway. No where in the world, not even in Thailand, railway toilets dispose of human excrements on the tracks. This is Indian railway.
There is only one solution to this disgrace. Indians willrespond only to shock treatment. Ask all these people top go on strike and let some serious disease break out in India and let millions die until the government and society realizes that one human cannot be used to clean and carry another human's waste. They need to be provided alternate employment so that no one is available to do this dirty work. Public should bulldoze these public open toilets. Indians have no sense of hygine and clealiness to begin with, including the so-called educated. That is part of the problem too. They need to be trained to clean up after themselves.
It is an irony that people with no idea about excellence are in search of excellence! Excellence could not be found adequately during the long period of past decades! Is this inadequacy of top managers of this nation not sufficient to assess the level of excellence prevailing in our nation, filled with so called luminaries with multi graduations of various not only Indian Universities but also from abroad? Indian brain once radiated with brilliance, has drained now terribly due to import of largely defective western educational pattern along with their erroneous culture that makes them shine only in abroad due to a simple fact that the level of intellect abroad is comparatively very low! Oh searchers of excellence, please don't search for excellence amidst multi degree holders as the experience as we all feel is leading to anarchy of entire nation filled with corruption! So called present excellence remains a silent spectator of the dying nation! Renowned poet late Thomas Gray said in one of his master pieces,
%u201DFull many a gem of purest ray serene The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear: Full many a flower is born to blush unseen, And waste its sweetness on the desert air.
Some village-Hampden, that with dauntless breast The little tyrant of his fields withstood, Some mute inglorious Milton here may rest, Some Cromwell, guiltless of his country's blood.%u201D
RE:Search at right places!
by Lalatendu Deo on Jan 27, 2008 10:23 PM Permalink
Excellence is not to be searched, and it is not always there at the right place. It comes out naturally.
And the brain drain is not a process that can be effectively channelised. Why are we people thinking that we have only about a million people or so whose brain drained? There are a thousand million left back in India, who are doing exceedingly well. And the indication of their contribution is there for all to see.
One thing, if someone finds better pasture outside the country, well, he will certainly find things over here to be not to be good enough and to be faulty. You can not and should not stop them. Anyway, they will not be very productive over here.
RE:RE:Search at right places!
by Gautam nil on Jan 28, 2008 04:01 AM Permalink
The naturally occurring excellence has to be rightly identified, for which identifier should be competent to rightly spot the excellence as it is never tied with multi degrees! Don't go by the false statistics prepared by present multi graduates, who just to avoid crisis management, throw some figures! Go and run from village to village if your brain has drained, to personally witness the extent of poverty in entire nation and consequent miseries amidst large majority of India! The present brain drain amidst those so called luminaries with multi degrees, many from abroad and corruption are entirely responsible for such chaotic state of affairs in the nation! Only the result can conclude the effectiveness or capabilities of the managers of the nation! Of course, those with brain drain can easily win bread outside as the level of intellect is comparatively very low, which can be inferred from one single matter of Iraq handled so clumsily, resulting in massacres of lakhs of innocent people for nothing and spread of terrorism to other parts of the world! Let those who settle in US may not feel proud as they are also equal to local brain drains, out of which the excellence has to be located by really competent, only when the nation will register real progress! Read the Poem by Thomas Gray for locating the excellence!
RE:RE:Search at right places!
by Gautam nil on Jan 28, 2008 04:02 AM Permalink
Mr. Deo, the naturally occurring excellence has to be rightly identified, for which identifier should be competent to rightly spot the excellence as it is never tied with multi degrees! Don't go by the false statistics prepared by present multi graduates, who just to avoid crisis management, throw some figures! Go and run from village to village if your brain has drained, to personally witness the extent of poverty in entire nation and consequent miseries amidst large majority of India! The present brain drain amidst those so called luminaries with multi degrees, many from abroad and corruption are entirely responsible for such chaotic state of affairs in the nation! Only the result can conclude the effectiveness or capabilities of the managers of the nation! Of course, those with brain drain can easily win bread outside as the level of intellect is comparatively very low, which can be inferred from one single matter of Iraq handled so clumsily, resulting in massacres of lakhs of innocent people for nothing and spread of terrorism to other parts of the world! Let those who settle in US may not feel proud as they are also equal to local brain drains, out of which the excellence has to be located by really competent, only when the nation will register real progress! Read the Poem by Thomas Gray for locating the excellence!
RE:Search at right places!
by Lalatendu Deo on Jan 28, 2008 09:39 PM Permalink
Goutam, it was crystal clear much before both the Iraq Wars that US had a motive. And they will do whatever they think fit. It has got noting to do with their intellect mass. Most of their citizens, including those few intelligent people that country has, still say the intent was right and the US should continue their stay there.
You and I are concerned about the massacre about the innocents. Not many in the US think so. They call these people as enemy assets. You may not be aware, the Sr. Bush ordered killing of about a lakh or more Iraqi Solders who had surrendered to the NATO forces after the culmination of the 1st war, cold blooded, saying that these surrendered unarmed soldiers to be potential threat.
And it is a fact that many amongst those, who were vocal in support of this argument, were so called India's Brain Drains. Better they are gone away.
RE:Search at right places!
by Gautam nil on Jan 29, 2008 11:19 PM Permalink
Mr.Deo, You said," it was crystal clear much before both the Iraq Wars that US had a motive. And they will do whatever they think fit. It has got noting to do with their intellect mass". This is what is due to lack of intellect! We are not bothered about what others think! We are bothered about the ground realities! It is the fact that Americans are intellectually big zero and hence, they bring intellect from out side US right from Dr.Einstein's time onwards till DR.Von Braun, who was responsible for launching first American earth satellite successfully as the project director of Vanguard and Jupiter %u2018C%u2019 Rockets, which lifted the Amerian satellite to put on orbit successfully! Only Indian software is in America with the help of Indians! Indian Doctors are minting money in US! We can go on piling up this way! Americans always depend upon others%u2019 Intellect as theirs%u2019 is very low comparatively!
I am in full agreement with what you said about the Americans. The reason as to why that country prospered was that the US had freely allowed those people who had good things to offer, to get in. And they have gained a lot doing so.
Do you think those people of Indian Origin in the US have a lot of sympathy for the people back home? Nope. Most of them would burn their Indian-ness at the slightest of pretext.
Only thing back in India that should be taken out of the system is Corruption. If this can be taken care of, things would change overnight.
I live in a small town. And I can say for sure that the Scavengers, dealing with night soil etc., are absolutely not there, since quite a long time. I have visited several small places as well as big towns, but I have not seen them anywhere. I can not say for sure that they do not exist, but even if they are there I do not think it is a big issue, as is made out to be.
These are specialised jobs and the time will come when it would be a very high-paying one. The other day, the Discovery Channel was showing those people with space suit type suits, along with Cameras, go into public septic tanks doing those specialised Jobs that are not possible to work-out with a machine. These men can easily come into the category of Scavengers. Shall we kick them out from the society? Or shall we prevent them from doing the public work? Obviously, if we enact a law to punish these people or those who engage these people, it would be wrong.
But, I appreciate the article and appreciate the concerns of the author.
A very big thank yu to rediffmail.com for this piece on scavengers by the sri LC Jain, one of the few living great freedom fighters and a former member of planing comission.As a society we are shameless, narrowminded,selfcentered and inhuman to our own indian brothers and sisters who do scavenging to earn a living.The lip sympathy of the govt.,politicians,buraeucrats shouldnot surprise us.We are intoxicated with the euphoria of 9% growth,cricketing fame,software riches,massive forign exchange piles ,global accolades about our achievements like democracy,economy,freepress etc.The middle class has no time for the unfortunate brothern of scavengers,govt.,muncipalities are dead corrupt and inefficient.Then who will show salvation to these unfortunate people who have equal rights like all of us.Good NGOs,consentious people like LC Jain can lead from front.The govt.should make manual scavenging illegal and make them stop this work,shift them to some respectable jobs after giving good vocational training.Then people will be forced to build dry septic toilets on their own because self interest drives the socity and the economy with vigour.
Now, all passenger coaches will have eco-friendly toilets
NEW DELHI: In an attempt to do away with the prevalent system of open discharge of waste, the Indian Railways will introduce green toilets in all its passenger coaches.
%u201COur aim is to do away with the conventional toilets that are operational in passenger coaches in the interest of environment protection, cleanliness and sanitation,%u201D said a senior railway official.
Railway authorities are exploring three kinds of systems %u2014 controlled discharge, biodegradable and vacuum-retention toilet.
%u201CTo begin with, we have introduced the controlled-discharge toilet system in some coaches. The system ensures that waste from toilets are discharged on the tracks beyond a predetermined speed of the train. This means waste is discharged only after the trains have left the stations and have attained a certain speed. This helps in keeping the tracks at the stations clean and free from waste,%u201D said the official.
Vacuum-retention toilet, which are used in airplanes, works on vacuum-assisted suction of waste. It retains the waste in an under-slung storage tank and final evacuation takes place at terminals through a ground installation provided for the purpose.
%u201CWe have invited tenders and currently a technical evaluation is on. Depending on its technical assessment we will take the next step for using it in certain coaches,%u201D said the official.
Indian Railways need to adopt the same type of toilets that is used on aircrat, so that the refuse does not drop onto the tracks below. The shocking facct is that the railways employ people, whose job it is to clean the portion of the railway-tracks that lies within the railway-station of of such droppings. Of what use is building high-tech software, hardware, cars, buildings, outsourcing, BPOs, etc, if we cannot liberate our own people from such slavery ? The railways should immediately implement aircraft-type of toilets on all its trains. Indian railways must be the only railways in the world, wherein the droppings from the toilets acctually drop onto the tracks.
RE:Toilets on Indian trains
by vp.satheesh on Jan 26, 2008 10:15 PM Permalink
Railways flush out waste the green way Now, all passenger coaches will have eco-friendly toilets
NEW DELHI: In an attempt to do away with the prevalent system of open discharge of waste, the Indian Railways will introduce green toilets in all its passenger coaches.
%u201COur aim is to do away with the conventional toilets that are operational in passenger coaches in the interest of environment protection, cleanliness and sanitation,%u201D said a senior railway official.
Railway authorities are exploring three kinds of systems %u2014 controlled discharge, biodegradable and vacuum-retention toilet. Hats off to Mr.Lalu
RE:Toilets on Indian trains
by vp.satheesh on Jan 26, 2008 10:05 PM Permalink
Yes, I totally agree Its time that this is brought to the notice of our Railway Minister. He can impose a surcharge in the coming budget to muster money for the act.
