RE:Artical
by SR on Aug 05, 2008 03:46 PM Permalink
Please read the foot-note. It says the copyright of this article is with PTI. So, how can rediff modify it in any way?
Here discussions are going on that Christaian’s only agenda that propagating Christianity. It is really a joking that what these Missionaries are getting once they going to tribal area and treating leprosy patient or providing shelters for homeless people. In Bihar, UP, Orissa like states still people belonged to backward community treated by other community not as a human beings. Being a Hindu majority country, they are not doing anything for this people. It is very amazing that these majority always accusing that Christians are getting something if they provide free treatment, homes for needy people. But one thing, Christians means, they believe in “living God’.
RE:Christianity
by H N on Aug 05, 2008 02:59 PM Permalink
Absolutely Mr Baby. Christians only serve for their altruistic nature. They get all the money from America and Europe only to help the poor hindus in India. Especially because all of these idol worshiping infidels are going to hell you are just here to help. And trust me the racists who send money to save India will slaughter you if you show up in their hometowns with your brown skin. And before socalled benevolent christians came to India India was not so poor country. Ironically even under the rule of Aurangazen India thrived. Indias GDP went from 20 times that of Britains and 25% of the world to under 2% under the rule of our dear protestants. so what says you.
RE:RE:Christianity
by Guest on Aug 05, 2008 04:08 PM Permalink
HN, Is tht why brown skin people like u r dying 2 get into America n othern european countries? Becoz u know they will slaughter u n u can become a martyr? And go 2 heaven for sacrificing urself at d racists hands? If Americans r racists n murderers they do not NEED 2 SEND MONEY 2 FOOLS LIKE U IN INDIA FOR CHARITY'!
RE:Christianity
by true tamilan on Aug 05, 2008 02:38 PM Permalink
What is Mata amritanandamayi, baba amte and so many others doing. Ofcourse these people dont have money power that is being funded to other native slaves from their white masters in foreign countries.
RE:RE:Christianity
by Varghese Baby on Aug 05, 2008 02:52 PM Permalink
Then something fishy ? Why still people believe in Christianity ? You say it is due to money. Then you will convert to Christian if I offer u noney ?
RE:Christianity
by PKN on Aug 05, 2008 03:08 PM Permalink
Varghese Baby , Much as you may try to camouflage it the purpose of Christian Charity work has more to do with 'conversions' and less to that noble phrase about 'serving humanity. It is true that missionaries serve the poorest of the poor or the most down trodden tribals – the means are wonderful but the end in itself is highly questionable! Ultimately like all Abrahamic religions the final game is about numbers . Whether this is achieved by way of conversions or by procreation (the Catholic Church in Kerala has asked its followers to procreate more vigorously) . There was this great belief that the Church was a great promoter of education – a noble activity which they actually did. But as St Stephens recently announced loudly they are not in the Business of Education but committed only to faith they represent (Not the words of the Sangh Parivar but the actual words of the management committee that overseas running of St Stephens ) Motivated Charity is no charity !
RE:Christianity
by JGN on Aug 05, 2008 03:20 PM Permalink
Dear PKN, the largest NGO in the world is "Prajapita Brahmakumaris" How many of us have heard their name? The missionaries spend more money on publicity than on actual charity. Even Mother Teresa was not an exception to this. That is why we hear the names of Christian charitable organizations. As far as education is concerned, it is just a money making venture. The Christian managements demand hefty donations from the followers of their religions also. And wonder of wonder, all the obscurantist forces in Kerala (NSS/SNDP/Muslim Education Sciety/various denominations of Chruches/etc are hand-in-glove in opposing the reofrms in education sector. Even the first Communist Govt headed by the late EMS was brought down by the Chruches for the reforms in education sector (initiated by none other than the late Prof. Joseph Mundassery).
RE:Christianity
by Truly Indian on Aug 05, 2008 03:37 PM Permalink
Who is Hindu here? I am a Maharashtrian. No Bihari or South Indian can enter Mumbai. Speak Marathi and live in Maharashtra. Lets decide caste first then decide religion. Amchi Mumbai.
RE:Christianity
by true tamilan on Aug 05, 2008 02:40 PM Permalink
You have a big inferiority complex. Whites came and plundered our wealth and killed people in millions during famine. They built some schools and hospitals which the current native slaves are proud of?
RE:Christianity
by Avinash on Aug 05, 2008 02:42 PM Permalink
Varghese Baby, pl search for The Dracula Houses of Kerala to know more about the noble works being carried out by the missionaries in Kerala. Are we to understand that all Christians in Kerala have become Millionaire and it is only the downtrodden hindus who are now to be saved by a dead jew on a stick??
RE:Christianity
by Varghese Baby on Aug 05, 2008 02:56 PM Permalink
On what ground you are saying these bull shits. You know the history of Kerala ? The Hindus & brahmins are only interested for mariage again and again then making children, that way all their money wiped out. How can you blame christian for theif fault
RE:RE:Christianity
by H N on Aug 05, 2008 03:04 PM Permalink
most of the missionary money comes from America. For your information there is still segregation and quiet rampant racism especially in the jesus belt. And if you go to france or germany or even vatican with your brown skin you will know how they treat you. How many non latin language speaking Popes have you had. Christians slaughtered millions of natives in north america, south america, australia and enslaved millions over millions till recently. The wealth of America and Europe is built with blood of people of every clour. So please keep your blood money right in your pocket.
And by the way they also created all these blood sheds all over world by using divide and rule. so if all christians are benevolent people they should not have played the hindu muslim divide, created Israel by kicking out millions of palestinians, sunni and shia in arabia and the list goes one.
RE:RE:RE:Christianity
by Guest on Aug 05, 2008 03:59 PM Permalink
Is tht why, with ur brown skin u guys r constructing temples in d west? What does it matter from where d money comes from? what matters is how is it used? It is these very own white masters who r donating millions for charity for people like u!!!!!!
RE:Christianity
by Guest on Aug 05, 2008 03:49 PM Permalink
Dear Friend, this matter is neither about people from kerala, nor about money. if you do state that Jesus as a dead jew on a stick, you have by the same logical source of information every reason to believe that he has also risen from the dead & is no longer dead but alive. The Bible says that God wants all people (irrespective of their caste, creed, color or origins) to repent and be saved from sin. In fact never did Jesus profess he had come to establish the religion Christianity but it is written in the bible that his followers came to be known as Christians. So, when u allege Christians with their misdemeanors, please do not generalise, I do agree that there are black sheeps with wrong motives even among christians. Jesus is interested in nothing else but the change in an individuals heart, change in his character into a noble one.
RE:Christianity
by Avinash on Aug 05, 2008 02:55 PM Permalink
Pl search for The Skeptics Annotated Bible dot com for category-wise verses like Absurdities, Contradictions, Hatred, Good-stuff, etc from The Bible (both Old Testament and New Testament), The Quran and The Book of Mormon. Pl read them and understand for yourself what these books teach their followers.
RE:RE:RE:Christianity
by Guest on Aug 05, 2008 04:03 PM Permalink
MrKnowall, r u hallucinating? plz read ur Bagwadgita over n over again before commenting before commenting on other religions. Atleast we do not worship dogs, snakes n trees!
Dear Swamiji hinduism is the only religion that worships animals, plants and trees. By worshipping them we preserve them and ensure that the ecosystem is in tact.
This ecofriendly initiative was taken by hinduism few thousands of years ago. Since you have an apteizer to eat these animals and you dont have funds to preserve them you have converted to christianity where you currently enjoy these animals in your food.........
we are Very happy to discard a brutus from hinduism
RE:Samiji
by true tamilan on Aug 05, 2008 02:26 PM Permalink
This father has to report his boss about the progress of work. Boss siting in Vatican has set a target of souls to be harvested. Boss has told the subordinate to do localization of christianity wherever possible
RE:Samiji
by My Outlook and views on Aug 05, 2008 02:31 PM Permalink
my dear friend grahastan...even rama was a non-veg...read the ramayana carefully and see that wen he was banished into a forest, he said that he will now long for the meat that he used to eat...also in the rig veda, indra is supposed to be eating the flesh of 300 buffaloes..in the puranas there are various references to animals which shud be sacrificed and eaten... please check urself... if u dont find it i will tell you the chapter and the verse where u will find it... but i doubt if u ever will find cause i am sure u have none of these boks in your house...(majoroty of the so called hindus dont have the vedas which are supposed to be supreme...LOL...TALK ABOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS!)
RE:Samiji
by Avinash on Aug 05, 2008 02:52 PM Permalink
My Outlook and views, hinduism is not a religion in its narrow sense. it is a conglomeration of various beliefs and even atheism. Atheists existed even in Vedic and were known as Charvakas.
There is no single book the hindus consider as "holy-book" like the followers of semitic religions. The teachings of hinduism are spread in hundreds of books.
The Veda primarily dealing with rituals is Yajur Veda and it is mostly about worship of "Indra, Agni, Varnua, etc" Pl read Volga to Ganga to know how the "invisible god" was invented when people lost faith in those concepts. The Christianity and Islam originated much later in history and they also assimilated many of the oral traditions of the primitive tribes. Modern humanbeings are presumed to be originated in Africa and spread to various parts of the world. So there could be some similarities in the beliefs/customs, etc.
RE:Samiji
by true tamilan on Aug 05, 2008 02:34 PM Permalink
Who said that Hindus hold vedas as supreme. Hindu is someone who accepts the fact that there r different ways in attaining salvation. Lot of hindu scriptues have shown the path. It is upto each of us to choose the path which want to traverse.
Regarding non-vegetarianism, India has the largest percentage of vegetarians in the world and that is because of their religious beliefs.
RE:Samiji
by My Outlook and views on Aug 05, 2008 02:53 PM Permalink
In the Samyuta Nikaya (111,1-9) we have another description of a Yajna performed by Pasenadi, king of Kosala. It is said that five hundred bulls, five hundred calves and many heifers, goats and rams were led to the pillar to be sacrificed. Also see...Ramayana 2:20, Ramayana 4:17:34., Visnusmrti 51:6, Rigveda (10/85/13) , Rigveda (6/17/1)
RE:Samiji
by My Outlook and views on Aug 05, 2008 02:37 PM Permalink
dont take medicines and stop brushing ur teeth and dont cook vegetables as well... u r killing the germs present in ur body and the vegetables....
RE:Samiji
by My Outlook and views on Aug 05, 2008 03:06 PM Permalink
hahahahaha...its not nonsense..its sense...the hindu conviction about animals is based on your stupid belief in the doctrine of reincarnation....The prohibition of eating beef was applied in later stages in Hindu society. Mahatma Gandhi could not accept slaughtering of cows and he insisted the Hindus on sacrificing their lives to protect cow. This had so much influence on people that even the secular leader like Nehru could not remove the prohibitory order of non-killing of bullocks from the Hindu society." -- Avijit Roy.
RE:Missionories Propaganda
by My Outlook and views on Aug 05, 2008 02:34 PM Permalink
Holy land where the so called gods committed all the disgusting and immoral activities and talk about western culture!!!hey,it is ancient indian culture that is prevalent in the world today.... go through ur books once again and u will know the truth
RE:RE:Missionories Propaganda
by My Outlook and views on Aug 05, 2008 02:48 PM Permalink
yes... u r right... the difference is that it is followers who have done that...but in hinduism it is the god themselves who have done that... and fools r worshipping them blindly...
