RE:@ R K Reddy
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:59 PM Permalink
Pl read The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. Brooks freely available at Project Gutenberg to know some of the noble works carried out in the name of religions the world over (especially Christianity and Islam). There is graphic description of atrocities committed in the name of religion and for establishing the supremacy of "god" over humanbeings!!!!
RE:@ R K Reddy
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 11:09 PM Permalink
Mr.Tathagata Mukherjee, then what is the difference between the Christian and Muslim fanatics and so-called tolerant hindus???? And of course I do not beleive that the right-wing hindu parties are the "protectors" of my religion.
RE:@ R K Reddy
by dheeraj on Aug 01, 2008 11:29 PM Permalink
Mr Avinash u have every right to be atheist . But please refrain from hurting religion sentiments of other people . Some of the worlds biggest atrocities have been commited by atheists like Communists and fascists , why be? because they have no fear , no repentance on teir deeds because they think there is no one above them .
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by Guest on Aug 01, 2008 11:56 PM Permalink
Avinash, You don't have any right to point on someone's belief.If you dont believe God in Amarnath you stay home, it is government's responsibility to protect people of India from terrorists attack. If not Amarnath even big cities like Blore are under threat. Now will you say everyone not to get out of house? Avoiding is not always the solution.
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by R K Reddy on Aug 01, 2008 10:28 PM Permalink
You should read riddle in hinduism by Dr. Ambedkar.
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by Jaganniwas Iyer on Aug 01, 2008 10:53 PM Permalink
You should do some reaing on the personal habits of Ambedkar and broadcast them in public. if you have the guts, that is. Keep your secular sermons on Hindutva and Hindus to yourself; be grateful to Hindu tolerance. Jaganniwas
RE:RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:32 PM Permalink
Also think why a scholar like Ambedkar did not convert to Christianity or Islam despite offer to give him sackfull of money and of the converts who deserted our native culture for a few kgs of rice and cheap American milk powder!!!!!!
RE:RE:RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by nai on Aug 01, 2008 10:44 PM Permalink
Rules of this material world do not apply to God. Rules are for us. The women were great sages in their past births who did tapasya for millions of years to attain Narayana. in their next life, they worshipped Devi Katyayani to attain Narayana (Krishna).
That is why I said, you cannot understand God unless you are not a devotee. You can only commit offences. Thats why He says in Bhagvad Gita - fools cannot understnad Me and My activities. Only a devotee can understand Me. Enough Reddy. your end is very near. But still God is merciful on you because he knows you are his part and parcel and for some time your intelligence to understand him is lost. So no matter you defame him on these forums, he is still your best friend.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:47 PM Permalink
nai, pl read Volga to Ganga to know how that "formless" god was created when people lost faith in "Indra, Varuna,Agni, etc"!!!!!
RE:RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by Jaganniwas Iyer on Aug 01, 2008 10:59 PM Permalink
Why? Did Ambedkar had some divine insight? It is people like you who read that shit and seem to be quite fond of it. Jaganniwas
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by nai on Aug 01, 2008 10:30 PM Permalink
And I advise you to shut your mouth up and not open it unless you develop some faith, humility and submissiveness to understand WHAT IS GOD !
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by R K Reddy on Aug 01, 2008 10:31 PM Permalink
Hindus are the most abusive on this message board. No wonder!! It comes to them from their religion.
RE:RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by R K Reddy on Aug 01, 2008 10:35 PM Permalink
the dead jew did not promote violence and did not teach us to kill our own brothers. He did not run away with the clothes of bathing women. Compare this with Krishna.
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:42 PM Permalink
Mr.R K Reddy, pl visit the web of Positive Atheism to know the real face of Christianity. Also search for The Dracula Houses of Kerala for some of the noble works done by the Christians in Kerala!!!!!!!!
RE:RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by Jaganniwas Iyer on Aug 01, 2008 10:56 PM Permalink
So we asume that you're not a Hindu, as is apparaent from your shit tirade. Hindus are 'them' to you. We Hindus have a right to abuse creatures like you. It's our natural God-given right, Reddy boy. Take your pamphleteering elsewhere. Jaganniwas
RE:RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by nai on Aug 01, 2008 10:33 PM Permalink
Yes, we are abusive because we ask you to become more humble and faithful. You are not abusive because you blame hinduism and God with offensive languages.
Your actions speak for yourself Mr. Reddy, no need to boast off. People here are not fools.
RE:RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:33 PM Permalink
Mr. Reddy, then why do you beleive that a dead jew on a stick is holding all the entry tickets to heaven??????
RE:RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by PKN on Aug 01, 2008 10:59 PM Permalink
RK Reddy , "Read Jesus lived in India" It will be an eyeopener for you
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by nai on Aug 01, 2008 10:27 PM Permalink
Avinash, do you mean to say God is present everywhere 'except the amarnath cave' ?
If people having faith want to take some trouble for their dear Lord what is the harm?
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:45 PM Permalink
No, visitng temples and other places of worship is actually waste of time and money. Work is worhsip.
The late Baba Amte's son and daughter-in-law has been awarded Magsase Award yesterday. They did not get that for going on pilgrimage from place to place.
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by Rupakshi on Aug 01, 2008 11:24 PM Permalink
you mean when ever Muslim fellows or some other out fits have objection for Hindus to move in their own country, they should shut up and follow the dictations of terrorists?
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by PKN on Aug 01, 2008 10:57 PM Permalink
Asoka did not leave Hinduism, he moved to Buddhism because of the non violence that it taught. You would not understand this since as they say a convert is a pervert. You or your forefathers converted for monetary benefits. Since you have that nagging feeling in your mind you will spit on Hinduism! Go ahead do it if that helps you make peace with yourself. All religions have beliefs that outsiders cannot understand. The Hindu believes that his God lives in Caves! The Catholic believes that someone like you walks in to a stupid confession box and says he peeped in to his neighbor’s bedroom then the Son, the father and the Holy Ghost will forgive the peeping Tom! PS: I believe that Jesus Christ was one of the greatest men that lived on this earth. Never could understand how he could get such perverted following. After you finish reading the "Riddles of Hinduism" read "Jesus lived in India" - It tells you how Jesus converted himself to Buddhism!!!
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 11:04 PM Permalink
Mr.PKN, Jesus was not such a great figure as the Christians want us to beleive. Read some of the articles available at the website of Postive Atheism to know more about him.
RE:RE:RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by nai on Aug 01, 2008 10:32 PM Permalink
No Reddy, God is present everywhere. He is present in your heart also. its only unfortunate that you cannot realise, because at present your mind is covered under the web of ignorance created by illusion.
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by nai on Aug 01, 2008 10:40 PM Permalink
First you must answer me, what makes you kill in the name of a formless, qualityless, featureless unseen entity?
Hindus have never raised weapons on women, old and children. What makes you kill women and children?
Hindus have raised weapons against irreligion and will continue to raise. Killing an asura is not sin.. it is deliverance. But killing the general praja is biggest sin. Actually you see this world in perspect of this single life. You are here for another 30 -40 yrs. After that? where will you be? and your muslim/christian body whatever it is will produce 1 kg of soil after death.. thats all. Open your eyes. See beyond this tiny time frame. See the bigger perspective. Try to understand your real identity. But you will not listen. why will you? you are already covered under the bodily conception of life. because you have the body of a muslim- so you become muslim, and you start hating hindus and others. This is called ignorance.
RE:Why land for Amarnath is revoked even after it got nod from Court on environmental grounds as jehadis , islamists opposed?
by R K Reddy on Aug 01, 2008 10:33 PM Permalink
then what makes you kill people in the name of caves and structures ?
Not only hindus but the buddhists also turn violent when they reach the threshold limit of tolerance. Have you heard of Shaolin Kangfu? That is Buddhist martial art!!!!! Even very recently the buddhist monks in Myanmar (Burma) turned against the military dictators
RE:Periyar was great friend of Jinnah
by R K Reddy on Aug 01, 2008 10:06 PM Permalink
So is Advani.The question is why did Ashoka kill so many people if he was a hindu and why did he leave hinduism after seeing violence ? There is a clear connection. To become a good person he had to leave hinduism because there was no way he could have reformed himself into a peace loving person living as a hindu.
RE:Periyar was great friend of Jinnah
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:12 PM Permalink
R K Reddy, not only hindus but the buddhists also turn violent when they reach the threshold limit of tolerance. Have you heard of Shaolin Kangfu? That is Buddhist martial art!!!!! Even very recently the buddhist monks in Myanmar (Burma) turned against the military dictators!
RE:Periyar was great friend of Jinnah
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:20 PM Permalink
R K Reddy, Ashoka repented his own action of killing so many people in the battle of Kalinga. That has nothing to do with any religion. Hinduism is not a prosyletising religion and Ashoka did not kill anyone for propagating hinduism (unlike the Christian missionaries or the islamic invaders). That is the basic difference.
RE:Periyar was great friend of Jinnah
by nai on Aug 01, 2008 10:14 PM Permalink
Because hindus are peace loving, you terrorists are still roaming free and getting guts to speak nonsense on this forum. If you call ashoka a terrorist, do I need to mention what Aurangazeb, babar, ISI, HUJI, Indian Mujahideen should be called? Ashoka accepted Buddhism which is a subset of Hinduism itself. There is a mention of Gautam Buddha's incarnation in Bhagvatam and other puranas.
It is not easy to understand God if you are not his devotee. Our shaastras are coming directly from God. Since you are jealous of God, you are jealous of the shastras also.
RE:RE:Periyar was great friend of Jinnah
by R K Reddy on Aug 01, 2008 10:16 PM Permalink
Try telling this to Dalai Lama. Tell him that Buddhism is subset of hinduism and then hear wat he says hahaha
RE:RE:RE:Periyar was great friend of Jinnah
by V H on Aug 01, 2008 10:31 PM Permalink
This Reddy is a converted Reddy. Hence he is propping up Dalai Lama just like his masters in the west!
RE:Periyar was great friend of Jinnah
by nai on Aug 01, 2008 10:21 PM Permalink
But why I should tell him? Is he the authority?
We accept the shastras. Shastrasa have a mention of Buddha. Thats all.
We have only one authority : God. And anybody who repeats God's instructions (acaryas) are our authority.
Thsi world is like a big ocean and this ocean contains many dangerous philosophies and sectarian religions (sharks) which are ready to gulp you down anytime. But there is only one ship which can help you cross this ocean - BHAKTI - Devotion to God. Thats all.
and our shastras have very clearly mentioned this - God says - only my devotee can understand Me.
RE:Periyar was great friend of Jinnah
by V H on Aug 01, 2008 10:29 PM Permalink
Ashoka's acceptance of Buddhism has nothing to do with Hinduism being violent. Hinduism unlike monolithic religions provide flexibility to lead life in a practical sense. Ashoka's acceptance of Buddhism is because someone did a good job of convincing him that wars are not good. However, its a different matter that subsequent Indian generations became weak in art of war because of this decision by Ashoka which led to conquest by "religion of peace" from arabia!!
RE:Periyar was great friend of Jinnah
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:49 PM Permalink
Ram and Krishna were mytholical characters. Don't try to justify historical facts with something written in epics (stories).
RE:Fact is: nobody, not even court can touch Rama Setu by R K Reddy on Aug 01, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink Krishna encouraged arjun to become a terrorist and kill his own brothers.
RE:By Rk Reddy
by V H on Aug 01, 2008 10:34 PM Permalink
Dear converted Reddy... you need to go back to your father in your church who waiting with full gown and pants down!
RE:RE:By Rk Reddy
by V H on Aug 01, 2008 10:33 PM Permalink
Converted Reddy... please go back to your church... your dear father is waiting with full gown and pant inside down.
RE:By Rk Reddy
by nai on Aug 01, 2008 10:09 PM Permalink
reply: very foolish comparision. Have not you read bhagvad gita: yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharat - krishna asked arjun to fight against irreligion. and when arjun refuse dinitially, Krishna informed him that these people are already destined to die. Whether you fight or not, these people are not going back home from this battlefield. Who were these people? They were sin, cruelty, asuras personified. They insulted draupadi, tried to kill pandavas many times. Hinduism is not a coward religion. Hinduism says that you must fight against irreligion otherwise who will give protection to praja. But at the same time you should not unnecessary kill poor inncocent creatures (including animals). Terrorists are killing general praja, women and children. whereas Arjun gave full protection to those women, parents and children of those asuras he killed in battlefield. another thing, God is all merciful. If he would have left these asuras free, they would have committed more sins and went to hell. But god let them die in the battlefield, so they got delivered by God's mercy. Thats why it is said- it is not possible to understand God unless you are not his devotee.
Equating a kshatriya dharma with terrorism has exposed your true intentions on this forum.
RE:By Rk Reddy
by nai on Aug 01, 2008 10:17 PM Permalink
So if you should protect your brother at all costs no matter your brother is a criminal no.1 ? This shows how selfish people like you are.
You dont even know th eA B C of spiritual science and what you will understand Gita and God? People like you are classified by the shastras into four categories - grossly foolish, lowest among mankind, demoniac in nature, intelligence being stolen by illusion (maya).
Dharma of a kshatriya is to protect his praja irrespective of any sacrifices. Mr Reddy, bad time is awaiting you. You have crossed all limits to commit offences. very dangerous.
RE:By Rk Reddy
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:24 PM Permalink
Mr. Reddy only knows that a dead jew on a stick is holding all the entry tickets to the heaven. Nothing else will enter his pea sized brain.
RE:By Rk Reddy
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:15 PM Permalink
Neo-converts like you do not understand the meaning of the word "dharma" !!!! Dharma means duty and not religion. I have answered your question below. Why are you repeating the same rubbish?
RE:Even Pariyar's book abusing Rama (Sacchi Ramayana) is banned all over India
by Ras on Aug 01, 2008 10:06 PM Permalink
Idiot Reddy, King Ashoka did not do wars to spread any religion like the muslims did. When muslims invaded they invoked the armies by saying things like Jihad, kafirs ,idolatrous and Ghazi. Their wars were in the name of Alla and islam. NO hindu king ever invaded any land just to spread hindu religion. Understand this a55h0le....Ashoka became budda because he did not like the destruction caused by war , not because of any religion..
RE:Even Pariyar's book abusing Rama (Sacchi Ramayana) is banned all over India
by R K Reddy on Aug 01, 2008 10:08 PM Permalink
Why didnt he find peace in hinduism? Why did he have to leave Hinduism to become a good person ? Think!!! He realized he can never be away from violence and destruction if he remains hindu.
RE:Even Pariyar's book abusing Rama (Sacchi Ramayana) is banned all over India
by PKN on Aug 01, 2008 11:17 PM Permalink
R K Reddy
Jesus Christ lived and taught in the Middle East . How come less than 1% of the population there are Christians ? Why of all the three Abrahamic religions is Christianity almost extinct in the place it was born?
If you go to Jerusalam you will find only Telegu converts who go there on subsidized tours of the AP government.
RE:Even Pariyar's book abusing Rama (Sacchi Ramayana) is banned all over India
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:08 PM Permalink
Mr.R K Reddy, is there no end to your foolish questions? Ashoka was a king. He did not kill people himself. Those killed were in the soldiers who participated in the battle of Kalinga. He was upset at the death toll in the battle and decided to relinquish his position as a King and accepted Buddhism (buddhists beleive in the theory of Krama - they do not beleive in any god as such)
RE:Even Pariyar's book abusing Rama (Sacchi Ramayana) is banned all over India
by V H on Aug 01, 2008 10:38 PM Permalink
Converted Reddy...come back to Hinduism and practice peace.. its easy than where you are today..you can do meditation, yoga, dhyana and many more of tricks defined in dhyana maarga... if you don't like it.. go to bakthi maarga..with bhajans and such....which is much better than rable rousing christian priests..shouting at the top of their voice.
RE:Even Pariyar's book abusing Rama (Sacchi Ramayana) is banned all over India
by Avinash on Aug 01, 2008 10:17 PM Permalink
There was no religion called "hinduism" at that time. So no question of finding peace in hinduism!!!!!!!!!!
