We must presrve our anicent culuture and our ancient Dravadian Languages!As posted in my messages I have given view points!I ask all to Show one INSCRIPTION in Hindi or even sanskrit on our old monuments of Ashoka or others!All are in PALI ,BRAHMI and amcient Dravadin Languages![edit] Notable inscriptions Important inscriptions include the 33 inscriptions of emperor Ashoka on the Pillars of Ashoka (272 to 231 BCE), Hathigumpha inscription, the Rabatak inscription, the Kannada Halmidi inscription, and the Tamil copper-plate inscriptions. The oldest known inscription in the Kannada language, referred to as the Halmidi inscription for the tiny village of Halmidi near where it was found, consists of sixteen lines carved on a sandstone pillar and dates to 450 AD.[5]
[edit] Hathigumpha inscription The Hathigumpha inscription ("Elephant Cave" inscription) from Udayagiri near Bhubaneshwar in Orissa was written by Kharavela, the king of Kalinga in India during the 2nd century BCE. The Hathigumpha inscription consists of seventeen lines incised in deep cut Brahmi letters on the overhanging brow of a natural cavern called Hathigumpha on the southern side of the Udayagiri hill near Bhubaneswar in Orissa. It faces straight toward the rock Edicts of Asoka at Dhauli located about six miles away." We must preserve our old heritage ,ancient languages Kannadda ,Telgu ,Tamil ,Malayalm and rspect all national languages!
RE:We must prerve our ancient culuture !Our original languages such as Kannadda ,Tamil ,Telgu ,Malayalm must be declers Heritage Languages of India!All INSCRIPTION are in ancient languages on all our old Monuments herutage Temples etc.!
by mahabodhi on Apr 29, 2008 12:21 PM Permalink
History and Research Since 1886 there have been systematic attempts to collect and catalogue these inscriptions, along with the translation and publication of documents.[3] Inscriptions may be in Br%u0101hm%u012B script or Tamil-Brahmi script or Kannada script or even the still undeciphered Indus script. Royal inscriptions were also engraved on copper-plates as were the Copper-plate grant. Tamil-Brahmi was an early script used in the inscriptions on Edicts of Ashoka and later evolved into the Tamil Vatteluttu script.[4]
RE:RE:We must prerve our ancient culuture !Our original languages such as Kannadda ,Tamil ,Telgu ,Malayalm must be declers Heritage Languages of India!All INSCRIPTION are in ancient languages on all our old Monuments herutage Temples etc.!
by mahabodhi on Apr 29, 2008 12:25 PM Permalink
Indian inscriptions From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search
An example of the Vatteluttu script from an inscription by Rajaraja Chola I at the Brihadisvara temple in Thanjavur. Brahmi script from Kanheri CavesIndian inscriptions are an important source of information about India's ancient history. Inscriptions are found engraved on the faces of cliffs, on pillars, on tablets of stone, drawn in caves and on rocks, some gouged into the bedrock. Later they were also inscribed on palm leaves, coins, copper plates, and on temple walls. Many of the inscriptions are couched in extravagant language, but when the information gained from inscriptions can be corroborated with information from other sources such as still existing monuments or ruins, inscriptions provide insight into India's dynasties that flourished long ago.[1]
More than 55% of the epigraphical inscriptions, about 55,000, found by the Archaeological Survey of India in India are in Tamil language[2]
We must delare our ancient languages such as Dravdian Languages Kannadda ,Tamil ,Telgu and Malayalam as Heritage Language!It is our Duty to see that tyese ancient Languages thrive and prosper and be accepted as Heritage Languages!We are already having 3 language Formula in practice!We must preserve our culture and ancient Indian Languages!
RE:one more KRV Terrorist Udupi Rajagopalacharya Ananthamurthy has risen now... but am wondering how come he is
by mahabodhi on Apr 29, 2008 12:29 PM Permalink
@To call our ancient and heritage languages SHIT shows your Charcter!Please accept the truth and respect Indian Culutre and ancient Indian Languages as our culture and ancient heritage!
RE:one more KRV Terrorist Udupi Rajagopalacharya Ananthamurthy has risen now... but am wondering how come he is
by nagaraj k on Apr 29, 2008 12:34 PM Permalink
The people eating shit thy will talk like you see the TN the state is banned Hindi including news
URA may be well renowned author but of late he is walking around with blinkers to his eyes. URA, please note that one cannot force others to learn a language unless there is an economic or social reason to do so. In a communist set up like china there is scope for enforcing such strictures through governments. However, in a free democracy like ours practices and cultures are picked up only if they are relevant to day to day living.
Even if you want to force one and all in KA to learn Kannada, which dialect will you teach? Bangalore, Mysore, Mangalore, Dharwad, Gulbarga?
I can only think that you are a selfish person who wants to enforce educating kannada on one hand, and on the other hand write books in kannada so that you get better visibility, bigger market and hence better income.
Karnataka has either already acquired or fast acquiring the tag of a rogue state. These people have a scant respect for the Supreme court order. They have river & border disputes with all neighbouring states. Compared to other neighbouring states such as Maharashtra, Tamilnadu, AP & Kerala, their language & culture is least known in the world compared to other neighbouring states. Therefore, this is giving raise to jealousy and they have a inferiority complex and insecure about their language & culture leading to Linguistic chauvinism. People are lazy. Therefore they depend on other states' people to develop. This gives rise to lingusitic terrorist organisations such as KANNADA RAKSHANA VEDIKE OR KANNADA CHALUVALI etc., Some of the disputes with neighbours: Karnataka vs. MH over Belgaum, Karnataka vs. Kerala over Kasargod, Karnataka vs. Goa over water, Karnataka vs. AP over Almatti,Krishna. Karnataka vs. TN over Cauvery,Hogenekkal They have built several check dams illegally over the rivers flowing in their states (WATER THIEVES!!). The big joke is that they have scant respect for other languages of their own state %u2013 TULU, KONKANI, COORGI. They have scant respect for COORG culture, Konkani culture and will not take steps to protect or develop.
RE:Karnataka ........... a rogue State?
by rajeev r on Apr 29, 2008 02:12 PM Permalink
This Global analyst must be an Tamilian. Reasons for the above issues.
Karnataka vs. MH over Belgaum, -- Maharashtrians migrated to Belgaum in huge numbers & claiming that Belgaum belongs to Maharashtra (Same as problem of Mumbai -- outsiders dominance).. Karnataka vs. Kerala over Kasargod, -- No need to tell anything. Ask anybody in Kasargod. All the peole in Kasargod knows Kannada & their mother tongue is either Tulu/ Kannada. What is the wrong with KRV, if MNS can fight for Mumbai, why can't KRV fight for Karnataka? Karnataka vs. Goa over water, --Goa is doing ploitics for Drinking water projects. Karnataka vs. AP over Almatti,Krishna. AP is illigaly building dams & check dams allover Thungabhadra & Krishna for utilizing Karnataka's share of water. Karnataka vs. TN over Cauvery,Hogenekkal As everybody knows Tamilian's think that they can get elephant's share of cauvry water by shouting till their mouth is teared.
So, it's not problem with Karnataka. It's the problem with surrounding states which are trying to take the advantage Kannada peoples innocence.
RE:Karnataka ........... a rogue State?
by Abdul Salam on Apr 29, 2008 12:32 PM Permalink
This stupid guy is talking about Tulu, Konkani & Kodava who enjoy the freedom & prospering in Karnataka. Do you know what Tamil Nadu government has done for the Toda speaking people in the hill districts of Niligiri. Todas and their culture are becoming extinct due to the domination of Tamil in those hill district. How dare you call Karnataka a rougue state when you tamil people are known for producing women & child bombers who also killed our PM and several incocent people in Srilanka.
RE:Karnataka ........... a rogue State?
by Global Analyst on Apr 29, 2008 01:19 PM Permalink
Are, Abdul thum koun be, ye poochne ke liye. Naanu Tamilian antha eru helido? Neevu enu maadhtha idiya illi. Go to Pak/bangi/Saudi. Get killed in Fidayin. Get lost. Dont talk about our Indian langauages / culture.
RE:Karnataka ........... a rogue State?
by Abdul Salam on Apr 29, 2008 02:56 PM Permalink
Tera baap. Ye be tum kyon angrez blog mein tamil kyon likthe ho.
RE:Karnataka ........... a rogue State?
by mahabodhi on Apr 29, 2008 01:04 PM Permalink
@abdul slam "'Whose house is of glass, must not throw stones at another " Is your id genuine? May Allah bless you and your family!
RE:RE:Karnataka ........... a rogue State?
by mahabodhi on Apr 29, 2008 01:08 PM Permalink
[edit] Language The Toda language is a member of the Dravidian family. Like their ethnology, the language is aberrant and difficult phonologically. It is now recognized that Toda (along with its neighbor Kota) is a member of the southern subgroup of the historical family proto-South-Dravidian; it split off from South Dravidian, after Kannada and Telegu, but before Malayam. In modern linguistic terms, the aberrancy of Toda results from disproportionately numerous rules, both early and recent in their ordering, which are not shared by the other South Dravidian languages (and shared only to a small extent by Kota)[1] They used to be strict vegetarians but some can be now be seen eating non-vegetarian food. Although many Toda have abandoned their traditional distinctive huts for concrete houses,[5] a movement is now afoot to build tradition barrel-vaulted huts and during the last decade forty new huts have been built and many Toda sacred dairies renovated
RE:Karnataka ........... a rogue State?
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 12:20 PM Permalink
Hey Mr. Analyst.. You are going to conclusions based on a very limited set of premises.. Belgaum issue- Karnataka has Belgaum. MH is fighting. Not Karnataka. Kasargod Issue- Kerala has it, Ka is fighting. So if it has gained a city and lost a city.
Ka vs Goa over water. - Please elaborate. Ka Vs AP over Almatti- Have a look at the people in NK. Drinking water is a rare commodity. They are not asking for more water to grow rice, as the TN guys do. The crops are low on water consumption too.
Ka vs TN over cauveri- This is the fight for riches and exploitation. TN part of the cauvery basin grows crop which are water intensive such as rice. They belonged historically to a stronger British govt. which got the rules in its favor. Pity nothing much can be changed now.
About the other languages you speak of, you are probably right. Educate me on this, about the %ge of population speaking these languagess, and what the govt has done and what according to you should be done for these languages.
Theodore Roosevelt: It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows achievement and who at the worst if he fails at least fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
From a speech given in Paris at the Sorbonne in 1910 I am sorry if I hurt your sentiments!I wrote about the National Heritage and ancient languages !And I still persist that we must seek truth even at cost of life!I have no ill feelings for You!
The language probelm do exist! Hindi has made inroads even in south because of the Bollywood! Hindi has been progressing in South where Muslim population is considerable!As in Hyderabad!The Muslims Telgu had been speaking Deccanvi-hindvi a la Mahmood - also the Marwadis rule in trade !Their influence and interaction with loacal population has introduced the Hindi Also in Kerala where Muslims has considerable population these Muslims too have been speaking Deccanvi-hindvi which is also as good as Hindi!That's why there is hardly any resisitance to Hindi in these areas of these Soutern states to Hindi as compared to other southern states!And where Muslim are considerable the communal tensions too flare up giving BJP to make inroads there! The Indian society is churning and one hopes that a new prosperous India will emerge!So for promoting Hindi is south in some areas the role of Bollywood and even muslim population has much impact!But now when all states are making the knowledge of the State language compulsory for State Govt. jobs up to 10th Class the role of Indian languages will grow!And it is healthy sign for we can not annhilate our thosands of years of culture !The Dravidian languages has been more advanced ancient than so called new Hindi which is in fact Urdu/ Avadhi in Devnagri script!If one were to look for ancient script on old monuments even in North not one single INSCRIPTION is in Hindi or even Sanskrit but in Pali or brahmi!So do presrv original languages
RE:The language probelm is not new! If Hindi has made inroads even in South it it is because of Bollywood and Muslims!
by mahabodhi on Apr 29, 2008 11:56 AM Permalink
But now when all states are making the knowledge of the State language compulsory for State Govt. jobs up to 10th Class the role of Indian languages will grow!And it is healthy sign for we can not annhilate our thosands of years of culture !The Dravidian languages has been more advanced ancient than so called new Hindi which is in fact Urdu/ Avadhi in Devnagri script!If one were to look for ancient script on old monuments even in North not one single INSCRIPTION is in Hindi or even Sanskrit but in Pali or brahmi!So do presrve original languages such as Kannadd ,Telgu ,Tamil, Maalyalalm as these are original and anicent languages of India ans we Indians should be proud of these great languages! And I ask again to all Show me one Incription on old Indian Monuments where Hindi or even Sankrit is written on the inscription on monuments!All Inscriptions even in North are in PAL or Brahmi !We must be proud of our ancient Dravadian languages and must preserve them !That's our Natioanl Heritage and it is our Nationa Duty to preserve these original Indian Dravdian Languages !Jai Hind!
You have to give total freedom to people to speak whatever langauge they want to. Govt. cant control it. Today english, hindi is spoken as link language in india. To people who cant speak other's lang. Thats good. So when two marthi people are meeting they can talk in marathi, but if he is meeting guy from south, north. he has to talk in either hindi or english. He cant expect that guy to learn marathi. thats simple. All the demand coming now days to force kannada or marathi to outsider is nothing but sick game. They are stoping indian talent to get settled in any part of india and make economy grow. and this is so viatal for growth, job creation. If u anlayse any city u will find that the outsider has done maximum contribution to the growth of business, infrastructure. u have to respect them, cant force them to learn your language. u speak your language marathi, kannad at home, friend. why should u force it to others ?
RE:Language cant be forced on others.
by rajeev r on Apr 29, 2008 02:17 PM Permalink
We are not forcing the language on you. You want to earn your bread in Bangalore, but why can't you learn Kannada? If you don't want to learn who cares... I think MNS are the correct people to teach narthies rather than friendly South Indians
RE:Language cant be forced on others.
by sanjay kumar on Apr 29, 2008 01:22 PM Permalink
i agree there are thousands of languages and dialects in the world how can one expect a person learn all this languages.
Actually, this writer has thrown many points, but rediff highlighted only language part to add masala. In my opinion, everybody should respect his own culture and language, but not by disrespecting other culture and languages. If a person think that Hindi, Kannada or any language is best language, then he/she is the biggest fool. Problem lies with attitude. I don't expect anyone to come in delhi and start talking with me in Telugu/Tamil or Kannnada, so why should I expect that they'll talk to me in Hindi, when I visit those states? Again, solution will not be beating someone on street or burning taxis. All states, particularly those cities where outsiders reside, should have proper learning centre of their own languages. English-Lang/ Hindi-Lang Books should be made available easily on all book stalls. Locals should put a website to teach language. That should be way dear, when you say - voluntarily learn Kannada (or any language).
RE:What's wrong in learning an extra language?
by nitin k on Apr 29, 2008 11:38 AM Permalink
Point noted Prasoon. Their were a couple of pdf's floating around in mail chains teaching the basics of kannada.. something similar needs to be done, on a larger scale, in each city where there is a large migrant population.
