RE:Support Tulu
by Pradip Parekh on Apr 05, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
the jews were always an oppressed community in all parts of very powerful xtian europe. still they kept tehir hebrew language alive all on their own despite all the odds. tulu people face no such odds. if you love your language enough, you don't need state help.
RE:Support Tulu
by ganesan krishnan on Apr 05, 2008 03:53 AM Permalink
Thats the same case with konkani, coorgi as well. But i believe and feel sorry that the game has been lost. Both good and bad thing is these communities did not have a vattal nagaraj figure to gain headline space :(
Let me add few more points to the already posted information. Many kannada friends why the Hogenakkal has been chosen for the project and not mettur. Mettur reservoir is surrounded in the north by Shervaroyan hills, the meeting point of eastern ghats and a part of western ghats. It is practically impossible and extremely expensive to lay huge pipes thro' these mountains. Morover mettur is in lower riparian region than Hogenakkal, Dharmapuri and Krishanagiri districts.
Secondly, Hogenakkal can be the only ideal place from where huge quantities of water can be pumped due to its depth and its eastward inclination towards Dharmapuri. So the TN project is entirely genuine and valid
RE:Why only Hogenakkal?
by Impartial on Apr 04, 2008 11:50 PM Permalink
You seem to have done a lot study before expressing your views..otherwise most people especially Kannadigas tend to argue based on perception and prejudice rather than hard facts. It is undeniable that while TN has always taken the legal route to resolve the problem, Karnatak has fought the issue on the streets showing utmost contempt for rule of law, the constitution of this nation and the basic tenets of fairness and justice. Mr Krishna will be remembered as a CM who defied the Supreme Court and the tribunal and was righly censured by the Supreme Court. Now the same person talks about procedures, cooperation ad what not !! Karnataka politicians have used "talks" as an effective way to avoid a solution to the dispute. The TN CM should not fall prey to such tactics.instead he should complete the project with a firm resolve.
RE:Why only Hogenakkal?
by saigeetha jagannathan on Apr 04, 2008 09:48 PM Permalink
You cant deny the law of nature that water flows from higher to lower level.
RE:Why only Hogenakkal?
by JOHN THOMAS on Apr 05, 2008 12:50 PM Permalink
TN always take cases as sentimental and have issues with kerala too. Mullaperiyar is a fit case here. Tamilnadu want water butt do not want to bother about safety of people and condition of a 100 plus year old dam built with lime and surki. If TN is sincere, first thing they should come for a one to one talk and agree for a new dam and show to people that they care for human life also instead of making arguments at all levels.
RE:Why only Hogenakkal?
by Pradip Parekh on Apr 05, 2008 01:28 PM Permalink
as long as congress has a chance of winning in south, no problem will be resolved no matter how apparent the solution might be. a congressi rule in any state only means that that state in vulnerable to silly divisions. elect a bjp govt if you are serious about solving monumental problems. learn from other bjp ruled states - it is common sense decision at this point in history.
RE:Why only Hogenakkal?
by saigeetha jagannathan on Apr 08, 2008 01:55 PM Permalink
Mr. Parekh, Its BJP that fuelled this already settled issue ahead of Karnataka's election for votes. No party is interested in solving any issue for that matter, whether its BJP or Congress. They gain only by fuelling people sentiments, creating rifts among different communities and erode the very basics of democracy. These issues should be left to concerned people like farmers, geologists and engineers(for ex,in Hogenakkal dispute) to solve the matter more scientifically than emotionally. Another mode of functioning for these parties to keep people ignorant of the facts so that they react more emotionally rather than introspecting. I believe this to be modus operandi of politicians in creating enmity between KN and TN people.
RE:Tulu Language destroyed by KANNADA
by saigeetha jagannathan on Apr 04, 2008 09:56 PM Permalink
Dear Voice, I agree with you Tulu evolved along with malayalam and is quite different from Kannada. Everyone will agree with me that Karnataka politicians(dominated by southern districts) never really lend their support to other indigenous people of KN like Tulu speaking communities in coastal karnataka, Coorgis and people from north and central karnataka. They are busy creating rifts between Tamils and Kannadigas with the help of useless vedika activists and keep the settled matters ever burning.
Whose cooperation Krishna wants? Tamilnadu's?. Tamilnadu is at the receiving end all the time and how can he expect cooperation from TN?. In what way, TN can cooperate. Karnataka has to cooperate by not opposing this drinking water project and stop propagating false information about the whole issue. Does he want TN people to send back all waters back to Karnataka?. How absurd?.
Most of the people of India are ignorant about the geography of south India and think everyone as 'Madrasi'. The water war between Tamil Nadu and Karnataka has been a long standing problem which the Congress Governments over a period have never bothered to solve. I thank you for highlighting the problems of the people of Tamil Nadu who have been deprived of their legitimate share of water all these years.Congress depends on the votes of Tamil Naduz to form a govt. in the centre. People of Tamil Nadu should unite together and not vote for congress in the next election to teach a lesson
RE:Tamilians are rulers of IT industry in Bangalore. So Tamilnadu claims ownership of bangalore. And Devegowda holding his underwear tightly.
by Umashankara sharma on Apr 04, 2008 07:16 PM Permalink
Ahaaa.... Revolutionary.. Swalpa Baggi bidi.... !
Morover, every year Karnataka gets more rainfall due to south west monsoon along the western ghats similar to kerala whereas TN is in water shadow region but gets from North east monsoon primarily by cyclones. About 8 years back,the north east monsoon failed and karnataka failed to release even half of the allocated water, farmers were at the verge of collapse as all the three types of paddy crops destryed due to severe drought. TN Govt again came to the rescue by waiving all the loans provided by Tamilnadu Cooperative societies. The good thing is that TN farmers never borrow money from money lenders and hence survive even during acute crisis.
RE:Crisis
by vsgiri on Apr 04, 2008 08:07 PM Permalink
Most of the people of India are ignorant about the geography of south India and think everyone as 'Madrasi'. The water war between Tamil Nadu and Karnataka has been a long standing problem which the Congress Governments over a period have never bothered to solve. I thank you for ighlighting the problems of the people of Tamil Nadu who have been deprived of their legitimate share of water all these years.Congress depends on the votes of Tamil Naduz to form a govt. in the centre. People of Tamil Nadu should unite together and not vote for congress in the next election to teach a lesson
Everytime Karnataka cried that it was meted out injustice by the Supreme court and the Tribunal and denied to obey the orders vehementely. Supreme court and tribunal ordered based on the all the points described by the previous posts and much more. Remember the centre sends grievence committee every year to these states to access the situation. Its TN who suffered despite of the court's order. I am sure Karnataka people are always misguided and provoked by their politicians and vedike activists regarding these facts for their narrow political gains. But the irony is Tamilnadu and its people are always blamed for these issues. Its like punishing the victims. I found some north indian friends who are mixing up Hindi/Tamil(or Ram setu) debate with this issue and abuse Tamils. If you dont know, kindly refrain from making such absurd comments By meting out severe injustice to TN people on all these issues, now they are hell bent to derail the drinking water supply project(which they have already agreed in exchange of Bangalore water supply project) to two heavily water starved districts of northern TN(that too from TN's side). Have humanistic feelings towards your brothers and sisters.
Cauvery flows for a distance of 475 miles from Coorg hills in Karnataka to Bayof Bengal in southeastward direction. It travels for ~100 miles inside Karnataka. KN constructed an artificial channel of 72 miles inside KN to divert water to more areas. In TN, it travels nearly 320 miles baring Pondicherry. Karnataka built two huge dams namely Krishrajasagar(KRS) and Kabini for 100 miles whereas TN has a major reservoir in Mettur and a comparatively smaller but ancient Grand Anicut(Kallanai - built ny Karikalachola 1700 years ago) for 320 mile lengthy river.
Water is stored in KRS and Kabini reservoirs in full throughout the year and release less quantity than the allocated share. Whenever there is heavy rainfall in water catchment area (i.e.Western ghats), excess water is suddenly released flooding the whole heavily cultivated plains of TN forcing people to live in distress. Karnataka uses TN just as the drainage channel to let excess water.
Now readers can tell us who is acting as the big brother and who suffers?.
