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do commies believe in heaven?
by Pradip Parekh on Sep 02, 2007 04:24 AM  Permalink 

i didn't think commies believed in heaven. the used-bus salesman pm mm singh obviously couldn't convince the commies that the bus will go to heaven.

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Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Ramesh Nittoor on Sep 02, 2007 01:03 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The power problem is beset with distribution bottleneck. First being rampant power theft and highly subsidised rates to chosen few. Next being archaic laws which does not permit rationalisation of ownership to disaggregated institutional holdings including private sector. These are political-legal issues, if resolved shall spur rapid growth rates in power generation, mirroring telecom revolution.

N-deal will definitely improve access to whole gamout of nuclear power generation technlogies available worldwide. If private sector invesments are also permitted, even then, nuclear power can bridge the power gap only in the long run.

Obstuse insinuations like " subjugation ...to imperialist powers." distracts from real issues, confirms that the age of reason has not dawned yet in Indian polity. To clinch the deal we may first indeed need renaissance of kind Voltaire wrote about!

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RE:RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Serious on Sep 02, 2007 04:26 AM  Permalink
AHA Niharika,
So you are a Male on woman's Sari. Good going. Keep it up.
Next time, when the deal is passed, you wont get petrolium jelly imported from Saudi Arabia to put on your a*ss. Feel sorry for your partners- Mr A B Bardhan and Mr Prakash Karat!

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RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Niharika Sharma on Sep 02, 2007 03:59 AM  Permalink
22. every new statiums, institutes are named after either neheru, indira or rajib. why nt after bhagat singh, subhas, khudiram ? r the contribution of the first three more then the next three?
23. Brings world bank rule through Monmohan, montek
24. Party of opportunism. If cong were in opposition they would have opposed the deal for sure. They will do anything for power.
As if we dont know who raped this nation for 60 yrs. Its becoz of this great cong history, many doubts them. many questions blind signing of deal. u never know for whom they r signing it, for monmohan, for sonia, for itly, for US ...no idea

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RE:RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Serious on Sep 02, 2007 03:52 AM  Permalink
you are a prostitute of the chinese males. Go to toilet with a Banana thinking about some chinese comrade.

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RE:RE:RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Niharika Sharma on Sep 02, 2007 04:01 AM  Permalink
i m yr sister.

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RE:RE:RE:RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Niharika Sharma on Sep 02, 2007 04:22 AM  Permalink
however i doubt if u r son of my mother bharatmata. she never taught any of her kid to disrespect her females, sisters, daughters. by yr actions u r proving yr own lineage.

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RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Serious on Sep 02, 2007 04:04 AM  Permalink
Hi Niharika Sharma,
Sorry, but I cannot let someone like you to be my sister. You do NOT deserve to be any Indian's sister. Find a chinese.


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RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Niharika Sharma on Sep 02, 2007 04:16 AM  Permalink
now u have started disowning yr legittimate sister also. who knows after the deal is over you will look back to india and say the same thing to yr motherland.

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RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Injun Abhi on Sep 02, 2007 07:56 AM  Permalink
Hey Serious, does your own mother or sister go to toilet with a banana thinking about an Indian non-communist? Stop abusing people and discuss the topic like a gentleman.

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RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Niharika Sharma on Sep 02, 2007 03:50 AM  Permalink
Cong record card:
1. Divide the nation on religion line
2. Bringing emergency
3. Bringing corruption in public sector
4. License raj
5. Bofors deal
6. Supplying arms to NE militant and LTTE
7. Killing innocent sikhs in 1984
8. Bringing Dynastic rule indirectly and slave mentality in the nation. Rahul Gandhi, Mr,Sindhia, Mr.Pilot, Mr.Prasad, it endless, the yound generation in cong from east to west, north to south symoblises the dynastic culture. thats their future.
9. Preindependence they supported the rich lanlorad, post independence they run the country for ppl like bajaj
10. Why is that Sindhiya, Pilot, Rajendra prasha whoever opposes Sonia dies within shot span in accident ? or some invisible hands r behind these murders.
11. Killer of Netaji Bose
12. Gandhiji wanted congres to do social works only, Neheru made it his family business.
13. Why Indira dumps her husband just after taking the gandhi surname?
14. Whos behind Sanjay Gandhi's death ?
15. Rajiv remains silent during Shaho Bano case.
16. Babri Masjid is demolished when cong at centre.
17. China takes away Arunachal and Assam under the rule of spineless character neheru. Netaji would have never let that happen.
18. Neheru braught flawed socialism in India
19. Cong had the culture of throwing democratically elected state govt. Very clear who is in favour of democracy
20. Takes India into war and brings inflation and poverty in 1971. Very clear who needs poor people
21. Cong popula

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RE:RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Serious on Sep 02, 2007 03:53 AM  Permalink
dear Niharika,
you are a prostitute of the chinese males. Go to toilet with a Banana thinking about some chinese comrade.

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RE:RE:RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Niharika Sharma on Sep 02, 2007 04:03 AM  Permalink
hello brother! how r u ?

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RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Ramesh Nittoor on Sep 02, 2007 06:36 PM  Permalink
Niharika Sharma,
Some of your 24 points observation are valid but all are irrelvant to the context. The issue presently is technology policy to circumvent NSG blockade constricting economic development. There are also serious political issues on which both LEFT and BJP/NDA are step by step, making UPA clarify policy paramters on various counts, so as to avoid various risks fraught in these complex negotiations. It is responsible handling by all parties concerned which needs to be lauded.

There is a REAL risk of India succumbing to 'lower orbit' of sovreignity the way Australia, Japan are. To get the N-deal and NSG-inclusion, to be able to setup common security architecture without compromising on 'swatantrata' ideals and non-alignment policy, to take further steps in NSSP are very difficult exercises.

Your free India spirit is laudable and shall triumph, it presents a refreshing contrast to crass vulgarity bereft of 'Bharatiyata'.

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RE:RE:RE:RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Serious on Sep 02, 2007 04:05 AM  Permalink
Hi Niharika,
Come to yahoo messenger.

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RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Niharika Shamra on Sep 02, 2007 08:03 AM  Permalink
What is your yahoo id? Mail me the yahoo id to nniharika_sharma@rediffmail.com. I will come to messenger my brother. We need to talk about this.

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RE:Obtuse Hyperbole Clouding The Age of Reason
by Vishnu Sharma on Sep 02, 2007 01:46 AM  Permalink
Even 300 years from now the left will be using terms like "Comprador capitalism", Exploitation of
the masses, Proletariat Blah...Blah...
The more these people open their mouths.
The more they confirm that they are literally zombies from another age and another time.

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Gates of Hell will open once India starts listening to the left
by S on Sep 02, 2007 12:52 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The educted class need to dissociate itself from their patrnoge of the left parties. Under the garb of some mumbo-jumbo concoction marginal nationalism and stalinism, the left seems to have the media and elite under a spell. Anything they say is regarded with respect while all the facts point to a need of opposite reaction. Left had never been an ally of Indian society's emancipation nor they will be any time sooner. Their main aim is to ride the muslim vote and act as secret agents of the communist axis.

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RE:Gates of Hell will open once India starts listening to the left
by Indian JaiHind on Sep 02, 2007 01:48 AM  Permalink
I think the best solution would be to push the nation for another General Elections. Then this left would just get Less than 10 seats because They will be beaten to death in Kerala and west Bengol. Once they just get less than 10 seats, They will just shut their mouth and they will just get lost and they wont bark again.

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RE:Gates of Hell will open once India starts listening to the left
by Injun Abhi on Sep 02, 2007 09:29 AM  Permalink
Niharika, it is not really that simple. The reason the communists have to be removed from the face of this earth is that they have politcized the entire system and brought 'lethargy' into the system. In Bengal, the lower middle class does not want to work, they just join the party as 'party cadres' and expect the party to take care of them. How? The party representatives take bribes/protection-money everywhere and pass it on to the cadres. The rich will pay up for them ... be it industry, be it real-estate, be it automobiles ...this money will be circulated to compensate for the unemployed youth coming out of the left-politicized educational institutions and joining its ranks as cadres. This is exactly what Jyoti babu has done in the last 30 years. Basu has not done anything for the state, but the party loves him because he has brought a lot of money into the party by this one simple mechanism. Politicize education and create unemployment, politicize the ministry and create the mechanism of bribery... the unemployment of youth will be compensted by the money paid by the rich. Maybe in other states also corruption is rampant, but it is not a structured part of the 'system' as the communists have made it in Bengal. That is why today Buddhadeb Bhattacharya is having such a tough time to change the system, because people simply won't work! They still expect the party to take care of them! This is what communism will do to you .. teach you that wealth should be equally distribute

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Our culture is our pride
by Sunil Agrawal on Sep 01, 2007 11:58 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Anything coming from the West (birthday cake, hand shake, ribbon cutting etc.) considered secular but anything coming from Indian culture (Bharat mata, namaste, surya namskar etc) are considered as communal. This is just slavery and disrespect to our traditions.

A person can change any faith or religion but can not change his/her culture, traditions, customs and ancestors.

Our culture is our pride and identity.



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RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 12:08 AM  Permalink
Sunil,

Look like you sleep with your eyes OPEN.

What Culture and Tradition are you talking about.



I came to India last year...Look at our tradition and culture in today's youth...I was ashamed...Look at the dress or the lack of it in these girls today...In my days there were one or two girls wearing jeans in college...Now they are wearing shorts...



And How can you say that a person cannot change his Culture, traditions...



I also see old parents come to the US. The Mother gets rid of her saari/kurta and starts wearing pants...



Look at our films...they more pathetic than western films...Check out the ITEM/MASALA songs...Do you still believe that culture/traditions are not Changing...



Some changes are for Good (Eradication of Cast system, Sati)...some are bad...(Our dress code, family structures, Values etc)



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RE:Our culture is our pride
by Dande Waala on Sep 02, 2007 12:26 AM  Permalink
Mr Imran, stop being an orthodox goat and start accepting things. A women clad in a saree can represent Indian culture as much as a women dancing in an Item song. Culture is not a scripted manual of dos and donts, it is merely a perspective. 90%b of Indians struggle abroad just because they come here with a rudimentary mindset. They are not flexible enough to adapt to the foreign culture. Open your mind, start learning about other cultures to appreciate them and please let go of this 60s Indian mindset.

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RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:03 AM  Permalink
What do you mean by culture and values the..Please define...

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RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 12:39 AM  Permalink
I strongly oppose ur narrow minded views abt girls. u have no right to ask a girl wot to wear. its better to wear a skirt than to wear a burqa and stay in oblivion forever. the burqa is the biggest symbol of women suppresion in islam. get rid of it and liberate muslim women

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RE:RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:05 AM  Permalink
I am not proposing that woman wear the BURKHA. Our friend Sunil suggested that Culture and Traditions do not change...I think that is a FALSE statement.





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RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by Mar Thoma on Sep 02, 2007 01:21 AM  Permalink
WE INDIANS SHOULD STOP WATCHING FOOLISH FILMS.



we know the story boy meets girl - then LOVE happens,rain comes Dance & song, they fights against evil forces, ITEM girl comes ...

Why watch it again and again?

(BOLLYWOOD, KOLLYWOOD ETC)



We should throw these idots out of this country.



INSTED WE SHOULD TRY TO GET ATLESAT 1 GOLD MEDAL AT OLYMBICS.



OTHERWISE IT IS A NATIONAL SHAME.



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RE:Our culture is our pride
by Dande Waala on Sep 02, 2007 12:32 AM  Permalink
Sunil, our culture no doubt is our pride and identity but even more than that it is an excuse to hide our fears. It is an excuse to curb our freedom. Traditions/culture or customs are the teachings that you get from your ancestors and pass on to your next gens. There is nothing right or wrong here, it's just a perspective. To expect everyone to have a perspective as good or as bad as yours is not correct. just my $.02

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RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:02 AM  Permalink
What culture and traditions are we talking about guys...



India is swimming in the pool of corruption, deceit, bribery and FRAUD...



This has continued from generation to generation. Is this also passed by for ancestors ? We sure have picked it up from someone.



The idea of glorifying our culture and tradition is insane. I am sorry, but I do not see anything great about it.



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RE:Our culture is our pride
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 01:14 AM  Permalink
This is wot ur problem is, whn we try to accomodate u n compromise u guys try to sit on our head n thn u blame us whn we retaliate and u start playin the minority card.

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RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:17 AM  Permalink
What do you mean by accomodate ? Is that a favor you are doing ? We live in India because it is our country...Not because of someone ACCOMODATION.



And stop this minority card BS. If our culture was so superior than other cultures, then why are we still a "DEVELOPING" nation for the last 60 years ?

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RE:RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by Dande Waala on Sep 02, 2007 04:07 AM  Permalink
LOL Niharika, can we see your report card as well!!

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RE:Our culture is our pride
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 01:19 AM  Permalink
its bcoz of u that we are still a developing nation. shutdown all madrassas and throw away all commies

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RE:Our culture is our pride
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 01:24 AM  Permalink
listen am nt gettin into an argument with u nemore on this issues. i ll see u in another forumm on this subject as n when it comes. bye

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RE:Our culture is our pride
by Dande Waala on Sep 02, 2007 01:31 AM  Permalink
the yoyo never stops. Good going guys instead of blaming each other try eating your own rotten dog food first. I don't know how to define culture and I don't know what cultures you follow but I certainly know that settling scores by blaming each other for everything wrong isn't a part of my culture.

The disturbing fact is that Gandhi was as corrupt as Ghazni then and BJP is as corrupt as Congress or commies now and our so called narrow mindedness doesn't even let us vote these people out of power.

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RE:Our culture is our pride
by Niharika Sharma on Sep 02, 2007 03:40 AM  Permalink
Cong record card:

1. Divide the nation on religion line

2. Bringing emergency

3. Bringing corruption in public sector

4. License raj

5. Bofors deal

6. Supplying arms to NE militant and LTTE

7. Killing innocent sikhs in 1984

8. Bringing Dynastic rule indirectly and slave mentality in the nation. Rahul Gandhi, Mr,Sindhia, Mr.Pilot, Mr.Prasad, it endless, the yound generation in cong from east to west, north to south symoblises the dynastic culture. thats their future.

9. Preindependence they supported the rich lanlorad, post independence they run the country for ppl like bajaj

10. Why is that Sindhiya, Pilot, Rajendra prasha whoever opposes Sonia dies within shot span in accident ? or some invisible hands r behind these murders.

11. Killer of Netaji Bose

12. Gandhiji wanted congres to do social works only, Neheru made it his family business.

13. Why Indira dumps her husband just after taking the gandhi surname?

14. Whos behind Sanjay Gandhi's death ?

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RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:23 AM  Permalink
Same OLD Tradition...Blame others for your/our problems... Here is a list

1. Gazni

2. Mugals

3. British

4. Gandhi

5. Nehru Family/Dynasty

6. LEFT

7. Pakistan

8. China

9. Manmohan

10. RSS?VHP/Bajarang Dal...

11. Modi etc...



We sure got this TRADITION of blaming other for our problems from our ancestors...Nothing new about this...

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RE:Our culture is our pride
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 01:07 AM  Permalink
corruption, deceit, bribery and FRAUD is nt culture. these are called crimes. woz wrng wi u. if u don feel great abt our culture thn u can get da hell outta here.

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RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:12 AM  Permalink
But did we not see our ancestors do them and we do not hesitate to follow them ?

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RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:18 AM  Permalink
I am...that is precisly the reason why I do not follow culture/tradition blindly...I do not want to pass on bad things to my children..just because i am doing it and because my ancestors were doing it..

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RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 01:15 AM  Permalink
u too are part of the same ancestor

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RE:RE:Our culture is our pride
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:15 AM  Permalink
We need to follow what is appropriate...That may OR may not be our culture/Tradition. Our ansestors were NOT perfect. They may have had made mistakes. Today we see them as crime, in their time, it was the CULTURE (Again Caste system for a Brahmin in the 1900s was the CULTURE, the TRADITION...)



We need to follow GOOD traditions and reject the ones that are inappropiate.

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Since when is left believing in a Heaven?
by animesh kumar on Sep 01, 2007 11:43 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I thought communists are supposed to be atheist by religion (faith) and therefore a concept of heaven is non-existent for them.

The journos should ask these basic question to these idiots. When idiot met idiot, eh?

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RE:Since when is left believing in a Heaven?
by Anuj Kumar Singh on Sep 02, 2007 01:14 AM  Permalink
They are chinees agent. Thy are working in their fevor

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It will remove some hell atleast
by Munich Man on Sep 01, 2007 11:29 PM  Permalink 

It may not open gates of heaven but it will definitely close some gates of hell as millions of homes and industries will get power which is very key for economic development of country. India didnot lose anything when it was strategic USSR partner in the past and now also it will lose anything.People should compare the development of West bengal and kerala ruled by communists as comapre to other states although these 2 states enjoy highest literacy rate.

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Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 10:52 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

How is "VANDE MATARAM" the National Song ?

There is a National Anthem...What am I missing here ?



This concept of "MATA" is derived from the Hindu belief in Godess...Parvati Mata...That is what we do not Believe as Muslims. Hence we reject the Concept of Bharat being our MATA.



Dont confuse issues. India is our HOME COUNTRY, COUNTRY OF BIRTH...



If tomorrow some poet were to come up with a Song that says "India is a blessing to the World from ALLAH", would you sing it...



Stop this crap of MATA and PITA. Follow the rules of the LAW, Pay Taxes and do NOT encourage Bribes. Bharat "MATA" will be more happy.



These are also communist ideas...Remeber "Mother RUSSIA"

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Pandu Havaldar 61-62 on Sep 01, 2007 11:00 PM  Permalink
You should drop your Hindu surname if you have so much problem with anything hindu

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RE:RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:02 PM  Permalink
No...How is Patel a Hindu name...Why are we being so superficial and Shallow...

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Pandu Havaldar 61-62 on Sep 01, 2007 11:07 PM  Permalink
Dude you started it by bringing MATA etc. Thought to let you know Patel is Hindu name. Islam might not permit it... I really don't care personally if you use it. Since you are so much offended by MATA thing thought let you know

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:09 PM  Permalink
I am not offended by MATA...people are free to say it...



What I am offended by is, people being FORCED to say MATA...



Hope you see the difference.

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 01, 2007 11:11 PM  Permalink
I am Batman and rediff banned me frm posting for my Anti Communist and Anti Islam comments so this new Name Transformesr and i have seen a lotta Imran patels posts and hes one of the very few moslems who i must say write nuthn that would seem anti national or anti hindu. I thnk hes quite liberal whch is good.

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:24 PM  Permalink
A person should develop more patience and respect for other by learning ISLAM. Remeber in ISLAM, ANGER is HARAM.



If that is not happening when people learn about Islam, then there is something wrong.

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 01, 2007 11:21 PM  Permalink
U can be a liberal even aftre learning and reading Islam...

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RE:RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:19 PM  Permalink
Thanks for the compliment.

Just one correction.



I am not a LIBERAL. I read and learn ISLAM by myself, as oppose to relying on the MULLAHS.



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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Serious on Sep 01, 2007 10:56 PM  Permalink
imran, you are wrong.
the concept of MATA is not from hindu or any religion. otherwise, how will a word called "MOTHERLAND" exist at all? will you call this word also a hindu-word?
please do not make the fact of "calling your birthplace motherland" a religious issue.

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RE:RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:01 PM  Permalink
That is ONE of the reasons...



I have no problem with people calling it motherland or Father-Land...But people like me who choose NOT to, should have their rights as well.



I believe India is my Birth Country. Not Mother or Father. Why can't people be happy with that.



Why is a person LESS patriotic when he does not believe in this concept of "Mata" ?



Don't we see people everyday, bribing and looting this country and then claming it to be "MATA" ?



This is purely SYMBOLIC !!!

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RE:RE:RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 01, 2007 11:05 PM  Permalink
i agree with Imran. If he loves his country and works for the benefit of India thn callin India Mata or nt should nt be the test to prove patriotism.

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RE:RE:RE:RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:12 PM  Permalink
Thank you.

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Serious on Sep 01, 2007 11:10 PM  Permalink
yes it is symbolic.
like the word "mother tongue", that is used to indicate one's first language. i think there is nothing wrong in it.
i am a hindu, but not a believer of the devi's. i would not like to worship DEVIs or (MATAs). but i feel it is okay to call the country of birth my motherland.


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RE:RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:14 PM  Permalink
Serious,

You should be free to call it Mata...I am all for it...BUT, let us not make it a LAW or judge someone else's patriotism by that.



Thats my point.



Patriotism should come from our actions...Words are like icing on the cake...

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Anuj Kumar Singh on Sep 02, 2007 01:16 AM  Permalink
I support Imran, If you cant say mata to mother land due to religion constraint, not a problem, because you love it.

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 01, 2007 10:59 PM  Permalink
I wouldnt have agreed with Imran as i was a firm beleiver in the concept of bharat mata i wish it could be like that, bt when i see all the filth around, we dumping wastes and toxic chemicals on our land i feel ashamed to call our land Mata. It almost feels like insulting the grateness that bharat mata means. Its so bad.

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 01, 2007 11:04 PM  Permalink
The truth is all muslims in both India and Pakistan are originally Hindus who were forced into islam by the arabd invaders. One look at indian and paki muslims and its so very clear they are just nt arabs who are the real muslims. Indians and paki muslims look distinctively diffrnt frm the arabs. So b4 sayn nethn wrng abt Hindus thnk of the suffering that ur hindu forefathers went thrhg at the hands of the arab moslems who forced their islamic religion un u guys

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RE:RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:11 PM  Permalink
Well,

Every Arab does NOT have to be a Muslim...Just like every Maharashtrian is NOT a Hindu...



Arab is a person from Arabia...Can be a Muslim, Christian, Jew etc...Islam, christianity, Hindusim are beliefs...



Hope that flushes your Brain clean...

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 01, 2007 11:14 PM  Permalink
Bt am sure u ll agree that ur forefathers were Hindus originally who were converted by the moghuls

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RE:RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:17 PM  Permalink
There is a possibility that my forefathers were Hindu/Christian/Athiest/Bhuddist/Jews/etc...There is a possibility that they were converted by force...



How does it change the FACT that I am a Muslim today.



What is important is that I am NOT FORCING anyone...

Allah knows, I will never betray my country...or pay bribes or try to evade taxes.

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 01, 2007 11:19 PM  Permalink
I ll agree with you and lets close it here. This forum is about the commies sellling India to china and hw to get rid of the commies and nt a Hindu vs Muslim forum.

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Pandu Havaldar 61-62 on Sep 01, 2007 11:21 PM  Permalink
Bravo,



May Allah bless you and our country....



Lets move on to do something constructive for Our country

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RE:RE:RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:21 PM  Permalink
As far as COMMIES are concerned...We need to minimize their effect by voting them out of power...and here my Community has let itself down by supporting Communist.



Commies are blood sucking parasites...It is failed ideology, failed policies and miserable Financial policy.

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RE:RE:RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:29 PM  Permalink
You have no idea what situations I find myself in...I am in the US and have many Muslim and non Muslim friends. Many Muslim friends are from Pakistan...



I have other Muslim friends from India as well...It is great to see Muslim Indians support India against Pakistani Muslims.



The good thing is that all are educated. So the debates are very informative and well behaved.



I must tell you...There are people in Pakistan that are SICK for their country...Some were even hoping that the US will invade PAkistan...



It is not all Black and White.

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RE:RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:25 PM  Permalink
Lets HOPE that we WIN tomorrow...Come ON INDIA...

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Sunil Agrawal on Sep 01, 2007 11:45 PM  Permalink
Because Bharat mata, that's our culture, and tradition. A person can change any faith or religion but can not change his/her culture, tradition and ancestors.

"Bharat mata", that is the thing which makes India unique.

Anything coming from the West we consider secular but anything coming from Indian culture we consider as communal. These is just slavery.


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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 01, 2007 11:52 PM  Permalink
Sunil,

Look like you sleep with your eyes OPEN.

What Culture and Tradition are you talking about.



I came to India last year...Look at our tradition and culture in today's youth...I was ashamed...Look at the dress clothes of these girls today...In may days there was one or two girls wearing jeans in college...Not they are wearing shorts...



And How are you saying that person cannot change his Culture, traditions...



Look at our films...they more pathetic than western films...Check out the ITEM/MASALA songs...Do you still believe that culture/traditions are not Changing...



Some changes are for Good (Cast system, Sati)...some are bad...

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Sunil Agrawal on Sep 02, 2007 12:06 AM  Permalink
Imran,
Problem is with you is that you are too arrogant.
You are mixing fashion, social-evil, and individual's action with culture.
If a person wants to wear anything, what's wrong in that.

Fashion changes everyday. But you can't change your ancestors and and values.

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 12:18 AM  Permalink
Please Define Values ?



Son drinking/smoking with his Father, is that your values ?

Daughter wearing skimpy outfits in front of parents, is that your values ?

Children putting their parents in "Vruddha-Ashram", is that your values ?

Entire family sitting and watching MASALA numbers, is that your values ?

Pre-marital sex, is that your values ?

Higher divorce rates, is that your values ?

Higher rate of ABORTION, is that your values ?

Higher rate of RAPE, is that your values ?

Teen pregnancies, is that your values ?



My dear,

I visit India once every 2 years and you will cannot imagine the difference.



I am not very pleased to see it. It hurts to see my country head towards darkness.

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RE:RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Dande Waala on Sep 02, 2007 12:44 AM  Permalink
dishum dishum bam bam dishum dishum


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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by imran patel on Sep 02, 2007 01:10 AM  Permalink
No Sunil,

The reason I Pray 5 times, or bow in front of the Kabah are part of my religion NOT a tradition.



The caste system was a tradition that we have reduced.



Even in Islam there are many traditions that we need to reject. Example, the Burkha is not the dress code of the Muslim Woman. It was the traditional dress of Arab Woman. Islam says that woman should cover her body and dress modestly. Burkha may be a solution but it is NOT THE ONLY solution. Shalwar Khammez with Dupatta is perfectly fine.

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Sunil Agrawal on Sep 02, 2007 12:29 AM  Permalink
You are going on different track my dear. Let me explain you differently.

Why a Muslim pray 5 time not, why not 4 or 6 time?
Why a Muslim name should be Imran why not Sunil Agrawal?
Why a Muslim bend for namaj in perticular direction.

This is all I am talking about. That's a culture and tradition you get from your ancestors and make you unique. Some are faith based, some are country based, some are region based.

But, if somebody is rigid and determine not to understand other's idea then nobody can make him understand.

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RE:Message to ''INDIAN''...
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 12:53 AM  Permalink
Please Define Values ?

Cutting off limbs and hands and legs for crimes like theft in sharia laws, is that your values ?
Not letting woman work and forcing her nt to have even her face exposed forevevr, is that your values ?
destroying bamiyan budhas in afghanistan, is that your values ?
killing innocnet people in the name of jihad, is that your values ?
Givin talaq to women by just mere words without any rights for women, is that your values ?
Teaching children only abt islam and nuthn else in madarassas, is that your values ?
Female circumsision, is that your values ?
Women requiring 4 witnesses to prove she has been raped whch is impossible, is that your values ?

B4 u say thnk and look into urslef wot fault lies in u


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by Niharika Sharma on Sep 02, 2007 03:09 AM  Permalink
ok

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Karat yechury bardhan commie traitors exposed
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 01, 2007 10:39 PM  Permalink 

We will be in a position to better judge the N deal if we also read What Paki experts feel on the deal

http://www.dawn.com/2007/08/29/op.htm

The chinese also find it difficult to digest the deal but will swallow their opposition to it

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=91507

Besides, all Indians must know how the Indian deal compares with the Chinese deal

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/212219.html

Reading all the articles in tandem an ordinary unbiased Indian can arrive at the same conclusion what all the experts in India have been saying that the deal is good for the country.

The opposition to it is only political.

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Karat Yechury Bardhan ccommie traitors chinese agents exposed
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 01, 2007 10:38 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Time and again the left has shown its utter contempt for anything remotely hindu. Its amusing to see them now crying hoarse about national security.Don't they remember the history? They opposed Quit India movement,tried to overthrow the bengal government,supported china in '62,opposed nuclear tests,opposed opening up of economy,supported Pak,iraq,iran and other rogue nations whenever they have alleged persecution of muslims in india,opposed 2nd nuclear test,opposed kargil war(even taking out an anti-war rally against the Indian govt as if it was India who was responsible for war!!!) and now they are opposing the nuclear deal. Face it people.Its not about the nuclear deal.Read their committee's resolution.They are opposed to "growing proximity between Indian and american govt".There's nothing wrong with the deal.Its just that they don't want it to be with US cos US is hated by muslims and these blood sucking red parasites will sell the country to get Muslim votes. Blinded by ideology they are out to destroy the country.National interest from their mouths?haha..Marx himself believed that nation is concept created to exploit the masses and place power in a few select.Wake up people the left is becoming stronger.Crush it before it becomes too strong.MM Joshi was doing a great service to nation by throwing reds out of educational institutes.These parasites breed there and produce more of their kind.If I had my way I would bomb JNU and AMU to dust.Thats where most of them come frm.

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RE:Karat Yechury Bardhan ccommie traitors chinese agents exposed
by Indian JaiHind on Sep 02, 2007 12:46 AM  Permalink
Good man. Keep it up. I appreciate you. Communists are there to Sell india to China or get India attacked by China or Pakstan. CPI M are biggest traitors. So ppl of Kerala and West Bengal, Please dont vote for them anymore. JAI HIND

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Commies traitors exposed
by Transformers Transformers on Sep 01, 2007 10:35 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Only 2 nations in the whole world are opposing this Indo US nuclear deal, China and Pakistan.... China has the Most Favored NAtion status with the US and opposes the same status for India. China has got a similar nuclear deal with the US bt opposes the deal with India... Jyoiti Basu of CPM protested against Indian defence againt chinese invasion of india in 1962 and was jailed by Nehru for anti India activities. Basu went on to become the CM of bengal. Commies never condemn Chinese claim of arunachal Pradesh whn the people themselves want top be part of India.. CPM opposes Indian nuclear progress bt has no problems with Chinas nuclear arming of pakistan whch are targeted towards India and supports iranian nuclear program. The communists oppose ndustrialiazation in India and went on killing 100's of poor farmers in Singur and Nandigram tryin to grab farmers fertile land for setting up industries. Commies are ruling bengal for more than 30 years now and have reduced bengal from being the finest to being the poorest.. Only big industry in commie ruled states bangal and kerala are trade unions and their number one product is strikes and bandh. Commies vociferously opposed introduction of computers by rajiv gandhi, commies cald computers as evil and against national interest. Commies neva condemned chinese invasion of India in 1962. Commies do not recognize aksai chin in kashmir as part of india. And yes the commies got a new name now "Headless Chickens and Spineless Morons".

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RE:Commies traitors exposed
by Indian JaiHind on Sep 02, 2007 12:49 AM  Permalink
Good man. Keep it up. I appreciate you. Communists are there to Sell india to China or get India attacked by China or Pakstan. CPI M are biggest traitors. So ppl of Kerala and West Bengal, Please dont vote for them anymore. JAI HIND


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