we all give something or the other to our cousins and friends.thats life but carrying it this far is something gone horribly wrong.why he is an indian in a white background? all indian doctors and professional should take on one day together and see where these countries will go.
The latest news (as per Australian media sites) confirms that Haneef is being made a scapegoat. He is just a political prisoner of the Aussie govt in an election year. Aussie media reports a surge in popularity for the ruling coalition on account of 'terrorism'. The govt should drop charges and send Haneef back to India. But the Australian courts appear to be just and his lawyers have also done a thorough job. The Indian govt and the media should also take up the plight of Indians languishing in Saudi jails, as also the plight of political prisoners like Arun Ferreira and Binay Sen who are languishing in prisons right here. India should set its own house in order before pointing fingers at other countries. We have an appalling record in human rights violations. Credit to the media for highlighting such issues - that is the only hope of attaining justice, albeit belatedly.
Whats the big deal in one of indian arrested on suspesion and being tried. why this big publicity for him. there are cases where people are arrested in many cases like... pak arresting indian fisher men ... saudi police arresting indian on suspetion on trading contraband. There are thousands of indians in australia why aussis are not arresting or deporting them why only haneef think? some of our brothers think about harming austrailian tourist in india/other places. What have they got to do with hanefs arrest think?
RE:Whats the big deal
by tan on Jul 20, 2007 03:52 PM Permalink
Shree , What are u trying to prove. Are you bringing hindu and muslim dimension to this incidence. What is wise & twice according to shree is think on religious grounds. If we muslims were not patriotic to india we wouldnt have brought india to world stage Muslims have spearheaded india on global market SRK AMIR SALMAN Movies like SHOLAY and MUGAL E AZAM made by indian and muslim TAJ MAHAL built by muslims. MUSLIMS GENERATE lot of foreign exchange and have contributed heavely to indian economy. .
What else do you want more from muslims of india.
We are indians first and their book the QURAN tells them that be a good citizen of the land from where you are and obey its laws. ok
Dear Readers The world might become even more chaotic in the years to come due to power politics. It is important that we, the educated, need to stay objective on common issues and stop abusing religion
Regards
Some of the comments posted are really extreme and very difficult to digest.
RE:Chaotic
by Miharika on Jul 20, 2007 03:09 PM Permalink
I agree. Some people are so blinded by their hatred and prejudice for minorities that they spew venom, with reckless disregard for the facts. I am shocked at the number of such people on rediff and hope this does not reflect the general opinion of most "educated" Indians. Interestingly you will not find such vituperative venom on Yahoo, although it is certainly present in Google groups. I have not done a study on other sites but it would be interesting to observe the general trend.
RE:Maro Sale Australian Prime Minster Ka Takla Fod Dalo
by Kemal on Jul 20, 2007 02:11 PM Permalink
What language is this? Seems like you are typing some arabic verses from the book? Please translate it into english for everybody to understand. Thanks.
RE:Maro Sale Australian Prime Minster Ka Takla Fod Dalo
by baisani kishore on Jul 22, 2007 03:18 PM Permalink
U bloody ssss ..if u r not brave enough to put ur name clearly..dont talk about south indians or muslims..hw dare u talk abt south indians a mentally retarded.idiot..first behave well..thn u can give lectures to others
RE:Can not trust
by Saths on Jul 20, 2007 01:59 PM Permalink
Dude Akram,
Look at the history if Islam. This country India has millions and millions of Hindu's skull on which your islamic rulers ruled India. So don't keep bringing up Gujju riots. First of all does Islam belong to India or is it's India's inability to throw you guys out of the country. I am not against Islam but it looks like Islam always focusses on what is being done against their religion than realizing what they are doing to other. Everything done to them is injustice whereas everything they do to other is JIHAD. So shut up Moron.
RE:Can not trust
by Saths on Jul 20, 2007 02:28 PM Permalink
Akram, Atleast Aryans did not kill millions and millions of people and do a mass conversion, take women as slaves and concubines. The gujju incident that you try to bring up shows your islamic attitude of not forgiving. But we Hindu's have to forget everything that ISLAM does to us like the Mumbai Blast. I am sure you will turn a radical one day just by feeding of the gujju incident.
RE:Can not trust
by jayaroopa j on Jul 20, 2007 02:04 PM Permalink
Are there no instances of people from other communities cheating their cousins/ friends/ family etc. Does that mean all communities should be distrusted?
Anyway, this is not about Sabeel cheating his cousin. There are allegations that he misused the SIM and thats about it.
A facility to post message should encourage responsible and well thought out messages-not random posts spreading hatred. This is misuse!!!
RE:Can not trust
by Jitin Malik on Jul 20, 2007 02:34 PM Permalink
I will go with Santosh Kumar. To divide a country on the basis of religion is not sensible. Look at Uk where all the religion exists in one word UK and they are proud to be British except some rare cases.
Firstly be Indian and then follow your religion of faith and live your life.
RE:Can not trust
by Akram on Jul 20, 2007 02:45 PM Permalink
the organizations like RSS,LET,VHP,HIZBUL MUJAHIDEEN, BAJRANG DAL, HUJI will see it never happens like that for their own survival. and there will be a bunch of fools rolling behind them causing innumerable disturbance to all people irrespective of religion
In America's 'War on Terror', terms like 'truth', 'integrity', 'innocent' and 'human rights' etc. are strict taboo and have no meaning anymore. Rounding up people on mere suspicion and detaining them indefinitely without charge is perfectly acceptable. Who cares about the UN or the Geneva Conventions ? They are to be used only when it is in the West's interest.
Dr. Haneef is an 'accused' and remember that 'an accused is innocent until proven guilty'. If Dr. Haneef is indeed guilty, he should be tried and punished according to law. But detaining him only on the charge that he lent his SIM card to his cousin who was ultimately linked to the terrorist attack is ridiculous. It is like saying 'Mr. XYZ went to the grocer to buy vegetables and paid him a Rs. 100 note. The grocer, in turn, was linked to a terrorist attack. Since your Rs. 100 note was also used as part of financing this attack, you are also proclaimed guilty'. In fact, an Australian cabinet minister has only recently confirmed that one of the main reasons of going to war in Iraq was oil. So all those nice stories that were fed to us about Saddam Hussein's WMD's were only a smokescreen for other grandoise plans. I have lost all trust in the Bush/Blair system of 'gangland justice'. All this is so eeringly reminiscent of the dark times of the Nazi regime in Germany.
The so called 'War on Terror' has only increased terrorism worldwide rather than control it. Today's so called terrorists are all the by products of
RE:Another cover up
by Reji A on Jul 20, 2007 01:42 PM Permalink
Australians are descendants of prisoners!! They still retain the traits and characteristics., Andrews needs his balls squeezed. LOL
RE:Another cover up
by Neer on Jul 20, 2007 02:15 PM Permalink
Very nicely said. Looks like Australian Police are really inefficient in handling real terrorism . People there has to know all the details of their ... brother ..sisters ....cousins ..uncle... niece ..nephew ..brother in law .. shop keepers .. bankers ..colleagues.....everybody around them before one talks to them chat with them or help them or do any business with them ...otherwise if anything wrong happen one will be held responsible for it .
How stupid these Australian authority can be ... DO they really think punishing somebody who knowingly or unknowingly gave a terrorist his sim card will help in preventing terrorism ?
RE:haneef SIM Card
by Santosh Kumar on Jul 20, 2007 02:28 PM Permalink
Abe'O so called 'patriotic India' kis liye India ka naam kharaab kar raha hai apne aap ko Indian patriotic kah kar.
RE:haneef SIM Card
by Jitin Malik on Jul 20, 2007 02:40 PM Permalink
U R Right. But normally what happens in Uk, we are only provided with mobiles with min 12 month contract to get it cheaper. Now unfortunately this guy got placed in Australia 6 months back so presumabely to avoid revoking the contract and paying huge in lump sum he might have given it to somone else. They understand it usually happens, but making it foundation of a case is just stupidity. They were just barking at a rong tree nothing else.
What Australian Police Exactly trying to prove !!!
by Neer on Jul 20, 2007 01:24 PM Permalink | Hide replies
The way the Australian Police handling the case of Haneef is ridiculous and is not at all democratic. They dont have a single valid evidence or charge against Haneef and as reports are coming into public it seems that charges against Haneef made by the Australian police might be incorrect. It looks like they are making Haneef a scapegoat for no reason. It only makes us wonder if there is any other intention behind it or not,coz Australia has this reputation of being RACIST many times in the past. It also proves that the police in UK or Australia are inefficient in handling terror coz they cant catch the real culprits but only trying to save their face by torturing someone who is hardly involved with it .
RE:What Australian Police Exactly trying to prove !!!
by kshitij tumbde on Jul 20, 2007 01:39 PM Permalink
Perfect. Aussie prime minister is a BIG FOOL. He jumped the gun by announcing his hardline terrorist arrest in Australia. In fact they have arrested an innocent man. They are going extreme end to prove Haneef is a terrorist and look their prime minister right. Everyone knows John Howard is a big idiot and so as not to look like one he is keeping Haneef in solitary confiment.
He is the cousin of Sabeel Ahmed. Doctor or no doctor, his actions right after the terrorist incident are suspicious. If he is not guilty, why did he rush out of the country. It does not smoke without fire. This group was involved in ISLAMIC ACTIVISM in Bangalore.
There are many cases where people are let go on technical grounds. That does not mean they are not guilty. It is merely that they are lucky and escaped due to the fair laws of the democratic countries. If this had happened in China or Saudi Arabia, they would have executed him by now.
RE:Dr Haneef
by Neer on Jul 20, 2007 01:56 PM Permalink
Religion is created by human beings and every religion has its fault. One should not blame a religion for people misinterpreting it and misleading others . Same way every religion teaches something good . We should accept the good part out of it . If we look at history we see that a number of times some people intentionally used religion as a shield to mislead others . For example some terrorists use Islam to justify it . RSS use Hinduism to justify their misdeeds. Its nothing but just exploiting the religious sentiments for fulfilling other other intentions which can be personal greed ...economic and political.
RE:RE:Dr Haneef
by syed hamid on Jul 20, 2007 04:41 PM Permalink
a muslim is lives and dies as a muslim, we have efficient rules laid down for talaq, inheritence, just a book is not judged by its cover, islam cannot be judged by idiots who write books or give lectures out of context, i think stone to death is a good law, and i would suggest indian govt to implement this law, if one or 2 gets this punishment, no one will take courage to rape your mother/sister/wife just implement and see the decrease in crime
RE:Dr Haneef
by Neer on Jul 20, 2007 01:41 PM Permalink
By saying this u only prove how unfair and bias u r with ur judgement. There could have been many reason why he wanted to rush out of the country . One VALID and SIMPLE reason which is visible to any SIMPLE and Common people is that his child was born. Is that not a gud enough reason ? Does everybody knows what their cousins are upto ? And does it mean that u shud know every details of ur relatives before trying to help them in any way ?
And what is the harm in being involved with ISLAMIC ACTIVIST ? there are many HINDU ACTIVIST in India , who most of the time do all irrational things . for example : RSS . why r u blaming Islam ? Even if for the sake of argument if u say that Islam gave birth of terrorism then we can say that Hinduism gave birth to caste system ...caste based society ...discrimination ...caste based politics .. and this has affected the life of Indians much more than terrorism ! This has caused much harm than what terrorism has caused . Let other flaws of Hinduism or activities are taken as granted and not consider yet!!
RE:Dr Haneef
by Sharad on Jul 20, 2007 02:13 PM Permalink
Islamic activism to promote VIOLENT JIHAD is different from Islamic activism to promote equality for muslim women against their male domination, or Islamic activism to speak against weird concepts like INFIDELS, or Islamic activism to speak against male dominated talaq system, or inheritence laws. This group was rejected by their own Mosque leaders in Bangalore when they tried to rope them into their extreme views.
He bought a one way ticket India. He did not apply for leave and give it to the hospital authorities but he just informed them by an email. A child is not born overnight. These are important events in one's family and they are usually planned well in advance.
BTW, I reject the class system in Hinduism. Will you reject INFIDELS, TALAQ, FATWAS, VIOLENT JIHAD, UNFAIR INHERITENCE LAWS, STONE BY DEATH, BEHEADING ????????
