you guys should understand the sacrifice he made. He made many Americans realize that Indians are very good in technology. That they can match the very best in the world. It is many years of sacrifices from people like him that brought IT to India. Murthy from Infosys is a living example. But he couldn't have done it without thousands of Indians proving every day that the world could count on them, their expertise and their dedication. That's the sacrifice. Do you need more.. so stop being mean to a man who lost his life. And when you live in a place, you develop roots and get attached to that place. I can totally see why he'd want to be cremated in the US.
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by Sivakumar Subramanian on Apr 19, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
Nalini Nair..India doesnt give opportunities for a equal education. Poor goes to corporation schools while the rich goes to convents. No need to blame Mr Loganathan. You are mouthing words out of your inabilty to go to US.
Its really very very sad that so many innocent lives have been lost just becoz of the 'Gun Culture' being so prevalent and thriving in the US. As an elder brother i am so worried about my lil brothers plans to go to the US to pursue his studies. Clearly America has failed miserably to curb this menace. Guns can be bought easily over the counter like a box of chocolates without any licence or permission at your local shop even by youngsters. Lets all get together and voice our dismay and disapproval towards this menace. We cannot have innocent lives being sacrificed for this.
As Indians we are saddened by the unnecessary death of Mr.Loganathan.
Why are we Indians not similarly appalled by the deaths in Iraq due to the invasion by the united states.
Between 50 and a 100 people die everyday. Don't they all have families? Are they too not human beings with similar feelings as us?
Wherever the united states has put their foot in, they have created misery and chaos. I repeat wherever. The numbers killed are beyond belief. The land is ravaged. The people killed or tortured. And in the aftermath, the unexploded mines and bombs are a cruel reminder by the us military that they should not be forgotten.
Whenever an american in the united states is killed by a foreigner, the papers are drowned with sob stories of the tragedy befalling a true and loyal citizen of the usa.
Once again, may the unneccessary deaths of an Indian teacher & student lead to better gun control and a reminder to the usa of the fact that violence begets violence.
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by Maryjorse Gandmar on Apr 19, 2007 10:58 PM Permalink
Shyam let us do step by step like my telugu dance teacher has taught me steppulu steppulu. First we will be sad for NRI Loganathan, then next step is Iraqi Mirchi Seth, then tomorrow Chinabhai Chinkyminky, then Jappan, then afterwards Nepal Bhutan Mongolioa Antartica Arctic Africa so many nation ration shop also I must go today don't know how much we will be able to cover but step by step we will cover it all up.
For those who are part of the Prof.Logonathan's my deepest sympathy. Coimbatore being my ancestoral and love towards all the surrounding neighbors those who have struggled on the fields to achieve their goals, losing Prof.Loganathan is one of the most brutal act.
Parents who have toiled their lands in the hot sun to help their kids vision true these incident are the deepest wounds which every Comibatorean must carry.
Why the craze of US for a few dollars more can settle with parents and they who spent time on you are there for your life.
President of USA should control and regulate Guns/weapons... at the earliest. And also should regulate all companies producing such weapons and selling it.
To have guns and free access to weapons is not the way to save personal life, Mr. Bush or US president should understand and realise it.
Otherwise there will be many more such horrific incidents americans will see in their future.
what is so great about loganathan?? who asked him to go to US for teaching? why cant he teach in a indian university? also he wanted to be buried in the US cos he has chosen it as his motherland. he doesnt want to be buried in indian soil (so called thamizh mann). he is not a gandhi. he didnt sacrifice his life for saving the other students like the israeli professor. why is tamilnadu govt paying the ticket money for NINE people in LUFTHANSA??? its after all our tax money. the brothers are quite settled , they are not poor, they can fund their own tickets. the government can use the money (approx 9 lacs) for helping the poor people. INDIANS WILL NEVER LEARN.
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by viraj parab on Apr 19, 2007 11:41 AM Permalink
i think u havent read properly whats written ... "She also informed us of the practical difficulties involved in bringing the body to India."
Also gandhi wasnt a good man. He had chance of saving Bhagat Singh but he did not do it, as he didnt want a competitor. As Bhagat Singh's popularity was growing in those days.
Also Rahul Gandhi has also opened some other issues which tell us a lot of things ... So plz stop prasing Nehrus and Gandhis.
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by on Apr 19, 2007 11:45 AM Permalink
It s not a question of Nehrus and Gandhis. You have highlighted an interesting point which I missed out - thanks for the same. While there may have been issues in bringing the body to India, bottom line was the prof's wish to be buried in the US. Also, a couple of years back, we had executives from a software company detained in Indonesia and the Indian govt. intervened for their release - the govt. has, needless to say, been supportive. if the family could get their passports and US visas in a day, I am sure the govt. could have intervened for the body to be brought into India - would you not agree
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by Alok Singh on Apr 19, 2007 12:52 PM Permalink
Good point guys. While it's an unfortunate incident but why should we give it special attention.All other victims should be same for us.It's high time we stop giving too much importance to NRI's. This will do injustice to the people who choose to settle here in spite of getting similar opportunities overseas. Why should the Govt pay for their trip. Can't it be spent on poor people in our own country.
There is an Indian sailor languishing in Pourtguese jails. What our Govt. is doing to get him released?
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by rajamanoharan muthuselvam on Apr 19, 2007 12:57 PM Permalink
Where ever the Indian go, they proved their talent. As an Indian we should not negelect the NRI's or a Business man.See...The Indian professor got awards in US for his teaching, the business man (Arun) is a very good young Entreprenur giving jobs to thousands and make wealthy to India. So our people in india should understand every thing before blaming others and Government. It is not a good comparison.
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by Chamundi on Apr 19, 2007 01:49 PM Permalink
Let me give you another comparison - there were many Indians who died at the WTC on 9/11 - incl. many employees of Indian It companies? How many of their families were provided such privileges as the prof's family - is that comparison enough? Have we realized what humanitarianism is all about in 2007 as opposed to 2001?
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by viji on Apr 19, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
An interesting comparison then would be the fellowmen who died in the Kargil war. The Govt. went on a fund raising campaign - why could they not spend on these valoured men who lost their lives defending the country. Ask one widow of the family how they are and you will know what comparisons and differentiations are all about
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by ram ram on Apr 19, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
You guys couldnt get any more small in your thinking.... especially at a time like this. Its best to avoid comparisons.
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by Kaustav Kakati on Apr 20, 2007 05:42 PM Permalink
all those so called 'patriotic' ppl who have written here against the prof, are a bunch of sour losers who never had the talent to make it big in the world, and so are envious of those who have!
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by Uniq Asian on Apr 19, 2007 01:06 PM Permalink
You have to take into account what's political correctness. Imagine there are no indians in US: US wouldn't even care to make ties with india, as there is nobody to prove in their own land who indians are. Remember a few years back most americans didn't even know where india lies in the world map, and now most people just envy the word 'indian'. You might argue that india can do it all on their own, but for economics 101: US is the biggest customer anyone can ask for as of today - if india doesn't do it in the service industry, china/russia/brazil will do it just like they did in the manufacturing. The professor is a symbol of our proud display of intelligence in their own land. In a layman's sense, your argument sounds like "who asked my neighborhood grocer to sell groceries to others - he and his family can cook and eat them all by themselves". Of course he can take groceries and money from his own store, but he has to sell more than he spends for himself to meet his other needs and to save for his future. Why can't you understand this simple fact of market economy.
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by viji on Apr 19, 2007 01:23 PM Permalink
I think your Id speaks for yourself - you are truly unique. Dont forget, if it was not for the capitalist buyers like Us, India would not even figure on the world map. Bult of China's exports are to the US and so is India' software and service exports. I would appreciate the US Govt. for having waived all their std norms and helping the family get a US visa in a day - especially when they rejected the Gujarat polician (Narendra Modi) of a life time entry into the US. No one is trying to deman Indians, I think you are missing the point. Put yourself in the Prof's shoes or Minal's, would your family have got to visit the US?
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by on Apr 19, 2007 11:40 AM Permalink
While I do agree that we have lost an educationist and brain power, I think the loss is for the US and not for India. While knowledge is meant to be distributed, the same could have been done in India as well. And further, I fail to understand why the family could not have flown Air India or more so a private jet funded by any of the politicians - this should have been the party's money as opposed to the Indian tax payer's monies. Further, we have had so many instances of Indians dying out of unnatural causes outside of India, but this is the first time the govt has come forward - is this a caste distinction? My deepest sympathies for the bereaved family, but I guess the Romanian professor (not Israeli)was a true hero - he & his fmaily deserves the truest humanitarian respect and sympathies
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by on Apr 19, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
Well I am above the taxable limits and do pay my taxes - If you have not paid or evaded, please let everyone know your tax consultants details. I will also be more positive on such instances, like you
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by Naveen C on Apr 19, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
Spare of thought for a guy who tried some thing out in US.. As far as his family being sponsored by govt with Tax payers money.. Just a straight question you!!! HAVE YOU PAID YOUR TAX??
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by ganesh v on Apr 19, 2007 11:40 AM Permalink
you've missed out our passport office and us consulate. they've provided passport and visas within a day. will this happen for everyone? that too the tatkal fees were weived.
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by chakrapani gopal on Apr 19, 2007 11:37 AM Permalink
True there is no use of telling this now after he is dead what happened to his parents who influenced him.
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by Satyanarayana Shivanathuni on Apr 19, 2007 02:14 PM Permalink
May his soul rest in peace. My deepest condolences to him. I agree with you, lot of Indians(Ok Tamilians) are in GULF jails. They can't pay flight fare so they are sufferring there, who cheated by agents. Can send them and make them free... Why need to fund them. As usual in India, political stunt....
Indeed India has lost another great teacher owing to the brutality of an insane and inhuman being. It is high time the govt of USA took stringent measures regarding the policy of issuing licences. All the assasinated, nay murdered are the future beacons of the modern world. Had they lived they would have contributed to the growth of the modern world. Indeed it is an irreparable loss to the Indian intellegentia. May the soul the murdered Indians rest in peace. Dr.Rao, an NRI from Oman.
All are condemning the incident at US. Let us introspect.What is happening in our own country? There is total materialism. No moral education thanks to so called secularism.Schools have become the source of minting money next to hospitals.No doubt we are also producing disgruntled youth. Due to past good deeds this generation may escape. But with so much unscruplous people the future here is aloc going to be no better than US or IRAQ