This is very good deceision .... First gov will make non peak hours into peak hours then tax that too.. How smart Just like lallu , Just change the definition and charge more Change lousy trains to Superfast and charge more Change general quota tickets to Tatkal quota abd charge more
the very same thing will happen and then they will come back saying that how smart is the gov which has turned the sixk unit into profit making and then we will all praise this gov. just like we are doing to lallu
Indians are fools nothing else (including me as I am also an Indian)
The government is not fit for taking any quick decisions on expanding airport services across the country. But its very fast in making such decisions like hiking price for peak hours and so on. either way its the common man who is suffered. but if an MP or PM takes a flight all other flights are delayed for their prompt departure. I hope goverment works sincerely for betterment of common man's travelling plights.
yes i will pay. but what about when flight gets delayed. i mean i take a flight in the peak hours and that get delayed and fly after those peak hours . this is totally stupid, nonesense decission.
They know only too well-never mind the oodles of verbal hullabaloo-that with the India-shining factor around, people will not mind paying dear for their air-travel whistles, at the end of the day. Like it happens with any increase in rates affecting anything in our daily life there will be shrill protests in the beginning that would peter out into compliance following a pattern of inevitability !! M.R.Srinivasan, Chennai-600 041.
why we pay more to indian govts for the name of congetion and all other worst services at airport. All these problems are due to non working of govt. and their machinery. They are taking already more for improving infrastructure and others but they are not doing anything.
All these are for harrasing common people and de motivate in using the airport services.
Pay for what? The government's apathy is shown in that regardless of peak or non-peak hours, the conditions, infrastructure, filthiness, incompetence, police misbehaviour, congestion, unprofessional employees, all combine to make a indian airport an extremely forbidding experience. On one hand they say we are growing at 8%,well and good, but what the hell are we doing about the airports ? They are the most distressing airports when compared to any other reasonable nation, completely apathetic and hopeless. And now we have to "pay" more to use these dirty, ragged, old, outdated, crumbling, dilapidated, crowded, unfriendly, authoritarian, places. I'm all for it. aren't you ?
RE:Ready to pay
by smita joshi on Mar 07, 2007 02:42 PM Permalink
Compare the facilities at any other country with the population of 1Bn & democracy which allows citizens to speak their mind.....and u'll c that India is doing terrific !
There r too many cribbers in the country already, don't add more to 'em. Either enjoy what u have or if u aren't happy, contribute to make things better.
Hey seems like u don't know a secret....will tell u.....airports or rly station or bus stands don't dirty, crumble, crowd themselves.. we do that to these places. U wanting a better upkeepment of places & better management of services is fine but not wanting to pay for it is.....well....common !
RE:RE:Ready to pay
by Suryakant Bhatavadekar on Mar 07, 2007 02:50 PM Permalink
Dear Smita Joshi, Please read my post once again. On one hand where I have protested against the airports, I have also praised the effort of the Delhi metro and the people using it. People "are" paying more, no doubt, but look at what they have got now. If we don't 'crib' and demand more from our government, what's the point of being in a democracy? I don't know where you get the idea that I do not contribute to the society. It is not that I am not ready to pay for better service madam, I am, but its hard for the common man to keep paying more for the "same" rotten service again and again.
RE:Ready to pay
by Manas Bhardwaj on Mar 07, 2007 02:13 PM Permalink
Yes thats apathy, but not only government part but also on ours. We always blame the other one and the ball keeps passing on and on... You are comparing to any other reasonable nation, but do you know the people of other countirs pays tax ranging from 30-50% on an average, and we try to minimize to every penny we can...
RE:RE:Ready to pay
by Surya on Mar 07, 2007 02:20 PM Permalink
You are right. They do pay more taxes. But they also do another thing. They track all the money much better than we do. We do not know where our tax money is really disappearing. Do you think it unreasonable for us to demand that such a fast growing country list India should have such airports where people come from outside and the first thing they see is a policeman scratching between his legs ? Give people a clean place and they will take care of it. Look at Delhi Metro as an example. This first day people almost wrecked it. But now look at it how well behaved and scruplous everyone is. I also hope, like you, that we are ready to take care of the good public infrastructure once it is provided to us.
RE:RE:Ready to pay
by Jairaj on Mar 07, 2007 02:30 PM Permalink
In other countries only people in the High Income bracket pay these high taxes also they have some thing called social security which is unheard of in India moreover when we buy some thing people only pay a 5 or 10 % GST flat and people are not taxed multiple times....
RE:RE:RE:Ready to pay
by Suryakant Bhatavadekar on Mar 07, 2007 02:37 PM Permalink
However, coming back to airports, not only has this been a problem of lack of infrastructure, but also lack of planning. Some people have already pointed out that the definition of peak and non-peak hours is blurry, but that instead of the ariline being forced to shift to the "non-peak" hours, the people are being made to pay more. This smells like politicians and bureaucrats who took the money to grant permits to airlines to fly at peak hours, and then leave the hapless traveller to pay more to travel during this time as well.
RE:Ready to pay
by Surya on Mar 07, 2007 02:13 PM Permalink
Actually, I think the reasons I gave above should satisfy people that it is better to pay more and get the hell out of these places as soon as possible, peak hour or non-peak hour.... :)
Finally the Air Passengers are taken for a ride. We are Guiney Pigs - right?. The Goverment didn't realise this before permitting so many airlines. Also allocating them slots within the peak hours.
Let us take a scenario of non peak hours. I travelled by Parmount from Bangalore to Chennai at 10.25 PM. This is supposed to be a non-peak hour according to govt. I stood in the security check in queue for more than 40 minutes to travel for 40 minutes. Amazing isn't it. What is the question of Peak and non-peak hours.
Does government have a regulatory mechanism to monitor what each airlines are doing.
Recently some of airlines are charging congestion charges. Ethically speaking they should collect it from the passenger only if the plane is struck up in the taxi way.
I recently travelled to Chennai to Rajmundry by Air Deccan. They charged me a congession fee for Rajamundry airport at 3.00 PM in the evening and that too this was the only flight in the whole airport.
Let the Government first regulate the airlines and define set of standard guidelines that everyone should follow.
Also improve the infrastructure of the airports. Letus take that airlines and passengers are willing to pay the peak time fee. Will the goverment/AAI authority will allow them irrespective of what they can handle.
It is capacity Vs. management and not peak hour/ non peak hour.
First can we expect some guidelines for the airlines which leaves passengers in lurch?
Then let the government think of peak and non-peak hours.
these politicians and policy makers doesnt know anything about what common people go through..!! first of all, if one has to travel at certain time then s/he has to.. either at normal fare or at higher fare secondly, flight companies will operate more flights during non-peak hours and passengers have to travel at that time as passengers can not change flight time for airline and thus again at non-peak hour congestion will begin.. thirdly, major foreign airlines come in and go out during night time so it is not good idea to fix domestic travel also around that time.. as again it will increase congestion.. fourth, give emphasize on building new infra-structure as current structure can not sustain in future (even now also it is pathetic..) Fifth and most important.. Common people will face fare hike which is not good as for business people hike of 1000-2000 Rs is nothing for a ticket.. Our politicians try to put blame on airlines and common people, easily getting away from their own mistakes (before giving permission to so many airlines they should have first built proper infra-structure).. ALAS WE will SUFFER...Guys....at the hand of our great leaders and govt.. Why not rule by ourself? Lets take chance and give India its dignity back..!!
RE:we should rule
by Rashmi Dubey on Mar 07, 2007 02:15 PM Permalink
Hi PD definately 'jumping Out of the context' ...then again Congress & Allies will get abuses & blames left & right here....because this party is RESPONSIBLE FOR DIVIDING SOCIETY , IMPROPER & POOR DEVELOPMENT, TAXING PEOPLE ON EVERY POSSIBLE INSTANCE...NEXUS WITH BUILDERS & OTHER INDUSTRIALISTS....SO DEFINATELY REVOLUTION is best and QUICKEST WAY to free India from clutches of Politicians and for Nation development and welfare of ALL PEOPLE
The Govt knew about the airlines and their capacity. Instead of increasing infrastructure to provide better services, it is trying to penalize for use at our convenience. Why should we pay more? Why did we pay our taxes in the first place if they have to tax addl. cess for education, airport etc?
