The utterences against Murthy are sheer nonsesense. It seems people do not have much serious things to do. It seems that people are well fed and clad and have much idle time to spent on such non issues. It is very diificult for a nation to progress if it spends its time in such non productive unwanted and unwarranted exercises. The man, his character, his track recods, his wife wearing a hand woven sari never suggest the image being portrayed by some readers and in some section of the emedia. Sensational journalism, jealousy against a flawless successful individual has become an order of the day. No one achieves anything except some undue attention by that. Murthy's name being floated as next Presidential candidate has added fuel to the fire of anti Murthy tirades. What a shame and senselessness! May God bless us!!
I am completely propose Narayan Murthi to convert to OBC. Then he has become good president of India. Pleae show your support for good cause that help poor.
RE:Narayan Murthi - OBC
by Julius Caeser on Apr 15, 2007 08:19 PM Permalink
Get back to school and learn your English dude. Don't rattle your brains over an issue you will never understand. Some day hopefully you will be able to come out the "free" things the government is doling out to you.
RE:Narayan Murthi - OBC
by HighCaste Hindu on Apr 14, 2007 12:57 AM Permalink
And you...convert and become a Brahmin. Seek vengence for centuries of in equality. But my dear, this is not something that you and I created. But the well off in India have paid too much for the OBC's. It's time to migrate.
I beg to differ on the popular opinion about Mr.Murthy.
I dont know why people rave about Mr.Murthy excessively. You should not forget that there are scores people who were behind IT revolution in India. I like them for their low profile.
Mr.Murhty lives in fantacy world.
He thinks future belongs to those who respect English and American Lifestyle.
He think one should forgo their mother tongue, ethnic culture, and national anthem.
Thank God he is not prososed for Presidential Post. Then you would see everywhere only American flag and American anthem.
Having said that i cannot ignore about his acheivement done, rewards obtained.
He should behave in public like TCS Ramodurai, Satyam Ramalingalu Raju,CTS Lakshmi Narayan and scores other modest pople.
RE:Why only murhty?
by LAGIDU on Apr 13, 2007 02:54 PM Permalink
Our Prime Nehta Mr.Manmohan Singh went to UK and in his capacity as the PM of India, gave a stunning speech. He complimented the Firanghees that they gave a very good rule in India. Lakhs of Indian freedom fighters' souls would have turned in their grave. NRN's comment as an individual about the national anthem is nothing when compared to the wound inflicted by the reigning Prime Minister on the indian psyche.
Why then the PM was let off but an individual NRN is hounded? It is because NRN is endowed with all the disqualifications. He is not a politician; is meritocracy; is self made; not born in the right caste; not dependent on a constituency of rabble rousers; has made millionaires out of his shareholders who invested that 85 rupees at the time of Infosys IPO; is creating jobs in thousands every year; all this without touching the treasury of the government. He is so a soft target.
Come on guys. teach NRN all the lessons. Teach him how he should behave in public. Teach him what and how he should make a speech. Tell him how to run a corporate. Tell him how to manage HR.
RE:Why only murhty?
by Natures on Apr 13, 2007 03:22 PM Permalink
Common man, I am notdisparaging his accomplishment.
All i am asking why he considers himself the proverbial MR.Right(right in saying English medium from 1st Std, No national anthem in front of foreigner)
RE:Why only murhty?
by LAGIDU on Apr 13, 2007 03:34 PM Permalink
It is the quality of every leader, I believe. They always consider themselves to be right and never follow others. They also don't care whether any one is following them. That is why, I think, he quit BIAL. He was shrewed that it was a waste of time and resources quarelling with Gowda, the sleeper.
When a nobody like myself think that I am right, wont NRN, the achiever think that way? His vision may be that English is going to provide employment in future for the vast masses of our country. He is worried that Chinese are fast learning it. Chinese' gain will be our loss in the global employment market. Thanks.
RE:Why only murhty?
by What on Apr 13, 2007 11:30 PM Permalink
You seem to have some personal problems or may be old time rivalry with Mr. Murthy. You don't really have any facts to prove what you said. Don't forget that he has created employment for more than 60,000 educated people in India and also contributed to India's economy directly and indirectly. What is your worth? I believe you must be someone who couldn't even clear the interview at Infosys. So just think how you too can contribute to the country in some way instead of making allegations on someone who has done so much. I challenge you to prove your points with some valid evidences and proper justifications of those.
RE:Why only murhty?
by Vaidhyanathan Lakshminarayanan on Apr 14, 2007 12:23 AM Permalink
I fully agree with you and LAGIDU. None of us even have the basic eligibility to comment, leave alone criticize, about NRN, given his stature and the contributions he has made to the Indian economy and the thousands of Indians. ets ive it at that.
RE:Real workers are getting peanuts...and see what above what they earn
by Prakash Desai on Apr 13, 2007 05:21 PM Permalink
Gentleman, what you get is what you are worth of. If you feel, you are worth more than Rs.16,000 or Rs.22,00. Go, quit your job, and find someone who is ready to pay for your talent Rs. 1,00,000 or Rs. 1 million a month. Do not abuse your employer who provides you your everyday bread-butter-morning tea and two times meals. If you are capable, you must get job for Rs. 1,00,000 or more. If you do not find, it means, you are worth only Rs.16,000 or Rs.22,000. Do not blame your employers Only you should be blamed for it
RE:Real workers are getting peanuts...and see what above what they earn
by Mahesh Nadkarni on Apr 13, 2007 06:22 PM Permalink
Very nice reply....i am also of the same opinion...Dont blame the employer for salary...its you job to ask and get more or quit..Thats how a capitalist system works...its only on merit and value that a person is paid ...otherwise what is the diff between a govt job ,where everyone gets the same ,and in any software private company?
RE:Real workers are getting peanuts...and see what above what they earn
by Natures on Apr 13, 2007 02:31 PM Permalink
Not really, Any how Mr Rahul Malhotra providing you free internet access to chat online leisurely.
RE:Real workers are getting peanuts...and see what above what they earn
by Abhishek Chaki on Apr 14, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
hey ramesh very touching problem! :(
RE:Real workers are getting peanuts...and see what above what they earn
by franklin wilson on Apr 13, 2007 03:18 PM Permalink
Software companies in India are career killers as well.As you grow senior ,the companies push you into managerial responsibilites (while still paying you a developers salary).Eventually you lose your technical skills and cannot change jobs so frequently.Thats when they truly start exploiting you.
If you play your cards well and know how to beat these companies in their game , you can buy your first mercedez by the time you are in your early thirties ;)
Indian software giants like Infy and TCS pay techies close to minimum wages on deputation abroad and acquire tenders by underestimating time and effort required.As a result poor techies are required to work extra hours and weekends to meet these project deadlines
RE:Techie killer
by Gunther on Apr 13, 2007 02:01 PM Permalink
agree with u.. but the 'poor techies' can leave their job if they feel it's paining them too much! Besides it's the same poor techies who get promoted early (compared to othwer professions) and continue with the process of underestimation! It's a free world, anyways!
RE:Techie killer
by Mahesh Nadkarni on Apr 13, 2007 06:25 PM Permalink
Why dont you quit? you are not a slave of such a company...quit and teach them a lesson!!!i am sure they will miss you
RE:Techie killer
by Abhishek Chaki on Apr 14, 2007 11:03 AM Permalink
the lowest bidder gets away with max number of contracts/clients and max exports from India!
RE:Techie killer
by BlurBlur on Apr 13, 2007 01:49 PM Permalink
Seems like you have worked in the industry long enough! No company will overestimate the effort involved for its a competitive world!
In m opinion its a level playing field and Infosys have done very well and would like to congratulate them.
P.S. Im not an Infosys employee trying to patronise the organisation.
RE:Techie killer
by franklin wilson on Apr 13, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
Yea , I've had about 8 years in this industry and worked in several projects.The modus operandi is the same , quote lesser than other companies overseas (which pay their employees market wages),underestimate the project timelines and make the employees work weekends.Some companies refused to pay overtime (which is the norm overseas) while others paid only 1/3rd.I finally decided I had enough and moved overseas permanently.Even when some Indian companies approached me for contracting work , they offered me offshore rates ,considering I was an Indian.
RE:INFY strong in NASDAQ
by Sivaraju Reddy on Apr 13, 2007 01:42 PM Permalink
These private companies must be banned from India, they are not "reservation" and they are doing divide and rule. we not get oppurtunity. simply cheating and getting land and doing bad things.
RE:INFY strong in NASDAQ
by meenakshi sundaresan on Apr 13, 2007 07:48 PM Permalink
first of all learn to speak clearly. if by reservation you mean "reservation by caste" that is worst thing that has happened in india. we need to get people based on merit regardless of caste.IT companies have put india on the global map. wake up to the reality!!!
RE:INFY strong in NASDAQ
by rahul kolhe on Apr 13, 2007 09:53 PM Permalink
This is not just the IT/BPO companies have put india on the global map. There are many other sectors have their own contribution towards the indian economy; especially heavy industries and Auto mobile sectors. India is going to be a Design hub for the whole world in near future. Also IT companies do not hire people on their merit basis but choose them from big and famous educational institutes or reference of their current employees. The real growth of India will be when such companies shares the percentage of their employees from poor but educated society. I mean village students, who could not enroll themselves to these high fees seeking institutes because of their economic conditions. They should also hire people from smaller and unfamous colleges; where students are waiting for jobs and ready to give their 200% effort.
RE:INFY strong in NASDAQ
by renga on Apr 18, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
just wake up guys. Stop talking rubbish and try to improve urself in moving forward. Dont stand in a place and envy about those who move forward. As long as we talk on reservations we will never prosper.
RE:INFY strong in NASDAQ
by Purushotham Muthuluru on Apr 13, 2007 02:05 PM Permalink
I am sorry!! Why do you want reservation sir? This is a competitive world. Best people should get best opportunities.
About you not getting an opprotunity, I guess you are not able to communicate properly. That is evident in your message, I am not able to clearly understand what you intended in your message. Yuo should put your efforts in improving your communication skills, rather than being mad at Infosys.
Apart from the financial results, what I liked most about Infosys is its succession policy. Mr Narayan Murthy to Nadan Nilekani to Gopalakrishnan especially when they are at 60 or less than 60 years of age. In any IT services companies, team building is the most important aspect apart from the financials. I wish the same succession policy is also followed by our ministers and vacate their chairs for the next line of leaders.
RE:Succession Policy
by Paramesh Waran on Apr 13, 2007 05:26 PM Permalink
Do you all realise that all of the names mentioned above in the article are part of the original founding team of Infosys. They are all of nearly the same age and obviously are only playing their version of musical chairs by shifting up/sideways into different slots. Wipro on the other hand is completely Mr.Premji's show and he keeps appointing outside professionals in key positions.
RE:Succession Policy
by LAGIDU on Apr 13, 2007 01:09 PM Permalink
This is where Infosys scores over dynastically run companies of Tata, Birla, et al. Even after the hard earned status of multi millioners, the infy team has not lost its middle class values.
RE:RE:Succession Policy
by Gunther on Apr 13, 2007 12:52 PM Permalink
Appreciate ur imagination to compare the political machine to arguably ONE OF India's best run companies!! My friend, it would be great if they don't find a way to cling on to their chairs after their deaths
RE:Is Infosys a CA in making
by Arpan Shah on Apr 13, 2007 02:05 PM Permalink
Your first point is 100% wrong. Fresher means bad quality is not a true sentence and can not hold any logical ground. Because every one was fresher one upon a time and we all learn by making mistake.
RE:Is Infosys a CA in making
by BlurBlur on Apr 13, 2007 02:15 PM Permalink
Agree with Arpan! Freshers also bring fresh ideas and enthusiasm to the team.
RE:Is Infosys a CA in making
by piyush shah on Apr 13, 2007 06:29 PM Permalink
dude, first learn stuff about accounting and accounting standards. Salaries of freshers does not consititute to even 10% of the income. So hiring freshers is not a way in which they are generating output. They simply are doing a great job and getting good projects. Moreover I feel its because of such companies that so many people in india are employed today.
