First let Mumbai fix up its power and water problems before thinking that big. Do you know, many of its suburbs are under power cuts for 6-7 hours daily!
RE:Very Difficult to do
by prashant pangare on Apr 02, 2007 11:27 PM Permalink
if migrants have this kind of attitude they should go back to their respecive states and improve their states with so called briliance or capital and marathi manus will manage maharastra.
So, are you saying that migrants are coming to Mumbai to make it beautiful for Marathi people? Why can't migrants go to Bihar or say North East to make it beautiful? If migrants have such a noble purpose then why they are not going to UP to help it progress?
This argument is plain stupid. Migrants come to Mumbai and rest of the Maharashtra because they value it. They can see the difference between their native places and Maharashtra.
As far USA is concerned, try sleeping on side walk in USA and they will throw you out in the pacific.
As you have said, USA attracts best minds from all over the world. They DON'T attract people sleeping on side walks and indulging in crimes.
Having said this, I know every Indian has right to go to any place in India but NO Indian has right to illegally grab government land.
And for the Shivsena is concerned, if DMK can talk about TN then Shivsena has RIGHT to talk about Marathi's. Get over it!
Last but not least. Migrants MUST respect Marathis. I would respect Bengali in Bengal and Punjabi in Punjab and I would expect same in Mumbai from non Maharashtrians. If you dont want to do this simple thing then you are inviting bug trouble for yourselves in future. Take it from me!!!!
RE:Very Difficult to do
by sanjay prasad on Apr 03, 2007 01:02 AM Permalink
you are right , one should always respect the locals first, wherever he goes to earn bread . its like if you go to someone house and do not cooperate with him and still think of going on staying with him is absurd.
RE:Very Difficult to do
by Javed MEandDad on Apr 03, 2007 02:08 AM Permalink
shut up bengali....atleast rest of maharashtra is richer than UP BIHAR And ur 3rd class west bengal...whioch is a living gutter
RE:Very Difficult to do
by Ram Dwivedi on Apr 03, 2007 08:35 AM Permalink
In the latest study, the highest number of poor live in UP followed by Bihar. But the highest percentage of poor (with respect to th etotal population of the state) live in Maharashtra!!!! marathis have a wrong notion of their prosperity; Mumbai is not Maharashtra... there are districts like LAtur too.
RE:Very Difficult to do
by Rohit on Apr 03, 2007 09:54 AM Permalink
Have you been to ANY major US City?
DC, New York, Boston, Chicago are all OVER-RUN with homeless people. Walk around the White House this Summer, and if you meet < 10 pan-handlers, I will buy you a beer.
RE:Very Difficult to do
by Deepak Chaudhary on Apr 02, 2007 10:27 PM Permalink
Hey, U have a wrong notion that taxes generated by Mumbai are used for rest of Maharashtra. Most of Taxes paid by Mumbai goes to centr, only the smaller taxes such as Octroi goes to BMC. Maharashtra spends small amount for rest of Maharashtra compared to Mumbai. U must go to rural part of Maharashtra & see the condition of ppl. U can not imagine 14 hrs of load shedding living in Mumbai.
There is no reservation by Maharashtra govt on the basis of language. Shiv Sainik may be talking abt reservations for Marathis but its not the policy adopted by state govt. I also believe that migrant population is more responsible for development. But it must include Marathis if it has to occur in Maharashtra.
RE:Very Difficult to do
by Rahul R Zaveri on Apr 02, 2007 11:15 PM Permalink
U seem to be a sympathiser of the govt...maybe you're on the govt payroll. There's more to it than what meets the eye... For example, 80% of Maharashtra's revenues gets spent on salaries of state govt employees who hardly do any work. Maharashtra state is the highest employer of people most of whom do nothing but squat on files. The politicians and the entire govt machinery are totally corrupt... You can get details from upright govt officers like Mr Arun Bhatia who worked for underprivileged and deprived tribals and unearthed major scams during his tenure, but was declared unfit and mentally deranged by the politicians and the govt, and Mr G R Khainar who worked to uphold the law. Corrupt politicians and govt officers have sold all of the vast and open spaces reserved for schools, hospitals, gardens, etc. to builders and developers, not only in Mumbai but also in other parts of the state. They call themselves the leaders of the masses, garland statues of Shivaji and Mahatma Gandhi, but own huge farm houses and fleets of imported cars that cost anything from between 20 lakhs to a few crores. The only visible govt activity that's been going on right since independence is to LOOT THE PEOPLE, AND FILL THEIR OWN POCKETS AT ANY COST. No wonder the state is under a huge debt burden that has reached Rs. 1,40,000 crores. One can only hope for the country and for its blind people to wake up.
we, people are responsible for becoming our cities dirtier. If we go and visit some areas in cities like London (Eastham,Southall,whitechapel, upton park) Barcelona (Parallel) Frankfurt (opp: main train station) , Rome (opp: termini station) and Singapore (where indians are living) then we can definitely say Asians(Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis) are the dirtiest people. Remaining areas look very clean and tidy compared to the locations mentioned above. Those areas mostly occupied by asians. They run 2,3 shops within one shop. They run busineeses on footpaths. They dump all old house old items on the streets or infront of their houses. People cross the roads where they are not supposed to be crossing. Half of the properties look very old without proper maintainance. There are some areas which are exceptional they look good eventhough our people are living there.I don't know the reason. There is 24 hours power and water supply, there is regular collection of garbage but still the streets, shops look very basic. The problem is within our lifestyle people want to save money they don't want to spend on the maintainace of the properties, some are lazy don't want to keep the houses and premises clean and tidy the average manual hours spend by asians are very less compared to avg hours spend by a white in maintainig the property. Why countries like New zealand,Australia, Canada, Britain, U.S and majority of the european countries and their cities look good and beautiful and why countries like India, Nepal, Pakistan, Bangaldesh and majority of the south asian countries and their cities look dirtier ? money or wealth is not a sole facor may be one of the factors but attitude is the main problem
RE:we can change frankfurt, london and tokyo like bombay or delhi
by Praveen Varma on Apr 02, 2007 09:56 PM Permalink
i AGREE WITH YOU TO A LARGE EXTENT , THE PROBLEM HERE IS COMFORTABLE ACCEPTANCE OF MEDIOCRITY IN ALL SPHERES OF LIFE ( CLEANLINESS INCLUDED) IS A MAJOR PROBLEM HERE. WELL ONE MUST ADMIT THAT LIFE IS MUCH TOUGHER HERE SO ONE CANNOT LIVE HERE OPPOSING MEDIOCRITY
all nonsense ... nothing can happen in India except fighting betwen the political parties for their own benefits, fighting between Hindu - vs - muslims Shia - vs - sunnis open - vs - sc/st/obc's Dividing the society on communal lines ... and what not ... 30 years ago Dubai was just a desert and see today .. they have build a world class city ... do you think India can be in this race .. not at all .. unless U have somebody with an iron fist to resolve the issues ... India will be home for poor and downtrodden people and I am finding India going the Sudan or Somalia way rather than going Singapore or Frankfurt way ...
Hats off to the Panel who recommended all this .. knowing fully that none of their recommendations would be fulfilled ... just a sheer waste of time, money and energy on giving recommendations ...at the expense of the ex-chequer ...
Well Mumbai has inadequate infrastructure, Bangaloreans have zilch! If a mumbaiite sees Bangalore roads, people can understand how much better their situation is in Mumbai...Even by lanes in mumbai are bigger than Bangalores arterial roads!
Please do not have high hopes... We will not see any international class city of the like London or New York or HK or SING in India for the next 50 years. Though I yearn...
What we Mumbaiker get, we pay highest Tax in India compare to any Metro and still Neither State Govt. nor Central Govt. cares about Mumbaiker.
Every working person in Mumbai get Tax Deducted from Salary and in return what they get not a Enough Pure Drinking water, No Fresh Air to breath and no space in Local Trains.
RE:Seperate Mumbai from Maharashtra
by Deepak Chaudhary on Apr 02, 2007 10:08 PM Permalink
Large part of the taxes Mumbai pays goes 2 centre & not to the state govt. so one can not blame Maha govt for not developing Mumbai. Infact Mumbai is the priority when it comes to developing Maharashtra. There no logical reason u provided on the basis of which Mumbai shud b separated from Maharashtra. If u r so greedy 4 developement why dont u say seperate Mumbai from India.
RE:Seperate Mumbai from Maharashtra
by puneet alag on Apr 03, 2007 02:02 AM Permalink
this idea that mubia pays 40% of taxes to the centre is bullshit. The fact is most of corporate hq of comapnies like tata ,relaice essar etc is in mumbai , these comanies have factories in bihar orrisa bengal , himachal and all over the world.the workers and managers in all those factores are local and all over india.same goes for white collar jobs. i have been hearing this bullshit for years.
RE:ARE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS REALISTIC ?
by Santhakumar SS on Apr 02, 2007 09:32 PM Permalink
----------------------------------- "..Perhaps, 25-30 per cent of them will be of Indian origin. The remainder will be expatriates from around the world representing every country that has significant trade and investment links with India (and Asia). . . from over hundred different countries," it said. ..." ----------------------------------- i think this comment is not about common mumbai population, so wada need not worry this. I THINK what reccomendations project is the number of people working in teh so called new financial hub(directly in this business) this will not include mumbai general public. However its unwise to say 25-30 per cent of them will be of Indian origin and the other foreign!! it just depends on the suvvessof mumbai. this cant be predicted...
