Its a news that shall give satisfaction to the 'patriotic mindset' of any indian.But IITians are priceless gems and they may end up with unwanted situations like the one involving murder of Mr Dubey from Kanpur if they live in India and waste their energy and capacity.There are good opportunities in India as well,but the side weighing bad situations is more.India is a place of unsophasticated politics these days and I would really not want to be a part of this situation.
what is said in the article is true. Fewer IITian are going abroad because of increase in remuneration in Indian Industries and that the students are apprehensive of future after an MS.
This shall not last long as the IITians who passed out and hav experienced few years of industry here tend to go for higher education typically an MBA.
For IITians to be in the country the market has to mature still further,create more entrepreneurial opportunities. One cant keep the best in the country with out offering lucrative responsibilities and remuneration.
lots to write..but the underlying fact is clear... the Drain has been offset by certain years but is def there unless the THE GOVT. realizes this and takes enough steps to retain them.
I dont know where did the director of IITM get his information from, but in USA, it usually takes 3-5 years to complete your Ph.D. I know lots of friends who have done it in 3-4 years. In all these years here, I have never heard anyone taking 7 years to do it. 6 was the worst I heard, and that too was one isolated case. So I would urge the director not to manipulate facts and come up with better logic for explaining the facts
The boom which is attracting IITians to stay back in India is strongly being driven by services sector, or more aptly knowledge sector. One favorable change experienced by placements at various IITs is diversity of jobs which are being offered. But peaking packages and work environments in knowledge sector jobs is pushing more and more engineers to move out of manufacturing sector. IT and ITES jobs in campus account for >70% of total offers and increasing. There should be a well balanced pie between various sectors. If this means manufacturing companies should get to path of innovation, expansion, challenges and competitiveness then surely we will have merry time all around.
A couple of relevant points, but a lot of bullshit thrown in!
"Moreover, getting admissions for MS for an IITian in a US university is very tough these days because many American students are opting for master's programmes."
Hmmm, so in that case, why did the US govt increase work visas by 20,000 starting this yr, with those 20,000 specifically for foriegn students with an advanced degree?
"Also, Vasudev says, if someone commits to do a PhD in the US, it takes about seven years, which is not an attractive proposition at present."
This is another BS again! The commentor seems to have no idea about the system. On the maximum, it takes 5 yrs to get done with a PHD (alone) after a Masters (2 years with a thesis, one and a half years without a thesis). If the student decides during his Masters program that he will want to proceed with a PhD in the same university, the course work is usually adjusted. In this way, a substantial part of the course work for the PhD is waived because the student does all that during his Masters itself! In this way, a student completes both his Masters and Phd within 5 yrs!
What Dean V Kalyan Ram says is false. Most people are opting to stay back since aid for M.S is not forthcoming in many US Universities. Ppl who want M.S/Ph.D are lesser in number than before. Plus, all those who have taken up jobs stick to it for 1 or 2 years and then, they either apply again to US universities or go for an MBA . So his figure of 40% would have already come down to a 10% and if you consider MBA as a Brain Drain for an Engineer whom the govt. invested in, that 10% will also vanish off. And finally, the same people after an MBA go abroad to work there....... So what is present is still present in the same numbers, if not more, but just that the timing has changed instead of immediately after graduation to 1/2 years after it. Lets accept the fact instead of cooking up wrong figures. Plus, most of these IITians work for MNCs like IBM, Intel, GE,Oracle, etc in a non-engg. related field mostly at a cheaper rate. So this is actually worse than Brain Drain. On returning back to India, only the 'incapable' ones for family sakes, etc come back, the capable ones come back only after their productive age to retire peacefully. So we lose anyways. This is my personalopinion
First let me warn people against the notion that finally the main indian purpose of premier technical institutions is served. I may agree with the third reason pointed out (decrease in the opportunities in US for IITians). But not certainly with the first two because this is only a case of few toppers in IIT who have a choice between Admit to good univ in US and a very good job in (mind you it is most of the times in MNC) India. And if u closely monitor there is another trend quite contrary to this. More and more people(IITians mainly) working in India are very much looking towards an MS or MBA abroad as they realise that this is the best they can do with the opportunities available. So, staying back is just a temporary shift in the mindest of IITians and there are stiil no enough opportunities in India to sustain this. And the jobs that most of the IITians settling with in India are again in IT which makes no distinction from other engg colleges. So, I would just like to say this is not a big change that we all are hoping for i.e. India really competing for Best Brain Capture and in fact something to be worried about too as more IITians are made to settle in not so best career.
