It is good that Bengal hating messages are on the decline. It is time to talk about the team and players instead of regional biases. Regarding Dravid's obsession with Sehwag it can be said that cricketers have their peculiarities. Saurav also once gave too many chances to Dravid out of his affection to him. Not scoring at all or scoring at a snails pace, Dravid was kept in the team by Saurav even as an wicketkeeper. Dravid similarly find s a bowler in Viru and keeps him in the team. But Dravid has backstabbed Saurav. No doubt on this.
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by Suman Bhat on Mar 12, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
It is not dravid but ganguly backstabbed dravid during ZIM tour by vomiting dressing room conflict in front of media after scoring a 100 in 300 balls. It it was dravid who mediated between chappell and ganguly ehen they had problem in ZIM. It was ganguly who used dlamiay as godfather when dalmiay had power in bcci and backstabbed him by sending email mag against dalmiay just 2 days before the CAB election it was ganguly who backstabbed dalmiay by chnging party and helped mumbai big boss to dethrown dalmiya from CAB, it was ganguly who used politicians influence to pressure the selection commitee. not dravid if dravid is politician cricketer why he would have been a role model to so many young cricketers? why ICC gave him 3 awards which did not happen to any other cricketer? Why he won Castoril cricketer and batsman of year 2006 ( 4 tims in last 10yrs and sachin also won 4times )?? Why he would have been won MTV Youth ICon of award??? Even knowing that 2 ex captians are fighiting for captaincy along with chief selector are breathing his head , why he is fighting with board for players contract . or fighting against crap statment of vengsaraka about pathana and sewag?? Dravid earns respect of his teammates b'cuz he performed cosistantly for team under pressure. Not by showing his authority on field as a captain?? check the last 6-7 yrs team ind won record in odis and tests/. read stat about dravid's contrubitons in partnerships... ganguly take credit for success of other players and team victory but dravid shared the credit of team win. dravid shared dias while doing press breifs when team won ..had ganguly ever did like that?? When team defeated he pushed dravid to face media...
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by Indra Sengupta on Mar 12, 2007 08:26 PM Permalink
One guy is Sumanbai and another this on or what. Posting unnecessary messages on Dravid and Saurav. When World Cup March past takes place Dravid is the man for India by hook or crook as the leader, you can not escape the truth. This copy paste Suman and on should choose some other topic.
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by praveen kumar on Mar 12, 2007 09:17 AM Permalink
well said my friend!!! ganguly has stabbed by dravid,chappel,kiran more and indirectly by sachin. even sachin never made a favour comment on ganguly when ganguly was out of the team. but if dravid,kumble,agarkar,sehwag...etc will be out side then certainly he would have made favour comment of them. even dravid also when vengsarkar asked about ganguly inclussion in the team (recent south africa tour), chappel,dravid directly said that they don't want ganguly and they invite any other player except ganguly, and sachin said he doesn't want to make a comment of ganguly's inclussion in the team. but only sehwag(that time he was vice captain)said they desperately need ganguly's presence and he also said that it will give boost to the team. the same result has happend that situation. but i can say that DRAVID,SACHIN AND CHAPPEL ARE SELFISH AND FURIOUS JEALOUS PEOPLE ABOUT GANGULY!!! coz ganguly reached and crossed soo many mile stones with his own ability and caliber and he also shown that he was/is/will be the best captain for india! i can also say that he is the most populer man in entire team like rather than sachin,dravid,dhone,yuvi...etc till now. that's y he is accupies in all the reginal,national n international channels. HE DESERVE IT ALSO!!!
WE CAN'T THE SUN'S LIGHT AND POWER WITH OUR HANDS AND HUMAN POWER, WE HAVE FACE IT !
DRAVID,CHAPPEL AND SACHIN HAS TO FACE GANGULY'S MAJESTY,MIGHTY,AWESOM,STUPENDOUS CALIBER !!! THEY DESERVE IT!
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by ramachandran nair on Mar 12, 2007 05:06 PM Permalink
Here, I believe, Mr More, the so called then chairman of the board, was mainly responsibile for keeping away Gangully in the team, as a logical support to Chappel. In the process, dravid also did not say a single word in favour og dada and he was harping on performance. He himself was out of contention on numerous occasion due to him form and also due to habit to scoring on a snail pace. Dada helped him a lot then, keeping him in the team, a batsman cum keeper, just to save dravid face. Unfortunately, he did not pay him back, in the same coin. Similarly, the so called little blaster, Sachin, also did not utter a single word about dada, under whom he played so many matches. This speaks their behaviour pattern. Habit seldom dies. Only after Mr Vengsarkar took over a chairman, the things started brightening for Dada and the rest is history. And I strongly believe Dada fares better than these so called custodians of the game.
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by on Mar 12, 2007 08:05 PM Permalink
D waited like a wet cat. He behaved like a trusted deputy to S. On the offside first God then Ganguly, he said. Waited for S's bad patch. Manufactured the story of S being a politician, lazy etc. floated by him. C the coach was convinced through conspiracy against S. KM the selector was the spokesman of the conspirators united. The change of guards at the Board also helped. D posed as pro board and S was painted as anti Board. The exit was unceremonious and at a time when the bad patch of S was fizzling out, he just scored a century. The conspiracy was not for correction. It was deadly and aimed at finishing S. D is the spearhead. Whenever S's name came for selection he vehemently opposed. That S was determined and made a comeback is a different story. That S had fan followings all over India, in the media,among the politicians, film stars is a different story. That D wanted to quickly manufacture a left hand replacement of S in the form of R or P just to block his comeback is known to all. Support D as a captain, no way out, but do not forget history. Throw away the copy paste reports of D as a great captain in the garbage bin. One has to be a good human being first than anything else. Inspite of being nutured and supported by S in his bad times D did this. How can you respect D, my dear copy paste copy cat?
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by Wilson Wilson on Mar 12, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
Dear Pravin,
I think you are nothing but senti(mental) blindly on Saurav. yes. you have all rights to be so whom you are so much attached with. Nevertheless, you can not accuse / thro mud on every one for proving your point. I differ with the point that even sachin did not support gangu during his trials. But remember that no one in the team wanted to support gangu, which shows that no one liked the so called dada. It was true by the reports and facts that Sauraw encoraged groupism and was trying to divide the team at that point of time. As a matured person he should have obeyed the coach's guidlines but the dada was acting smart by trying to over rule the coach. Saurav that he is going to be the everlasting captain of team India. The team, coach, selectors are really replied him very nicely by not supporting him. Forget how good a player is - he is bound to be dedicated, deciplined and team oriented. I really respect and carry great regard for Sachin.not because he is one of best cricketers in the world. but because of his attitude. He is the guy we respects every one. despite being top in the world cricket. Ganguly was very selfish and never placed team on priority. He was very sentimental (like you) and get carried away by emotions. But Dravid is very composed, calm and is willing to sacrifice his positions even to late middle orders for the sake of team. If you just ask gangu to bad at one man down - then you will see what he is going to utter to the media. for get what people like u will start telling - all in the team are stabbing gangu by forcing him to bad at no 3. please come out of your egg shell. India and the world is much bigger, dear friend!!!
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by Ritwik Bhuyan on Mar 12, 2007 11:20 AM Permalink
WHY DON'T YOU ADMIT THAT IT'S HARD FOR YOU ALL TO DIGEST THE FACT THAT TENDULKAR IS THE GREATEST BATSMAN EVER !! DON'T GET FRUSTRATED THAT GANGULY, DRAVID OR ANYONE ELSE WOULD NEED NINE LIVES BUT STILL WON'T BE ABLE TO ESTABLISH THEMSELVES ON TENDULKAR'S LEVEL. DON'T GET FRUSTRATED ABOUT THE FACT THAT CRICKET 'BIBLE' WISDEN RATES TENDULKAR AS THE 2ND GREATEST EVER BOTH IN TEST MATCHES AND ODI MATCHES ..... GANGULY OR DRAVID DOESN'T EVEN COME INTO CONSIDERATION IN THAT LIST !!
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by shaji chamy on Mar 12, 2007 03:19 PM Permalink
Dude look at the Records.. Ganguly does not have all the strokes which Tendulkar have. Ganguly does not have great foot work like Tendulkar...... But still ganguly made 10,000 runs and he is the only competitor to Tendulkar... Ganguly`s will power is wat makes a big difference ..... Ganguly was not given a chance to play like sewag. Dravid says that he still has faith in Sewag. Don%u2019t you think that it is a injustice made my Dravid to the Ganguly. The same faith if it would have been to ganguly he would have crossed Tendulkar Now%u2026%u2026 THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN CALLING TENDULKAR A LEGEND BUT HE IS NOT THE ONLY LEGEND %u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026%u2026..
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by Raman on Mar 12, 2007 11:10 AM Permalink
Very well said,Sachin if not for being a Mumbaitee wouldve been criticised for lot of things,like Selfish play all throut his carrier,Ferrari issue where he showed us how cheap he was to not pay taxes,match fixing where he kept quiet until it was all found out and pretended to know nothing about it,in Ganguly issue i am sure he couldve said a good word about Dada,but he didnt because Dada pushed him down the order and India won lot of matches that way and even pointed out indirectly in 2000 that whats the point in scoring 25 centuries when the team doesnt win.
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by bharat on Mar 12, 2007 11:47 AM Permalink
What makes you guys think that players from Mumbai have some special previleges? Remember that the BCCI was led by Jagmohan Dalmia and his team for most of the past decayed. There was not official in the BCCI during this period who had any special affinity towards Mumbai. Unless you have solid evidence to show that favours were done to the Mumbai players in general, donot dare talk further on this topic.
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by pradeep muthappa poolakand on Apr 09, 2007 02:22 PM Permalink
Many people (experts and laymen) have tried to find the reasons for Indian cricket%u2019s loss at the world cup. And most of them have acknowledged that Indian cricket players are talented. But I do not agree to such perceptions at all. When I look at the Indian cricket team with my "big picture approach," I find that team is comprised of people without muscles and strong bones!!! And, a weak mind (sans guts) further has worsened the team%u2019s performance. We Indians do not measure performance objectively, but are inclined to form an opinion on the basis of what%u2019s heard on the street and the media. I am just curious to know the selection criteria adopted by the godfathers of Indian cricket. My perception is that the selection is based on the opinions at the dinner tables, and other casual meetings of the godfathers. I would also not rule out the telephonic recommendations of higher ups in the political faction. No wonder, I can only see skinny, week minded, selfish, records-oriented (not results-oriented) cricketing demi-gods in the team! India cricket team is a reflection of the political class in our country. In my opinion, all 11 players in the team should be sportspersons in the first place and then cricketers. I say this because cricket is basically a lazy person%u2019s game. There is a strong need to mould real sports persons into cricketers and I don%u2019t see this happening at least till India cricket loses its political clout.
RE:Rahul brutus Dravid
by Suman Bhat on Mar 13, 2007 11:47 AM Permalink
It is not dravid but ganguly backstabbed dravid during ZIM tour by vomiting dressing room conflict in front of media after scoring a 100 in 300 balls. It it was dravid who mediated between chappell and ganguly ehen they had problem in ZIM. It was ganguly who used dlamiay as godfather when dalmiay had power in bcci and backstabbed him by sending email mag against dalmiay just 2 days before the CAB election it was ganguly who backstabbed dalmiay by chnging party and helped mumbai big boss to dethrown dalmiya from CAB, it was ganguly who used politicians influence to pressure the selection commitee. not dravid if dravid is politician cricketer why he would have been a role model to so many young cricketers? why ICC gave him 3 awards which did not happen to any other cricketer? Why he won Castoril cricketer and batsman of year 2006 ( 4 tims in last 10yrs and sachin also won 4times )?? Why he would have been won MTV Youth ICon of award??? Even knowing that 2 ex captians are fighiting for captaincy along with chief selector are breathing his head , why he is fighting with board for players contract . or fighting against crap statment of vengsaraka about pathana and sewag?? Dravid earns respect of his teammates b'cuz he performed cosistantly for team under pressure. Not by showing his authority on field as a captain?? check the last 6-7 yrs team ind won record in odis and tests/. read stat about dravid's contrubitons in partnerships... ganguly take credit for success of other players and team victory but dravid shared the credit of team win. dravid shared dias while doing press breifs when team won ..had ganguly ever did like that?? When team defeated he pushed dravid to face media...
