i have been noticing since last few days that we north indians are making lot of noise against the leader of almost non existing party. instead of that why cant we think about changing our states (up, bihar) son of soil issue will always be there...wherever you go this issue will be there. no place is exception to this. even developed countries are no exception. so it is important for north indians to think about north indian state development. be united, vote for the better governance not cast or religion (we all know how we vote in elections), be optimistic...we can improve....
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by on Feb 08, 2008 06:38 AM Permalink
Let's cool down and think for a while. I am marathi, and I say Raj's means were wrong, and Mumbai is for all Indians, and current violence warrants arrest of Raj. Having said that let's look at some facts. Population of Mumbai : 60 lakhs north Indians, 20 lakh south indians, 30 lakhs marathi & gujrathi speaking each. Now tell me which metropolitan city in India, or for that matter in the world would have natives reduced to minority in their own states with this magnitude. Even here I don't have problem, as Indians they can go wherever, can celebrate whatever their heart desires. It's their right. But now let' try to inject politics in it, and see how it looks. There are here great, but is it not fair to expect them to promote native langauge, culture. Now that north Indians have reached critical mass, they vote enblock to their learders form UP. Now tell me what business has Mulyam Singh Yadav, Amar Singh has holding political parties. Is it because they know they are getting northies votes. These are the same people who voted them in their UP and Bihar and look what they have done to their states. This is the rael problem. We may call Raj a chuvanist and clean the real problem under carpet, but unless the root cause is addressed, there will be Raj in every prosperous state. And for this to discontinue, the people who move should blend in native culture and be part of it by keeping their own identity, and not elect or promote same goons they have elected in their home state.
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by Raja Subramanian on Feb 08, 2008 09:50 AM Permalink
The law of the land is same for one and all. If you are so concerned that the North Indian population has reached its critical mass, when and where was it said that one should not migrate to another state within a free country. What about all the Maharashtrian folk in places like Tanjore, Hyderabad and so forth? What about them being a majority in Belgaum? And what about Telugu people in parts of Karnataka and vice versa? India is a fabric of many cultures and future generations will only evolve to form newer cultures... so, your theory that a particular region should only speak a particular language and have an absolutely majority of one single culture is biased. Pointing out problems is easy, why don't you stop whining about facts and give a suitable solution that could resolve the problem..?
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by Bhaumik on Feb 08, 2008 11:26 AM Permalink
Deepak, you are either unaware or evade the special status of Mumbai before it became part of Maharashtra.
Mumbai was not part of Maharashtra in those days and was the joint capital of Gujarat and Maharashtra. before that Mumbai was the capital of the province which included both provinces and much more. It was also the business capital of British India where people from all over the sub-continent flocked, among them South Indians and people from areas which are now in pakistan.
When Mumbai became part of Maharashtra, Maharsahtra took over a legacy. If it did not want the legacy-population that Mumbai brought along,Maharsahtra could have rejected Mumbai with its majority non-Marathi speaking population. It cannot have it both ways.
In fact the population of Maharashtrians in Mumbai has only increased after Mumbai was made part of Maharshtra. The then existing inhabitants did not protest that increase. So, who is the aggrieved party here, if such aggrievences have any value, which I do not think it has.
Incidentally, the original inhabitants were not Marathas/ Marathi-speaking people from the mainland, but were the Kolis whom lived on all the seven islands of Mumbai. All these people who make divisive noises now, including the Thackarey family, are recent migrants to Mumbai. Out they should go by their own logic, if such divisive tendencies are to be tolerated, which it should not be.
Like the RSS inspired divisive sectarianism is curse on developing India, Shivasena i
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by Bhaumik on Feb 08, 2008 11:28 AM Permalink
..is a curse on Maharashtra. Ill-wishers of maharahstra wants Shivsena to grow and destroy the state.
Your logic in comparing thye demography of other capital cities is entirely flase.
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by Bhaumik on Feb 08, 2008 11:30 AM Permalink
Ooops!.. your logic in comparing the demography of other capital cities with that of Mumbai is entirely false.
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by Ajay on Feb 08, 2008 05:54 AM Permalink
So this justify everything Raj thakre is doing. Then people from Maharstar go out side their state. Like going abroad for work. Do you think Maraheis working US and other places should be treated same. And what is so great about Maharastra. It is just like any other state in Inida. And each state needs a lot of development.
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by Rajeev on Feb 08, 2008 06:21 AM Permalink
Maharashtra rocks !! Thats why every UP/Bihari wants to come here. Every railway minister does an annual duty of starting a train from mumbai to bihar/UP. Thats their concept of development.
