I often wonder why non-Arab people follow Islam when Quran clearly states that it has been sent down in Arabic so that Arabs can understand. The following verses make it clear "A Book, whereof the verses are explained in detail;- a Qur'an in Arabic, for people who understand;" [41:3]
Had We sent this as a Qur'an (in the language) other than Arabic, they would have said: "Why are not its verses explained in detail? What! (a Book) not in Arabic and (a Messenger an Arab?" [41:44]
"And thus have We revealed to you an Arabic Quran, that you may warn the mother city and those around it" [42:7]
Why non-Arabs believe in a Book which clearly states that it is meant for Arabs??????
RE:Why non-arabs embrace/follow Islam?
by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 10:57 AM Permalink
Dear IYER, There are a thousand Times in Koran, to whom the Koran is: Even in the opening few pages of Koran, it is clearly stated that,
1) Koran is for the People of the World...
This line is repeated many times in the Book... It is not a Book only for Muslims, Not only for Arabs but for the entire Human Beings, which includes Hypocrites like you.. Read Koran, the Final Message for People of the World, from the Creator... If not, live Blind and when you die, you will immediately know the TRUTH...
RE:RE:Why non-arabs embrace/follow Islam?
by Anand Iyer on May 16, 2007 11:10 AM Permalink
Dear Ibrahim, if there r contradictory statements in a book, then can it be called a revealation of God?
RE:Why non-arabs embrace/follow Islam?
by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 11:28 AM Permalink
Dear Anand Iyer, Each Sura has a Deep Context, the verses that you have mentioned are not contradicting at all..Since Mohammed is an Arab and he started his Mission from Mecca, the listeners of his Preachings are Arabs, so it will be Logical for everyone to have revealations in Arabic, that is OK.. But once the mission is accomplished in Arabia, also the Koran is for the entire Human Beings, it is the duty of every beleiver to put forth the message of GOD.. Even in Mohammed's life time, this message is taken for all the Surroundings of Arabia to Rome, Egypt, Persia and Central Africa.... My advise is
Let me give you an example of your Stupidity.. Using Hindu Scriptures... We all know MahaBharatha, Krishna asks Arjuna "KILL YOUR GRAND FATHER" can I Cut only that line from GITA and Conclude that, Hinduism allows killing of Grand Father ??? It is stupidity to just take a few lines here and there and come to a conclusion.. I have to read the entire GITA to understand why Krishna asks Arjuna to kill his Grand Father.. Similarly you have to read the Context of SURA in KORAN before Interpretations...
RE:Why non-arabs embrace/follow Islam?
by Anand Iyer on May 16, 2007 11:36 AM Permalink
Dear Ibrahim, u have neither read the Gita nor the Quran. From what u write, I can make that out.In fact in Bhagvad Gita, in verse no.63 of Chapter No.18, Lord Krishna says: "Deeply ponder over what I have revelaed to u and do as u please." So, if Arjuan was free noty to follow what Krisna said if he found did not find Krisna's teaching logical ora ppealing to conscience. Reda both Gita and quran befor commenting on them. Develop the habit of reading!!!!. Think independently. Find out things for yourself. Don't repeat like a parrot what u hear. Is a muslim allowed to do likewise in case of Quran???? If so, Ibrahim, quote Sura and AYAT.
RE:Why non-arabs embrace/follow Islam?
by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 11:43 AM Permalink
The Primary Difference is My Question is Who gave you the Authority to reform a Book...It refers to your Lack of Faith.. We Muslims firmly beleive that Koran is a Word of God, we think the God who has created us knows better than us.. So we are not authorised to add or delete anything in Koran.. But you guys dont firmly beleive that the Vedas is the Word of God, and you keep on changing according to your WISH, this led to the Problems of not understanding the reality.. Till Now No Hindu Priest has given a Clear definition of God....
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by Anand Iyer on May 16, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
Dear Ibrahim, I have quoted Chapter and verse nos. of Quran. PLs. quote the same in support of your arguments.
RE:Why non-arabs embrace/follow Islam?
by KA on May 16, 2007 11:35 AM Permalink
There are many contradictory statements in Koran, but they are all "correct", because they are the word of God and cannot be questioned. Here is a good expose http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26769
RE:RE:Why non-arabs embrace/follow Islam?
by KA on May 16, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
Dr Younus Shaikh on Islam http://www.rationalistinternational.net/article/20041120_en.html
RE:Why non-arabs embrace/follow Islam?
by Trisha Hardikar on May 16, 2007 01:37 PM Permalink
Koran may be for the world. Gita is for Humans. You people are barbarians. Remember ..If there was no change we would have been still living like you (barbarians) Hinduism is flexible in the sense it allows change as per the present context. It is not rigid. Even the rules are modified to suit the requirements.
RE:Why non-arabs embrace/follow Islam?
by KA on May 16, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
Wafa Sultan on Islam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLoasfOLpQ&mode=related&search=
RE:Why non-arabs embrace/follow Islam?
by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 10:42 AM Permalink
Dear Iyer, I agree that Hindu Fanatics like you read Koran more than us... But you end up with the meanings of your Own.. Pathetic ??? Language is secondary in this case but the Beleif is the Primary one.. To make you understand, why do we Indians sing our National Anthem, "Jana Gana" in Bengali ?? 1) Is Bengali the best Language in India.. The answer is No.. 2) Do majority if Indians know Bengali.. The answer is No.... 3) Do all the Indians, understand the exact meaning of "Jana Gana", the answer is No.. Then why are we using Bengali ??? To show Unity, we Indians have different languages, but when comes to National Anthem, we sing in one Language to show Unity... Similarly Arabic has no relevance and it is not the Great language.. But to show the Unity of One God, One Islam we follow Arabic.. Hope you understand...
RE:Why non-arabs embrace/follow Islam?
by Anand Iyer on May 16, 2007 11:10 AM Permalink
Dear Ibrahim Sheikh, U r not able to logically refute my points. Your frustration in not being able to do so is reflected in your calling me a hindu fanatic. Yesterday when u found my msg to your liking on Pakistani blasts-u called me "a true follower of Rama". Then u don't like my msg today, u call me a "hindu fanatic". Inspite of your abuse, I still think u r a nice person. I have the following suggestions: 1.Don't take extreme views on both things that u like and things that u dont like- as I see u doing. This will hurt your progress. (Yesterday I was "true follower of Rama" and today u abuse me as "a hindu fanatic"). 2.I have presented facts(verses from Quran). U should present facts to refute facts not abuses. 3. Your comparison between "National Anthem" and "Quran" is not proper. Show me anything in National Anthem which says that it is maent for Bengalis . R there any verses in national anthem like Quran? 4.Develop logical reasoning for your own good. Stop abusing people and calling people names. 5. Yesterday I flashed certain points from Giat to those who were happy at deaths in Pakistan. I am flashing them again to u for your benefit.Develop these qualities mentioned in Gita: 1.non-violence in thought , word and deeds; 2.truthfulness and geniality of speech; 3.Compassion towards all 4. Bearing enmity towards none. Read 16th Chapter of Gita to develop a better personality. May God bless u.
RE:Why non-arabs embrace/follow Islam?
by Ibrahim Sheik on May 16, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
Are you the same Guy,,, I am surprised about your change in Character in a single day... I have given references in the Koran, which tells that
There are a thousand Times in Koran, to whom the Koran is: Even in the opening few pages of Koran, it is clearly stated that,
1) Koran is for the People of the World...
This line is repeated many times in the Book... It is not a Book only for Muslims, Not only for Arabs but for the entire Human Beings, which includes Hypocrites like you.. Read Koran, the Final Message for People of the World, from the Creator... If not, live Blind and when you die, you will immediately know the TRUTH.... In a Nutshell there is no relevance of Language in Koran...
