It is a welcome decision by the seasoned politician Dr.Karunanidhi.If both of them could not maintain a cordial relationship they should part ways insted of remaining togather amidst a sea of difference among them cheating the general public.Tamilnadu C.M.has left the ball in Dr.Ramados's court now by his announcement that he is not going to object PMK continuing in the UPA Government.The wild speculation of Ramadoss immediatly supporting Jeyalalitha is not possible becuase of this.If he goes and knocks the great doors of poes garden Ramdoss has to leave the UPA before that Otherwise he will be left alone. He has lost Viruthachalam constituency which is a PMK Stronghold to Vijayakanth.So, Ramadoss is in problem now for which he himself is the cause.Pride goes before fall.
Don't worry! In polit(r)ic(k)s there are no permanent bed fellows. Elections are round the corner. Hence realignment of forces is bound to occur since every party will make a Strength/ Weakness/Opportunities/Threats (SWOT) analysis of their own party as well as their bed fellows. KK must have felt that PMK will be a liability and hence deserted the party. Do not forget that he came out of Vajpayee govt before elections.
RE:PMK & DMK Part Ways
by SK2007 on Jun 17, 2008 10:27 PM Permalink
PMK is a 'KEEP" and Congress is a "Wife" for 5 years. DMK can afford to snap ties with "Keep" bt not with "Wife." DMK has been using "Keep" whenever required or just for pleasure. But "Wife" has its status at home. If he antogonises Wife, the marriage will collapse, for which he is not ready at least at this age. Sure he will not get a brideromm at this age.!
One lunatic expelling another lunatic. When will the people of tamilnadu relaize this beggar is looting them? Crores of money made and now bring all the family members to protect the wealth amassed from the CM post.
RE:Lunatic politicians
by sanjoy satpathy on Jun 17, 2008 10:03 PM Permalink
Mr.Anand is really bold enough to have said this.We need plenty of such people in our country or India becomes a country of Dynasty rule in disguise.
RE:RE:Lunatic politicians
by Vivek Sharma on Jun 17, 2008 11:14 PM Permalink
Hello dear friend Satpathy, Mr.Anand is not bold, he is biased, he could not see dynasty rule by Biju Patnaik, dynasty rule by Deva Gowda, dynasty rule by Bal Thackery, dynasty rule Chotala, dynasty rule by Naidu, then the Great dynasty rule by the Gandhi family.
RE:Lunatic politicians
by siva kumar on Jun 17, 2008 09:32 PM Permalink
In India all states and all parties have the same qualities and by singling out Tamil Nadu alone you people display your poor understanding of politicians of other states..
RE:Lunatic politicians
by Ezhil Maran on Jun 17, 2008 09:38 PM Permalink
Friend, Of all the politicians, these guys are the worst. Karunanidhi and the DMK plundered and terrorized the people. It was for that reason, he got thrown out and remained in the wilderness for 13 years, when MGR held sway. It is a pity that MGR is no more. If he had been alive, Karunanidhi and the DMK would have been reduced to insignificance by now. The PMK is also shameless as they have shown by switching their allegiance to the highest bidder. Nothing to choose between the two.
RE:Lunatic politicians
by abcdabcd on Jun 17, 2008 09:53 PM Permalink
Dont forget the Joint Devegowda and Sons (JDS) in Karnataka! hundreds of crores looted with the pseudo tag "son of soil". It is actually correct...he has gobbled so much land...son of soil isnt wrong
RE:Lunatic politicians
by Krishnan Hariharan on Jun 17, 2008 09:53 PM Permalink
We really miss a charismatic and flamboyant, compassionate leader like MGR. I am a fan of that man... his charity is prodigal, his love for people and respect for his mother unmatched, he introduced the Midday Meals Scheme encouraging poor children to go to school.. MGR lives in the hearts of millions of Tamil people even to this day. God Bless him wherever he is now.... where are the people like him who rule by love and command respect?
RE:Lunatic politicians
by Mathivanan Mathi on Jun 17, 2008 10:27 PM Permalink
I THINK U R SETTLER IN TAMILNADU FROM KERALA LIKE MGR. GO & STUDY THE TAMILNADU POLITICS HISTORY BEFORE U WRITE.
RE:Lunatic politicians
by Krishnan Hariharan on Jun 18, 2008 02:38 AM Permalink
All are settlers some time or other, only the trees have already been there always... anyway its not worth settling down in *muck* filled madras anymore! there is no water, women cannot walk in the streets freely (pretty women i mean), can somebody explain Dravidian *culture* to me... what it was, what it currently is and what it will be? these are the Nut cases that started the division from India and spread the anti-patriotic viruses... many of these "Dravidians" of today forgot their great and Godly ancestors in Valluvan, Andal, Appar, Sundarar, Agathiyar and Thirumoolan and are dancing merrily in *UNKNOWN* ideologies. Ok i gather Peter and Mohammed look like Tamil to you? Whom are u trying to fool? I think you guys are fooling yourself. After forgetting God, you are forgetting yourself. The result will be catastrophic for you and everyone around you. "Aravaazhi Andanar Thaal sernthaar kallaal Pira Vaazhi neenthal Arithu", don't forget the good people when u dance as long as you dance. Life is short, nobody is permanent, life it will in love and respect. Stop your ugly dance of delirium and work and serve for the country! The past can be neither repaired, nor overcome... the future will be determined by what we do now... Dravidian ideology will not be good for the country... it will enslave it in more hate and violence... people are struggling to eke out a living... why not serve them EQUALLY instead of beating your broken drum??
RE:Lunatic politicians
by balu on Jun 18, 2008 05:05 AM Permalink
mr hari iyer is aryan ideology good for the contry.muslim invaded india beocs of your caste system.the aryan idelogy in north have more violence than south(bihar and up)aryans in germany have done horrible crime that mankind have ever witnessed.
RE:Lunatic politicians
by BALA R on Jun 17, 2008 10:32 PM Permalink
Krishnan Hariharan-Sorry to correct you. Mid day meal scheme was introduced by Shri.K. Kamaraj way back in 60s. MGR relaxed liquor distribution, took money from poor workers and distributed to poor in mid day meal scheme where most of his high flying fans worked to commit fraud and earn lakhs of rupees those days. His Ramavaram garden was famous for inviting disgruntled politicians and were treated with tools and weapons! He planned from 1943 and cheated public till he died. he had a commanding majority in Assembley and yet could not introduce quota for economically backward class. he tried couple of times and many of his assembley mates threatened him! There are many assessment years he cheated income tax department! He couldn't speak still he continued as CM and ruined Tamil Nadu. He brought to fore a most incompetant and corrupt person (Jayalailatha) to center stage of politics. It is also widely spoken that early days he attacked his cinema friend Ganapathi bhatt and stole his wife Janaki to marry! there are several cinema personalities who were ruined by him due to personal vengence, for example Chandra Babu, Kuladeivam rajagopal etc. he wanted to team with Rathi Agnihotri as hero for which she refused, a biig blow for him and thereafter he never could dictate cine field! He was too good at getting hefty bribes in suit case thus introduced suitcase culture in TN/India!
RE:Lunatic politicians
by Krishnan Hariharan on Jun 18, 2008 02:48 AM Permalink
unnecessary monologue for my small mistake of telling MGR started Mid-day meals scheme... think you forgot to eat, and that caused the frustration! i like MGR very much, so what? i like so many things? u want me to give up these things just because u say it? who the hell are u, God? first u should prove my logic is wrong... then i will think about accepting what u feel is the right thing i should do.... i have FREEDOM of expression as much as you have ... may be even more! 90% of the so called Tamil Dravidians today can't even pronounce the "ZHA" in Pazham? These are the guys who don't even pay respect to Sage Agasthya who gave them the language... sick people! They will get what they deserve... misery and more misery only, born out of their own UNGODLINESS and wretchedness! I was born in Chennai, I challenge someone in this forum to defeat me in my thoughts about God, about Shiva, about Muruga, about holiness and about Aram (Dharma) ... any Sharmas, Balas, Mathivanans who are prepared for an argument with me? Let us see!
RE:Lunatic politicians
by kskumar on Jun 17, 2008 10:47 PM Permalink
You would have preferred Karunanidhi? Actually the rot started when the DMK came to power in 1967. The idiots in Virudhunagar defeated K Kamaraj and instead elected a DMK man in his place. The results are there for all to see.
You seem to have a hatred for MGR. You are entitled to your views, but much of your charges are factually incorrect. It was he who actually increased OBC reservation from 31% to 50%. It was Karunanidhi who relaxed the liquor policy during his tenure and introduced liquor to a whole generation of people by opening arrack shops. Your other charges are only vague and general.
Not that I am a fan of MGR, but anyday I would have preferred him to the present CM who doesn't have any redeeming qualities. MGR was a generous man and helped many people. Karunanidhi is generous only to his own family.
RE:RE:Lunatic politicians
by Vivek Sharma on Jun 17, 2008 11:08 PM Permalink
Well said BALAR for this Kumars and Hariharans. They are very biased fellows always carry hatret in their heart to Dravidian people. The so called MGR was so coward, he could not find other name for his party. He in order to cheat the people of Tamil Nadu carried the name of a Dravidian Party.
RE:Lunatic politicians
by Vivek Sharma on Jun 17, 2008 10:47 PM Permalink
Yes MGR is charismatic because he belonged to a brahmin family and if the same fellow belonged to any backward caste, then he is lunatic and bringing dynasty rule. Why do not you guys say this Gandhi family, is it not dynasty?. You guys have a problem of selective amnesia. In India irrespective of any state or centre, all politicians are bringing their family mebers only. Why to say this, even if you Mr.Anad and Krishnan Hariharan come to poltics, you will also do the same thing. Then you mentioned about the immortal MGR, he did not rule Tamil Nadu for 13 years, he ruined Tamil Nadu for 13 years. God blessed him a lot that is why he died long back when his contemperary Dr.Kalaignar still leading a healthy life. All you brahmin guys can never appreciate others if they are more clever than you. That is the basic problem with you guys.
MGR acted all along his real life anf real real. The poor people in Tamil Nadu good not understand his cleverness, He was a coward fellow who could not show his bald head to the people of Tamil Nadu. I have never seen such a coward in my life. He acted, acted, acted....... and did it till was put in his grave. Even there also he might be acting, I do not know what role he has chosen.
So you very inteligent guys forget about your false propaganta, no takers now-a-days. If this is said 30 years back, people will accept, but you guys are too late to born.
RE:RE:Lunatic politicians
by rajesh reddy on Jun 18, 2008 07:59 AM Permalink
Helo Vivek or Sharma...who do you think you are??? Cut the story who Ruled and ruling now??? Meant to say regardless of their community,since we young generations are talking to deroot allt eh CASTE problems in India,then why ?? our Honest guy doen't know what need to be discussed???
Yes M.G.R is a Delicate Baby to who never ever saved anything for himself and successors apart from his Hard earnings in Cinema Industry.
Rather cheating people he had stolen all the Poor peoples Heart,being an Actor you can't control when you got lot of People Love you.
Moreover he never brought in his own Family people to Rule over( Exploit Us to until we go the Hit the Street)Tamil nadu covering a Shield TAMIL TAMIL..without GOD from where you got TAMIL(this is for those who believe in tamil Gods)
The beauty part how come a normal person like Karuna could reach Chennai without any publicity??? So to be in Limelight yopu all required Cinema Media,but after taking the POwer you all yell now as if he strugglwed like Gandhi ji and fought lot of Freedom Fights..How cna you imagine such things by urself ??/ sorry you got to be Practical and understand no one can reach the limelight by yelling for welfare of TAMIL, if so then many of our College Professors turned to be Politicians by now.
So stop talking in that way,put a table what Karuna did so far to tamilnadu and what M.G.R did for the same...
M.G.R never brought his own family every month to the Party, he never ever did a Com
RE:Lunatic politicians
by kskumar on Jun 17, 2008 10:35 PM Permalink
You only have to look at the regime of the DMK during 1969-74 when political opponents were murdered. They started the famous "Muster Roll" scam which was probably the first organized scam in TN. They even tried to kill Indira Gandhi because she had dismissed the DMK Govt in 1974. Why else were Karunanidhi and the DMK kicked out within 6 years and left to rot for 13 years? He is in power now by default because Jayalalitha does not have the charisma or sagacity of MGR.
There are many more things, but I don't want to waste my time in details. I know you are a DMK supporter Mr.Dinesh, but the facts don't cease to exist because they are ignored.
RE:RE:Lunatic politicians
by Vivek Sharma on Jun 17, 2008 10:59 PM Permalink
Hello Mr.Kumar, why don't you tell about the Iron Lady of the Universe Dr.Jayalalithaa one who believe not in herself and belives in her close friend Sasi and other gods and godess for all her corruptions.
You will have so much to say about the barve lady, but everbody knows the truth that is why you not have time,ortherwise you will plendy of time.
This is the high time that both Dravidian parties should desert him. Let him contest the elections alone. After a couple of elections, his party will be a letter-pad party. It's very clear that he was losing ground in vanniyar belt. I hope ADMK too won't be interested in PMK as they've become more unreliable now. Since PMK has been thrown out of DMK alliance it puts PMK no where to bargain something with ADMK.
A few months back one of the tamil magazines reported that Jayalalitha confirmed Karunanidhi thro' Vijay Mallaya that she wont be interested in PMK even if he's thrown out of DMK. I dont know how it's going to turn-out now.
Both are birds of same feather.PMK is the most casitest pary born out of violence and corruption.He advocates only Tamil and indulges in english bashing. Whereas his own kith and kin in are put in the best reputed english medium educational institutions .He is a hypcrite having two yard sticks one to measure for him self and the rest for others. He is totally anti developmental like Gowde in Karnataka. In Tamil Nadu all parties are having one point program of looting.Still DMK is doing its best in improving the infra structure facilities of Tamil nadu when the others were not doing any thing.BJP should not attempt to rope in this party into their fold as they are the betrayers of the worst type.RN
RE:Tamil nadu politics
by Kundala Kesi on Jun 17, 2008 10:01 PM Permalink
Please you all try to understand the importance of studying in Mother Tongue. There is nothing wrong in advocating studying in Mother Tongue, But all the dravidian parties failed to take concrete steps in promoting Tamil as a Modern Language. They stopped with Thiruvalluvar and Tholkappaiar, Thats all. Only in rural areas mainly in Government Schools , Tamil Medium is taken for studying in all subjects. But in Urban areas , Tamil is completely prohibited even in speaking. There is heavy punishment for speaking in Tamil in most of the schools in Chennai. Without changing the mindset of most of the people, just by blaming them for every thing cannot solve the purpose.
RE:Tamil nadu politics
by rajagopalan nadimuthu on Jun 17, 2008 10:25 PM Permalink
Then why donot study their children in Tamil medium schools?.A preacher should practice first before preach for others.Why should they advocate banning of english ?.By not learning hindi do you know as how much hardship we face in getting jobs in North. Those guys want others not progress and prosper.They want them to stay in abject povrety to work as their hench men.Some can be fooled some times but all cannot be fooleed all times.RN
RE:Tamil nadu politics
by Calspadeaspade on Jun 17, 2008 10:43 PM Permalink
BUt all the politicians are education their children in the best English medium schools while advocationg local vernacular for common man. In India IAS and IPS (which are Govt held exams) weightage for English skills is very high. So leaders children will be better tha others. Most of the subject books are written in West in English. How can we abolish english?
RE:RE:Tamil nadu politics
by Calspadeaspade on Jun 17, 2008 10:45 PM Permalink
Mr. Kudal Kesi , have you atudied all your subjects in your mother tongue , not knowing English? Answer this first before advocating it to others.
RE:Tamil nadu politics
by Kundala Kesi on Jun 17, 2008 11:30 PM Permalink
Yes ., Absolutely. I studied all my subjects in Tamil only, I hail from a small village in rural Tamilnadu and I walked 6 Kms to attend School every day. At present I am working as Scientist in one of the leading Research institution in our country with PhD and Post doctoral work in Germany.
RE:Tamil nadu politics
by STE on Jun 18, 2008 03:15 AM Permalink
Mr.KundalaKesi, I trust your words and I salute you. But please understand that India is a vast diverse country and please with different language will settle in different regions. I hail from Madurai (so as my 100 previous generations) and we still speak saurashtra as mother tongue. The only way to propogate good tamil is through competition and awarding the achievers rightfully. You cannot force anyone to study science in Tamil. I guess the TN government has done good so far as the language development is concerned, but forcing to learn only Tamil will just develop hatred, increase the division among Indians.
RE:Tamil nadu politics
by shubha krishnamurthy on Jun 17, 2008 09:32 PM Permalink
yes. u r absolutely right. Both Ramadoss and anbumani have studied MBBS and propogating tamil. First they should have studied Indian medicine before preaching others.
there is a saying when the ship starts sinking the rats desert first.
Looks like most of the UPA allies have by now realised that the MMS-Sonia ship is indeed sinking. Well about the PMK...What else it will allign with Aamma Jayalalitha and AIADMK and with MDMK will sweep the polls against DMK and then allign with NDA and BJP. Simple matematical calculations nothing complex here.
Dont get emotional..Ramadass had done the same twist earlier with both DMK amd ADMK. Both these parties are shameless to fall prey and be a beneficiary.. The same DMK will accept Ramadass in its team for the Assembly elections..because everyone wants to stay in power..WAIT N WATCH...
This man rama das is a big gangster.More like the north korean president kim jong il.He runs a mon gang who attack the public and get money from them. He wanted to be the CM of Pondicherry but God saved Pondicherry from this villain. I have nothing against his caste,but he is just using the name of caste to make money for himself
