No country in the world will allow foreigners like Nepalese to create a seperate state. Do the Indians living in Nepal can demand a seperate state??? Most of these Nepalese came to India after 1950 Indo-Nepal Treaty; they are not Indian by any means. Burma and Sri Lanka had expelled Indians who used to live there for 150 years. Similarly India must expell all Nepalese, otherwise they will take over North Bengal, Kumaun, Terai in Uttar Pradesh-Uttarachal, Garwal & Kangra in Himachal Pradesh, & Sikkim which they had occupied in early 19th century until they were driven out by the British and Ranjit Singh.
Re: Nepalese should go back to Nepal.
by Guest on Jan 05, 2009 09:28 PM Permalink
Kumaun and Gadwal everything u mentioned were the part of Nepal before British took it from Nepal. So when British returned from India they should have been returned back to Nepal. Bangladesh was since eternity part of India until it became the part of pakistan and separated itself in 1970's. Govt of Nepal doesn't want any tussle with India so it is not asking its land back. It is neither supporting the Gorkhaland move or similar. India on the other hand allowed the terrorists from Nepal i.e. Maoists previously and other Terai outfits now for waging a war in Nepal.
RE:Nepalese should go back to Nepal.
by grt on Jun 15, 2008 01:12 AM Permalink
Gorkaland and it capital Darjeeling never speaks Bengali. Indian states were divided on linguistic basic, hence gorkaland cannot be part of west bengal.
Second, Bengalis has got their own country called Bangladesh. Bengalis can go to their home country bangladesh and settle there.
Let us merge west bengal with Assam, Bihar, Orissa before bengal is islamised by Bengalis. And more importantly before communist flag of china is hoisted in west bengal, we indians need to do that.
RE:Nepalese should go back to Nepal.
by Biren Mukherjee on Jun 15, 2008 06:28 AM Permalink
The reason you are able to speak out is because of those freedom fighters who gave us the relief from colonial oppression. However, it was never realized that this freedom will create havoc in understanding what this freedom was meant for-breeding the ground for next generation looters? Propagating the regional case in lieu of countries development? Or creating a society which will keep on making unrest and injustice towards others-the racist. Look India is not run by you or those region-backed crooks who wanted to drive non-marathis out from Mumbai. If today Mumbai stands on its own (with million slum dwellers?) it is because of the non-marathis whom you call outsiders. At least non-marathis are not lazy bums! No matter whatever you do to create unrest in the society, it will be pounded heavily by the majority of people. And to my knowledge you belong to a group who will be vanished in future like the way we diminished most bugs.
Re: RE:Nepalese should go back to Nepal.
by Guest on Jan 05, 2009 09:30 PM Permalink
Gorkhas and Nepali still are two different words, what do u say about Bangladeshis, can they be Indian?
RE:Nepalese should go back to Nepal.
by kumar on Jun 14, 2008 07:07 PM Permalink
Dipak Bose, don' think like a british. Some of the areas which is part of India now, has always been part of Nepal until the British took it away from the country of Nepal. The people are Nepalease by descent but not Nepalease by Citizenship. Their ancestors come from that land, hence they have every right to demand what they do.
If your argument is correct, then please go to Bangladesh because Bengalis have a country there. They shouldn't have a separate state in India.
RE:Nepalese should go back to Nepal.
by Biren Mukherjee on Jun 14, 2008 11:15 PM Permalink
Your anti-Bengali sentiment is very clearly manifested in your writing. You have brought irrelevant logics to get support for your imagination. Like you said British occupied Nepal and blablabla...Read the history, Indian civilizations were established and well pushed beyond the borders even when Muslims intruded or when British came. In respect to what you said about Bengalis and Bangladesh, remember one thing, the land will go in the later case as well. People like you are born with mental defects. The matter you learnt from your education and hereditary regional sentiment can only support to sever India into pieces.
All the shouts of CPM & COngress about not allowing a separate Gorkhaland,will go down the drain,as they had, before creation of Jharkhand,Chattisgarh,Uttarakhand and Meghalaya among others.India,whether we like ot or not, will get fragmented into tiny compartments,at times, the size of a town or a village;and each of those 'states'will be ruled by "Chief Ministers" who would be nothing but the fudal landlords or kings as they existed prior to British Raj.In the 2nd phase,these tiny "states"will start fighting among themselves,each one asking for independence.That would be the end of Indian Union & CPM,Congress,BJP & the rest of it, will vanish in thin air.
RE:Then there will be Gorkhaland
by Vikram on Jun 14, 2008 06:05 PM Permalink
It is better to dissolve Indian union and form states on the basis of linguistic affiliations like in Europe(German, French, Spanish, Hungarian etc.) which would be more easy to govern and there will be faster development. Why should regions in south and west pay for apathy and ineptitude of others(bihar, bengal, etc.). The idea of Indian nation is one of the biggest sham on earth when each of the states can be seen as nations in themselves when compared to rest of the world.
RE:Then there will be Gorkhaland
by Biren Mukherjee on Jun 15, 2008 06:25 AM Permalink
The reason you are able to speak out is because of those freedom fighters who gave us the relief from colonial oppression. However, it was never realized that this freedom will create havoc in understanding what this freedom was meant for-breeding the ground for next generation looters? Propagating the regional case in lieu of countries development? Or creating a society which will keep on making unrest and injustice towards others-the racist. Look India is not run by you or those region-backed crooks who wanted to drive non-marathis out from Mumbai. If today Mumbai stands on its own (with million slum dwellers?) it is because of the non-marathis whom you call outsiders. At least non-marathis are not lazy bums! No matter whatever you do to create unrest in the society, it will be pounded heavily by the majority of people. And to my knowledge you belong to a group who will be vanished in future like the way we diminished most bugs.
RE:Then there will be Gorkhaland
by Dipak Bose on Jun 15, 2008 02:45 PM Permalink
You go back to Nepal. You are a Nepalese Foreigner. You have no right to talk about Bengalis. You are not Indian, so just shut up and go back to Nepal.
RE:RE:Then there will be Gorkhaland
by Biren Mukherjee on Jun 15, 2008 06:27 AM Permalink
The reason you are able to speak out is because of those freedom fighters who gave us the relief from colonial oppression. However, it was never realized that this freedom will create havoc in understanding what this freedom was meant for-breeding the ground for next generation looters? Propagating the regional case in lieu of countries development? Or creating a society which will keep on making unrest and injustice towards others-the racist. Look India is not run by you or those region-backed crooks who wanted to drive non-marathis out from Mumbai. If today Mumbai stands on its own (with million slum dwellers?) it is because of the non-marathis whom you call outsiders. At least non-marathis are not lazy bums! No matter whatever you do to create unrest in the society, it will be pounded heavily by the majority of people. And to my knowledge you belong to a group who will be vanished in future like the way we diminished most bugs.
RE:RE:Then there will be Gorkhaland
by Biren Mukherjee on Jun 14, 2008 11:21 PM Permalink
Woh you brought Bihar and Bengal on the same line.Thats not a problem as I am proud knowing that the first light of Education came from our region.The Great Nalanda...we educated well ahead of you...I wonder if you are educated till date...CRAP
RE:Then there will be Gorkhaland
by Biren Mukherjee on Jun 14, 2008 11:20 PM Permalink
Woh you brought Bihar and Bengal on the same line.Thats not a problem as I am proud knowing that the first light of Education came from our region.The Great Nalanda...we educated well ahead of you...I wonder if you are educated till date...CRAP
can some1 pls tell me, how can some1 in his sanity vote for communist party ? wt do u think of bongs in west bengal n other states ? r they really so dumb ? i can understand congress to an extent, but commis ?
RE:hi
by S on Jun 14, 2008 05:40 PM Permalink
Dude, what does Bongs got to do with commis? Commis do not get half of the votes in Bengal, yet they rule by a maze of coalitions and under hand dealings, in cohort with congress most of the times. Do not generalize and spread racial tension. Bongs are one of the best races on earth. India is lucky to have them. The first commi govt was in Kerala, keep that in mind.
RE:hi
by ashish on Jun 15, 2008 02:59 AM Permalink
it is because the definition of sanity for idiots and maniachs like you are different. A people from a mental asylum like you always thinks others are mad where as you yourself mad. You got it?
Those who vote for CPM can not also think how one can vote for BJP who kills thousands in the name of Ram janmabhumi, in the name of some God who never exists. We always think only uneducated and illiterate people can make Ram as agenda and can only uneducated people can create God from a historical character.
For us, the God exists only in the dictionary of fools because it is not sceintific. Will u understand?
i think small states get more autonomy for development. USA has 50 states ..... so wts wrong if india has 40 ? its abt development guys, not abt political borders
RE:RE:hi
by Dipak Bose on Jun 14, 2008 05:48 PM Permalink
No country in the world will allow foreigners like Nepalese to create a seperate state. Do the Indians living in Nepal can demand a seperate state???
RE:hi
by kumar on Jun 14, 2008 07:09 PM Permalink
No country in the world will allow foreigners like Bengalis to create a seperate state. They have Bangladesh already.
RE:hi
by aoneall on Jun 14, 2008 05:46 PM Permalink
Smaller states may be a good idea but what should be the basis to create smaller states? The real problem starts here!
all this talk of seperate state for a unviable region like darjeeling, is due to the hanging on to power by a single party the commies of bengal. they rule by hook or crook, nore of crook. so the resulting discontennt spills over as demand for seperate state! the more the commies remain, the more such problems will arise, and the bengali commies can never brush them under the carpet! why dont they organise bandh in darjeeling, send their rabble red army to recapture the area from the gorkas?
RE:sum and subxtance is
by Dipak Bose on Jun 14, 2008 05:48 PM Permalink
No country in the world will allow foreigners like Nepalese to create a seperate state. Do the Indians living in Nepal can demand a seperate state???
RE:sum and subxtance is
by S on Jun 14, 2008 05:43 PM Permalink
Look, the Gorkhas are different ethincally than the Bengalis. Your theory of one party rule is not correct, as that does not explain the creation of Jharkhand, Uttaranchal and Chattisgarh. You should read some current affairs first before talking, and then it will make more sense.
I FULLY ENDORSE THE VIEW OF SUJOY. EVERY BODY HAS A RIGHT TO SPEAK BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT SHOULD VILOATE THE RULE OF DECORUM AND DECIENCY. WE CAN NOT PASS ANY NASTY COMMENT AGAINST ANY POLITICAL PARTY OR POLITICAL PERSONAL. ANGSHUMAN
REDIFF SHOULD IMMEDIATELY STOP IDIOTIC & UNREALISTIC COMMENTS MADE BY SOME USELESS FOOLS WHO HAVE NOTHING TO DO BUT CRITICISE OTHERS. THESE COMMENTS DEFINITELY HURTS. REDIFF BEING A PARTY TO FLASH SUCH MESSAGES , LEGAL ACTION CAN BE INITIATED AGAINST THEM. REDIFF SHOULD APOLOGISE .
It need not be Gorkhaland but a separate state will be better like sikkim so that they may have their own say . First and foremost Pranab Mukherjee should not be a party to this discussion. They will never allow a separate state. These are the people who have spoiled the innocent Biharis and UPit's . These are ones who started free travel in trains and Biharis and UPit's have imbibed from them only. Even today a good section in W Bengal travel without tickets. W Bengal owes the centre by way of Ticketless travel something to the tune of Several thousand crores of rupees and by way of off target from Revenue collection nearly another several thousand crores and the centre has all along been duped. They called a Bandh and the next day centre has sanctioned nearly 5000 crores for rail transit from salt lake to Howrah. Pronab Mukherjee may be on congress Ticket but has been sent by left front from their own stronghold to get everything sanctioned at any cost W Bengal.
RE:Gorkhaland
by Dipak Bose on Jun 14, 2008 05:49 PM Permalink
No country in the world will allow foreigners like Nepalese to create a seperate state. Do the Indians living in Nepal can demand a seperate state???
RE:Gorkhaland
by Dipak Bose on Jun 14, 2008 06:11 PM Permalink
No country in the world will allow foreigners like Nepalese to create a seperate state. Do the Indians living in Nepal can demand a seperate state??? Most of these Nepalese came to India after 1950 Indo-Nepal Treaty; they are not Indian by any means. Burma and Sri Lanka had expelled Indians who used to live there for 150 years. Similarly India must expell all Nepalese, otherwise they will take over North Bengal, Kumaun, Terai in Uttar Pradesh-Uttarachal, Garwal & Kangra in Himachal Pradesh, & Sikkim which they had occupied in early 19th century until they were driven out by the British and Ranjit Singh.
