What bothers me more than anything else is the fact that our leaders (inspite of India's economic boom and brain power) act like "Chaprasis" in front of western leaders. Just click on a video of any UN meeting or international gathering.
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by Nostra Damus on Jul 31, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
That is because our babus and politicians have been trained to be servants of the west by our erstwhile British masters. This IAS, IFS system should have been removed right at independence.
Manmohan Singh thinks that every thing is Economics. He should be knowing that defence is also a subject of national interest and great need and which always comes first before the economics.
Congress goes with Bush and terrorism. Secularism and Democracy are the best ways to beat terrorism. Congress compromises with these things. Bush is the notorious criminal and he creates world terrorism.
RE:Congress goes with Bush and terrorism. Secularism and Democracy are the best ways to beat terrorism. Congress compromises with these things. Bush is the notorious criminal and he creates world terrorism.
by Nostra Damus on Jul 31, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
The most effective way to destroy democracy is to elect communists.
MMS loves the US and Bush. He does not recognise Bush is also going to deep well. Bush is thinking where to go. Bush definitely will fetch MMS with his sinking boat. Indian people see today Congress nakedness, thieves....
I am just amused at the intelligence of some Indians on this board who are saying (in whatever English they can muster)that let us promote this deal because Muslims are against it. Where do you people get your education from? Or perhaps its the lack of it that's speaking volumes about your disturbed psyche.
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by Agrawal on Jul 31, 2008 01:57 PM Permalink
This is result of the venom that the right wing parties like the BJP and affiliated organizations have spread in the society. Feel sorry for our friends who believe these parties and organizations. It's very unfortunate that these political parties poison our minds and win votes. They make it to power, they make money and we remain where we are. You can't even reason with these people. Even though I am a hindu, these fundamentalists would kill me too if I told them they are wrong.
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by ram manohar on Jul 31, 2008 02:07 PM Permalink
You talk about BJP.But then the when the deal fight was going on it was told by congress that there is nothing stopping nuclear test and hyde act does not apply.Though i am not a fan of BJP either congress is a bigger evil in the society.What does our so called PM have to say for this?
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by vinayak purohit on Jul 31, 2008 02:00 PM Permalink
mr nawaz we hindus have habit supporting anything which muslim oppose why not this.though hardly any muslim or hindu knows abt deal.IF ZAHEER KHAN PATHANS PLAY GOOD HINDU PLAYERS SHOULD BAD.this country is run religious fascists not by any political party.
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by starlee on Jul 31, 2008 02:01 PM Permalink
who is so stupid enough to think that muslims oppose nuclear deal ? they are obviously brainwashed my their leaders . Muslims (may be minority) dont oppose nuclear deal just because Mayawati said its anti muslim , Guys majority of muslims are still Indian in their heart . They understand being a muslim in India is much different than being a muslim in anyother countries because of India being a Hindu country is much tolerant that any other culture in the world. my only concern to my muslim brothers is that RESPECT THE CULTURE. Jai Hind
Let them US tell whatever Bush administration wants but ultimately we have to decide what we like and what we will not accept. Our people of india will decide. How he can say that we should not explode the nuclear if our neighbour is creating like Gujarat and Bangalore situation why our country should silent. We have start battle with vigorous manner and neighbour should decide whether they want to stay at world map or want to finish their identity. Enough is enough. We lost several innocent human lives. Americans also clear their mind one day there a battle with these imperialism attitude with India and other countries which they are doing for a long time we our Indians have enough patient to resist it but once we started attack it will never end till we win the battle. Take our father of the Nation MKGandhi. Keep in mind always. Moreover they also think that ourselves and neighbour china is world most populated country in the world and one day situation will come we both of start running towards your country and entire your sovereignty will be finish.
It does not mean that if India signed 123 agreement with hyde act, whatever and whenever they can amend their conditions according to their requirements. We are also development nations and we have enough brain compare to other western countries. I agree there is huge corruption and mismanagement in delivery systems but I am sure in the next 15-20 years all the problems will sought out in a easy manner. I am sure one India
RE:simulated environment
by galilio on Jul 31, 2008 01:26 PM Permalink
bomb not tested will be pizzz when used in war as need to test before put in stockpile.india is capable of doing test in simulated environment yes in pokeron it was same method of simulated operation.without testing,no use stockpiling bomb as if not exploded in wartime,govt will be hanged with shame.
This is a typical supplier's agreement where a supplier of a product / service / technology tells the buyer to abide by certain conditions failing which he will stop the supply. Perfectly fine! Some day if India feels they need to test, they can decide what to do about the Uranium supply from the NSG countries. Some day if India is able to build enough Thorium based plants, it can always walk away from this deal. Good sense on part of MMS.
RE:What's the harm with this condition?
by Vijay on Jul 31, 2008 01:20 PM Permalink
Yes. You are right. The Commies and the chaddi gang are regressive in their attitude. rather than building a stronger India, they want to build a mob frenzy. It's simple... when people question them on lack of development in India, they blame it all on Congress and when Congress wants to do some development work, they put spokes in the wheel. Not that Congress has done everything right. They have a dirty backyard too. However, they realized the importance of moving away from rhetoric to development and one appreciates MMS for his vision. Good show MMS!
RE:What's the harm with this condition?
by Agrawal on Jul 31, 2008 01:38 PM Permalink
Hmm.. you do have a point. I never thought it this way. I was always believing what the opposition had been saying. My company is on the verge of signing an agreement with a large European company where they will supply a particular technology to us. It's a 700 page agreement and now I am able to understand what you are saying. I guess I was wrong in believing the opposition parties.
RE:What's the harm with this condition?
by PKN on Jul 31, 2008 01:41 PM Permalink
Then why does India not sign the CTBT ? The nation could walk out of the CTBT also suffering the same consequences that we would suffer if we walked out of the N-deal !
RE:What's the harm with this condition?
by Agrawal on Jul 31, 2008 02:01 PM Permalink
If you want out of CTBT, there is a penalty on you. You cannot walk out of treaties. Whereas this is a supplier's agreement and either party is free to call it off if it bbecomes unbearable. This is NOT a treaty. This is a deal / agreement.
RE:What's the harm with this condition?
by Murugesan Venkatachalam on Jul 31, 2008 01:49 PM Permalink
I think this deal more than business deal it involves India's national security concerns..
RE:What's the harm with this condition?
by Jai Prakash Singh on Jul 31, 2008 02:02 PM Permalink
Then why not a national poll (of intellectuals at least) on this deal rather than a poll of foolish leaders who took crores and voted without knowing anything about the deal.
RE:What's the harm with this condition?
by Gopal on Aug 01, 2008 01:19 AM Permalink
Read the Reporter's page in rediff blog I am not against nuclear plants. Read both sides and take decision.
it has been really disappointing if this is true. it was so pathetic Rahul Gandhi gave speech over urgency of power generation through nuclear energy in the parliament and does not know even what is IAEA stands for? where r we leading? No one knows comprehensively what is this 123 agreement about? does not it come under RTI? it may not be otherwise surely few intelligent,scholar Indians would have come forward.
Moreover, a day before i was watching news at Sahara India and i was shocked to hear that this government has made a proposal to reward the family of terrorist who are being killed in encounters with our security, the same terrorist who kills our jawans and innocent Indians. if you happened to meet any Kashmiri Pandit do approach him and find out what had they gone through. Incidentally, i got a chance to had conversation with one of the Kashmiri Hindu family and listening to him was a shocking.
if riots on Gujarat is abominable, why not the act of coercing leaving Kasmiri Pandits is? media had hardly highlighted about it. the way Godhra riots has been aired and the way vociferously blacken the image of Mr. Modi, it was just to gain the popularity vote by media.
RE:Monarchy of Nehru - Congress
by vinayak purohit on Jul 31, 2008 01:26 PM Permalink
kashmiri pundits were removed by jagmohan not by kashmiris to communalize the issue.
RE:Monarchy of Nehru - Congress
by overblown on Jul 31, 2008 02:41 PM Permalink
mr purohit, we know you are a paki so just come out in the open instead of using a fake name. have you had milk from all your four moms??
RE:Monarchy of Nehru - Congress
by A P on Jul 31, 2008 02:10 PM Permalink
They were threatened and removed by kashmiri muslims themselves. my family and several of my relatives received such threats from local goons as well as announcements that all males leave from local mosques.
In your zeal for secularism, please do not distort the truth.
RE:Monarchy of Nehru - Congress
by vinayak purohit on Jul 31, 2008 03:09 PM Permalink
this is wrong i have hundreds of kashmiri friend governor jagmohan,a hindu nazi removed them to communalize the issue.some of them who were collaborating with indian administration were receiving threats.but this applies to muslims as well.all religious places of hindus are intact &they r welcome with open arms when they visit.all the guards of amarnath are muslims &yatris are also welcome as they add to their economy.hatred is sole properiety of small high caste hindus.all indiad are friend&brother.
RE:Monarchy of Nehru - Congress
by vinayak purohit on Jul 31, 2008 01:17 PM Permalink
most of the encounters are are staged just to rob poors that is why so called encouter specialist have become billionaire in no time.like vanjara dayanayek jasbir etc etc.list is very long.not only the families should be compensated but perpetuators must be hang like now one army major us armyis going to die for raping&killing of civilians.
