RE:My Prediction !
by Gopal on Jul 21, 2008 11:29 PM Permalink
Then they are doing a dis-service to the nation. Let them defeat the N-deal in the present form. The present govt should go. Let the next govt take a decision after listening to the people.
RE:My Prediction !
by Prakash Asrani on Jul 21, 2008 09:33 PM Permalink
If it does not happen the way you are predicting, hang a stone around your neck and jump in the nearest CHULLU BHAR PANI.
RE:My Prediction !
by mallaiah anchoori on Jul 21, 2008 10:16 PM Permalink
Mr Asrani!You should mind your language while you speak from a public forum like this.Every one has freedom to express his views in a polite and decent way.Just because you do not agree with Mr dipen d,it does not mean that you should hurl all abuses at him.Employing unparliamentary language only indicates lack of culture & civilisation.Your write up can as well be reported as "abuse".But I wanted to make you realise that what you did is not good & not befitting of a gentleman,the sort of whom are by & large the participants in the discussion board.Think for a while, how you feel if some one scolds you in a similar way. Yes,BJP may surprisingly abstain from voting also;the possibilities are not ruled out from the way it now speaks.It has started making an introspection of their role on the issue of N.Deal.It started feeling that if the govt wins,people think it is "inspite" of BJP & if the govt loses people blame "because" of BJP.In the circumstances & not to spoil its future prospects of winning at least,it may abstain from voting also.This,however,cannot be said with certainty since all parties are holding the cards very close to their chests.If govt falls,BJP can safely throw the blame on left parties & wash its hands though they are responsible for all the mess created upto now. Strange are the ways of the present day politics & their polytricks which are unpredictable.Each minute from now counts a lot in terms the possible change of mind by these dirty politicians.
RE:My Prediction !
by dipen d on Jul 21, 2008 09:40 PM Permalink
BJP is not gaining anything either of situation. If Govt survives then fight between Congress andtheir breakaway constituents will become more intense and typically MAYA & Mulayam. BJP can say see this is the internal fight of interest groups within UPA who always boost for fighting communal forces and their real face is this.
I think the BJP should have supported the deal in the first instance itself, which would have kept people like Mayavathi, Deve Gouda, etc at bay. There is nothing wrong in it. It would have been a good strategy for BJP to better their chances in the next elections. I am writing this despite the fact that I am a strong opponent of congress.
RE:BJP's support
by Sanjay on Jul 21, 2008 09:55 PM Permalink
To support this government is a sin of great proportion. I hope that such sins are not occurred by nationalistic person, who still have their sanity left.
Mayawati, is a thousand time better then an appointed PM, and Sonia any day, any time. What sins have we done that we got such a criminal government like the UPA.
RE:BJP's support
by Gopal on Jul 21, 2008 11:31 PM Permalink
We should not allow the present drama. Do not handle the N-deal as a casual way. It is the question of our freedom.
The Pokhran Nuclear tests were the exact opposit of the N-Deal. The "N-Deal" as everyone calls it is an extension to the Nuclear non-proliferation treaty. What IAEA is saying is that all countries should sign up for this treaty and pledge a non-use of the Nuke devices for the defense purpose. This, if done by India, Pakistan will also follow. China and other N-power countries have already committed. If N-Deal go through, it will mean that India will be able to use its atomic reserve (meant for defense) in the domestic energy use (that means better electricity, better irigation etc., and also good for the environment). However, there's always a catch - and the catch says that since all atomic research/production centers will become non-defense areas, IAEA will have 100% visibility into it. That way India will have no "secret weapon" if ever needed. I hope, and wish that no one ever needs that secret weapon. But, at the same time, what if Pakistan or Iran do not sign? Once IAEA knows all about India's nuclear reserves, it might as well end up on the Internet! Pokhran was against the non-proliferation treaty (and that's why India had to face senctions). N-Deal is for the non-proliferation treaty. Understood?
RE:Explained: Why BJP against the N-Deal
by p on Jul 21, 2008 09:47 PM Permalink
Why on earth will India use nuclear defense facilities for power generation? That is NOT MANDATED by IAEA. 'India will be able to' but WILL NOT use it. What is a 'nuclear reserve'? Ammo? mines? none of them are a secret, everybody knows India has nuclear weapon capability. Whats the big secret that willbe splashed on the internet?
RE:Explained: Why BJP against the N-Deal
by Sameer Bhagwat on Jul 21, 2008 09:55 PM Permalink
Helllo .. do you know where India keeps its nuclear missiles? Yes, everyone knows that India is an N-Power country - just like US, UK, China, Russia, Pakistan, Iran and N. Korea. But no one (except for the RAW, the PM and a few elite of the Indian millitary) really knows how much uranium we have, where we keep it and how long it takes us from the raw components to the long range nuke-head missiles. This is the part where IAEA comes to picture. Also, though it is not mandated to use the raw components of a nuclear device (uranium, plutonim and other heavy metals) for domestic purpose. But that's the whole point. If everyone agrees, the govt can decide on freeing up these resources for the betterment of the nation. There is no "deal" in the Nuke-deal, except the fact that India can become more energy independent and flurish if everything goes well.
RE:Explained: Why BJP against the N-Deal
by wise guru on Jul 21, 2008 10:08 PM Permalink
mr p , if i told you i had three dagers, 6 knives small size, 2 big size, one khukri and two small pistols exatly in my kit you would always prepare yourself to counter me under any circumstances. But if i told i had knives , daggers, khukri ,pistols etc, etc,. you slightly unware of my strengths. Now if i told you i have knives, daggers, khukris,pistols and some one informed you i had ak47 also..the suspence of me builds up further... defence is more strategic.weapons are for defence and not attack.suspence is the greatence strength in all these scenario.
Now we all know our neighbours.can we expose ourselves and beg the us at adverse situation.
we need to think more, our neighbours dont keep up their words.can we be such a simpleton!
RE:bimaru scoundrels
by Human Menagerie on Jul 21, 2008 09:29 PM Permalink
you havent actually spit on their faces, nor will you..what is the point of saying so? I spit on your face
RE:bimaru scoundrels
by Human Menagerie on Jul 21, 2008 09:39 PM Permalink
yeah we can name the new country "IdliStan", or "SambarGarh" or "DosaVadaStan"
RE:bimaru scoundrels
by Rahul on Jul 21, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink
I dont want to argue with a low class bimaru scumbag like you. Your mother washes my toilet and I throw money at her face and she picks it up like the cheap slave she is. hahaha It must suck to be worthless and spit upon in your own country, you bimaru scum.
RE:bimaru scoundrels
by Sameer Bhagwat on Jul 21, 2008 09:49 PM Permalink
The standard South-Indian "argument". If nothing works, start with cursing. If that does not work, start with the mother. If even that does not work, use some non-english (may be tamil) words that no one can understand. What is this "bimaru" by the way? A popular side dish in AP or Tamilnadu? You should have sided with the Nawab of Hydrabad in 1947 when you had your chance. Sorry, now you are a part of India ... scuk it up.
RE:bimaru scoundrels
by Rahul on Jul 21, 2008 09:59 PM Permalink
Are you bimarus even capable of arguing ? I have been cursing you from my first post in case you still didnt get it. And bimaru stands for the cheapest, low class , sub human scum there is. It means if you find a bimaru, you stay as far away as you can as the person might have the most contagious,disgusting disease.
RE:RE:bimaru scoundrels
by warren pinto on Jul 21, 2008 09:54 PM Permalink
Hi Rahul,
I'm a south Indian as well.And I'm proud of it. Please don't make me feel ashamed of it by passing such rediculous and communal comments and produly proclaiming that you're South Indian. This is the time our whole nation has to stand together...so Sameer and Rahul,let's just drop this little fight and stay united....
RE:bimaru scoundrels
by Rahul on Jul 21, 2008 09:31 PM Permalink
They should. South will progress much faster without these corrupt sub human bimaru scum. I hate these people really. They are good only to clean my toilets and sweep the roads. Dirty scavengers.
RE:bimaru scoundrels
by Indo Maratha on Jul 21, 2008 10:02 PM Permalink
Buddy, I am not against northies but today Hindus are still there because of southies. South Indians have many regiments in army - maratha regiment, madras engineers, and many. Just because they work and dont advertise you dont think they cannot fight.
Remember the vijayanagar empire and maratha empires were lead by southies. learn to respect them and spit in the sky so that it may fall on your face and instead of thinking of how to rape a foreigner in goa / delhi, you will start thinking about your career
RE:bimaru scoundrels
by Tomappan on Jul 21, 2008 10:36 PM Permalink
In Kerala people eat chicken and fish. Now a days Sambar and rasam are drinked by North Indian People at Indian Coffee House situated at north. And North Indians fight for sambar and rasam if they get less quantity in hotels.
The Congress could not fight the inflation and there is a gross public discontent. They need to fight for some cause, so be it ... the N-Deal... If they go down fighting for a cause they can bank on some sympathy vote at least .... the Communists have supported the Cong for 4 yrs & more and they need to go back to Kerala, WB & Tripura and fight their main opposition... who... the Cong...so they needed to have a reason... the N-Deal... the BJP anyways wanted the Govt. out and hence why not the N-Deal... the SP needed to control Mayawati's progress... and Mayawati needs to control CBI....so the deal... & lastly there are the other MPs who need to encash on such turmoil & deals :)... But who does not need such deals are the common people like u & me....
The debate on the Trust Vote is continuing in the Parliament. So many MPs spoke, ignorance was evident and all pervasive. How could law makers be so ignorant of the basic facts. They trooped into the House only to find fault with the Govt. They reeled out the failures of the Govt during the past four years without any supportive evidences. Advani too was casual in his sarcastic approach to the debate was generalising so many issues. On the suicide of farmers, he wanted the Govt to come out with the achievement in the agriculture field. On the issue of Nuclear deal, incidentally started by his party, Advani said he will renegotiate if voted to power.He was not against any strategic relationship with US but not in the present form. He chided that nuclear energy would not be sufficient enough to meet the domestic needs forgetting it was only supplemental to the conventional and non-conventional sources of energy in the country. These sources would become scares with the passage of time,then alternate source would have to be found out.Nucelar energy is the best bet and what better time it would require to start it. He alleged that there was total sell out as the deal was not signed as equals forgetting that it was Vajpayee who went to UN and promised not to have Phokran III. How conveniently these BJPs forget their mistakes. Vajpayee was not there but would appear tomorrow to cast his vote.He may be listening to the debate.India need nuke energy,there was unanimity among members.
RE:Trust Vote Debate in Parliament - Ignorance of MPs exposed.
by subbu on Jul 21, 2008 10:01 PM Permalink
Donot parrot man!How can we solve our problem if we are to depend on foreign countries for Uranium the main fuel.These western crooks may either stop the supply abruptly under some pretext or increase its price manifold-then what will you do?They are no better than greedy arabs who are selling oil produced at a cost of 1.5$ at 130 $ a barrel-May be their lord is like their prophet who was a seasoned thief!
