The lack of genuine issue based political leaders are driving India's grown backwards. We can understand CPM and cPI to behave in this fashion, but why BJP who brought India to world map by supporting Pokhran, is Mr.Vajpayee hearing ?
Make no mistake as most opposition parties are very angry with congress party which is targeting thier parties by buying thier MPs so they will support maya ji at all cost and we will be surprised by the final result. Maywati has mobilised trmendous support now and if election held soon she will have landslide victory. Congress and SP have lost muslim support forever. Muslims decide more than 100 MP seats including 45 from UP alone and dalits and other weaker class more than 250 MP seats. Even upper caste are now supporting Mayawati in big numbers.
If nuclear deal goes through, India's energy needs will be fully met, Nuclear energy is infinite energy though it more costly by 20% to 50% than coal or hydro electricity. More and more industries can be started, lot of employment can be generated for people and there will be overall improvement of life of people. There is possibility that India can become an economic superpower like Japan or USA. Regarding security, when India gradually become an economic superpower, more and more i.e. 10 times more conventional weapons, 10 times more missiles, 10 times more fighter planes and 10 times more nucler weapons can be built. More navy ships and more submarines, more fighter planes can be built or purchased. India had already exploded nuclear weapons. When India gradually becomes a economic superpower, govt. will have more money, hundreds or thousands of missiles with nuclear and conventional warheads can be built. No country will raise a hand against India. Now it is necessary that, India's energy needs are to be met and India had to become an economic superpower. Massive build up of weapons (nuclear and conventional) can be taken gradually in future. China or Pakistan will never dare to attack India, as India is a nuclear power and nuclear missiles can reach Bejing. If nuclear goes through, India likely to become an economic superpower as well as military superpower or mini military superpower in future. There will also be an option to buy gas from Iran in addition to nuclear ene
RE:Benefits of Nuclear Deal
by Suraj Singh on Jul 21, 2008 12:38 AM Permalink
Myth #11: India needs more nuclear power to assure its energy future.
Fact: Nuclear power has been virtually insignificant in India’s energy mix in the past, and will be no more important in the future. India has been generating electricity with nuclear reactors for more than 40 years. Yet, reactors supply only 2% to 3% of its electricity today. India has not built more reactors because they have not turned out to be as safe, or as clean, or – most important – as economical as originally thought. Even if India were to achieve a 50% increase in nuclear power generation (which is unlikely) such a step would only increase India’s overall electricity output by one percent at most, and would only increase India’s overall energy output by a fraction of one percent. That is not a significant increase in the energy available to India and would not decrease India’s demand for oil and gas.
RE:Benefits of Nuclear Deal
by Gireesh on Jul 21, 2008 01:52 AM Permalink
Dear Singh don't get lost in your own world.. India did not build more reactors NOT because we don't have the technology for making reactors. BUT WE DON"T HAVETHE required fuel. If we had got most of our reactors are running currently at half the capacity because of SHORTAGE of fuel. SO if we can get fuel for those reactors, that itself is sufficientto make the current contribution of Nueclear electricity to 5-6 %.. And then if we have a supply of fuel we can add more reactors. Having more reactors will help us to improve our own technical capabilities to purify Uranium and also use THorium which available in our own geagraphical boundaries.
We would be foolish if we plan to depend on the current sources of energy. 53 % of our elecricity comes from coal. This is fast exahasting in an exponential fashion. So we need to identify alternative sources. Nuclear fuel is definitely one of the options and we can't go on having an isolation with the international community.
Also our isolation on the issue of neuclear policy is preventingb us from getting a permenant seat in UN security council.
Opposition of Left parties is based on their idea that they can muster the Muslim votes in Kerala and Bengal. All these leader of left criticise US every now and then..but they go to US for traement, send their kids for education there.. All this gimmick is to make the public a fool. So don't get into their trap.
RE:Benefits of Nuclear Deal
by Gopal on Jul 21, 2008 02:05 AM Permalink
The manipulation behind this deal is to stop our effort to develop Thorium technology. By going with n-deal all our financial resources will be drained. We will not be in a position to give serious thought on Thorium. Remember stock of Uranium in the world is depleting fast, reaching the end-point by 2070. It is not far. The present projected target is 40000MW in the next 20-30 years. It is an unrealistic projection, in my opinion. There may be some thought of PREFABRICATED PLANTS to speed-up the commissioning. A disastrous thinking for the nation. Think of the radiation hazards connected with it. By that time Uranium will reach near its end point. Then what is the need of the deal? The nuclear deal is for getting Uranium. Then question arises-what is it for? The aim of the western powers is to take away our (60% of world deposit) Thorium at their dictated price. Our leaders should be intelligent enough to read these facts. All investments made for building Uranium based plants will be wasted. Should we waste such a huge astronomically large investments? All form a burden of foreign loans.
Also read google “ A betrayal of India's constitutional vision'. Hindu dated 17.7.08
RE:Benefits of Nuclear Deal
by Gireesh on Jul 21, 2008 02:36 AM Permalink
let me quote from the article of u mentioned :
"Amid this opulence of energy resources, why beg for or borrow American stuff that has strings attached and involves unfamiliar technology?"
where is this opulence of energy resources?
bengal and Kerala has been ruled by leftists quiet long : If there is so much resources why they still have power cuts?
60 % of Indian villages are still living without electricity. And in most of the places where there si elctricity the supply is marred by low voltage and power cuts.
Tell me one village in Kerala where there is no voltage problems.
All parties have ruled India. If there was so much abundance of resources why they did not address the issue of shortage of electricity which is so vital for development.
the majority of our population is still only developing. Once they start living like most of these leader (including VRK and karats ) teh demand for electricity will be so huge. Or do these leaders expect taht these poor guys are never going to see electricity and refrigerator?
I have great rerspect for Krshna Iyer. But at least this article a simple diarrhoea of words. I even doubt it has been written in his name by someone else with leftist leaning. the unusual vocabulary is not typical of Krishna Iyer..
anyway..let us bother about providing electricity to masses rather than American Policies. Left always wanted an opponent to fight agains. Now it is Amerca..that is all..
RE:Benefits of Nuclear Deal
by Gopal on Jul 21, 2008 03:42 AM Permalink
The manipulation behind this deal is to stop our effort to develop Thorium technology. By going with n-deal all our financial resources will be drained. We will not be in a position to give serious thought on Thorium. Remember stock of Uranium in the world is depleting fast, reaching the end-point by 2070. It is not far. The present projected target is 40000MW in the next 20-30 years. It is an unrealistic projection, in my opinion. There may be some thought of PREFABRICATED PLANTS to speed-up the commissioning. A disastrous thinking for the nation. Think of the radiation hazards connected with it. By that time Uranium will reach near its end point. Then what is the need of the deal? The nuclear deal is for getting Uranium. Then question arises-what is it for? The aim of the western powers is to take away our (60% of world deposit) Thorium at their dictated price. Our leaders should be intelligent enough to read these facts. All investments made for building Uranium based plants will be wasted. Should we waste such a huge astronomically large investments? All form a burden of foreign loans.
RE:Benefits of Nuclear Deal
by Gopal on Jul 21, 2008 05:49 AM Permalink
Read the article in the Hindu dated 21.7.08 Google... "Signing 123 Agreement amounts to accepting American hegemony opinion"
Amid all the Sonia, Advani, Karat, Amar singh, Mayavati TAMASHA..there is one Man who is keeping quite, There is one man who is politely observing the developments. There is one man who is being denied a Visa by USA ..the same USA who is ready to buy the country with the nuclear deal.
There is one man who is not respected by Muslims but he has placed his hand on his heart and said that he respects all religions.
There is one man who is NOT corrupt.
There is one man who works 24 * 7 for the development of its people
There is one man who is NO 1 enemy of corrupt intellectuals and journalists who even sell thier mothers for sex.
There is one man whose integrity cannot be questioned.
HE IS THE ONE AND ONLY NARENDRA DAMODARBHAI MODI.
NARENDRA BHAI the nation is crying for your leadership.
Please save this nation.
I request all the readers to look apart from thier religion and support this person.
RE:modi
by TIGER MAN on Jul 20, 2008 11:57 PM Permalink
TheOneAndOnly ...HOW ABOUT CONGRESS THAT BUTCHERED 1000s OF INNOCENT SIKHS IN THE 1984 ANTI SIKH RIOTS .. ANYWAY THE DAYS OF CONGRESS ARE NUMBERED.....ITS BEST FOR THEM TO LOSE THIS NO CONFIDENCE MOTION...OTHERWIFE AFTER 1YEAR THEY WILL HAVE THE GENERAL ELECTIONS...AND ALL THE SMALL PARTIES AND INDEPENDENTS WILL HAVE BITTEN CONGRESS LIKE A PACK OF DOGS FOR MINISTREIAL POSITIONS AND LARGE SUMS OF MONEY...WHAT WHEN THE ELECTIONS ARE HELD ..CONGRESS WILL BE IN SICH A STATE THAT TRHEY MIGHT MANAGE TO CRAWL TO ONLY 50 SEATS....
RE:modi
by samit sekhar on Jul 21, 2008 01:46 AM Permalink
well said my friend,you are absolutely spot on with ur observation,if AT ALL AND I PRAY,IF NARENRABHAI COMES EO POWER IN THE CENTRE,REST ASSURED INDIA'S FUTURE WILL BE IN SAFE HANDS,HE IS ONE PERSON WHO IS ABOVE THESE PETTY POLITICS,HE IS A TRUE STATESMAN!
Mayawati and her chamchas are day dreaming. I don't see how she can become the PM unless BJP supports her. I don't think BJP is that stupid. UNPA does not even have 100 seats. KCR of TRS is lobbying for her and guess what, his party has only 2 Loksabha seats.
I think if UPA falls, then it is elections. Otherwise, 8 or 9 more months for Manmohan Singh.
When Vajpayee finished the full term in 2004, and then Manmohan almost finished his term, I started believing that now finally Indian politics has stabilized and after 5 decades of independence, we have learned what proportion of ideology is good for our parliament. But then all of a sudden, left-wing did what they are best at: don't let anything succeed.
Though, I hate Congress as much as the next person, I hate the lefties even more. I hate psuedo-socialisting parties such as BSP, SP and JD even more as they only know how to play minority politics. Agree, BJP has mostly played the religion politics, but at least they are not commies, and at least they do not belive in divide-and-rule. I just hope BJP comes to power in this election, first see that we have a stable govt., and then worry about the Nuke Deals and other international treaties.
RE:It's fun
by Calspadeaspade on Jul 21, 2008 06:09 AM Permalink
Well said sameer. BJP should go back to what they were before Advani. It was that Sindhi fellow who ruined it. I like the HIndu assertiveness. But Advani went too far and polarized the nation.
ITS BETTER FOR CONGRESS TO LOSE THE NO CONFIDENCE MOTION THIS TIME OVER THIS ONE SIDED DEAL WITH USA .OTHERWISE ,IF CONGRESS DOES MANAGE TO SCRAP THROUGH ..THEY WILL GO THROUGH HELL FOR 1 MORE YEAR BEFORE THE GENERAL ELECTIONS...BECAUSE THE SMALL PARTIES AND INDEPENDENTS THAT SUPPORT THEM WILL CREATE HELL FOR CONGRESS FOR MINISTERY POSITIONS OR LARGE SUMS OF MONEY... THEY ALL WILL PLUCK CONGRESS LIKE A PACK OF DOGS AND IN THE END CONGRESS WILL BE IN SUCH A STATE THAT THEY MIGHT MANAGE TO LIMP TO ONLY 50 SEATS WHEN THEY GENERAL ELECTIONS IN A YEARS TIME...
Hats Off to Rediff.com,this is Frist time Iam looking for update in every 6 minutes ,wether UPA wins or not the real winner is Rediff.com for giving real picture on Nuclear deal.
When the Prime Minister of India commits himself to something publicly, the nation expects him to abide by it. Let us therefore see how Dr Manmohan Singh has fared on the principle of ‘prime ministerial accountability’.
Speaking about the Indo-US nuclear deal in the Lok Sabha on July 29, 2005, the PM had said: “We shall undertake the same responsibilities and obligations as the United States. We expect the same rights and benefits as the US...India will never accept discrimination.” This assurance stands flouted in the draft safeguards agreement between India and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The draft does not recognise India as a Nuclear Weapons State on par with, and having the same rights and obligations as, the USA, Russia, Britain, France and China. In other words, India, with its strategic autonomy compromised, would have an inferior status in the global nuclear order in perpetuity.
RE:please read this
by indianpatriot on Jul 20, 2008 10:34 PM Permalink
Here is another broken assurance. On July 20, 2005, two days after he and American President George Bush issued a joint statement on the nuclear deal, Dr Singh addressed a press conference in Washington. “Mr Prime Minister,” a reporter asked, “will you seek a parliamentary consensus or approval to the new direction you seem to be taking in foreign policy?” The PM replied, as a prime minister should. “Well, the Parliament in our country is sovereign,” he said. “It goes without saying that we can move forward only on the basis of a broad national consensus.”
RE:RE:please read this
by indianpatriot on Jul 20, 2008 10:34 PM Permalink
Today, can any sane person claim that there is “a broad national consensus” in the country justifying the PM’s decision to go ahead with the deal? The resistance from his erstwhile Left allies and the BJP began as soon as the joint statement was issued. How a manipulative PM betrayed the Left, forcing it to withdraw support to the UPA Government on July 8, is well known. Equally well known is how he violated the public commitment given by his own Foreign Minister, Pranab Mukherjee, that the Government would go to the IAEA only after securing the vote of confidence in Parliament. But the nation must be alerted against a new conspiracy afoot to commit another betrayal. The Telegraph of Kolkata carried a front-page report on July 15, titled, Sink or survive, deal done. Quoting highly placed official sources, it said: “The nuclear deal is ‘done’, whether the UPA survives the trust vote or not. The deal will happen because the Government is clear that it is in the supreme national interest. If the Government has to go in the process, let it go.” An official source put it even more arrogantly: “As far as India is concerned, the deal has fled our shores. And India does not have an extradition treaty with Austria (its capital Vienna is the headquarters of the IAEA) to bring it back.”
RE:RE:RE:please read this
by indianpatriot on Jul 20, 2008 10:35 PM Permalink
The very next day, Rahul Gandhi tacitly endorsed this report, which has not been contradicted by the Government yet. “The nuclear deal is more important than the Government. If the Government falls while acting in the national interest, so be it.” In other words, as far as the PM and the Congress leadership are concerned, the deal is now a fait accompli. The trust vote is irrelevant vis-à-vis the fate of the deal. Consider the enormity of the fraud being committed on the people and Parliament of India. In July 2005, the PM had said, “Parliament in our country is sovereign.” In July 2008, he is in effect saying, “The verdict of Parliament does not matter. I am accountable to President Bush, not to the Indian Parliament.”
RE:please read this
by indianpatriot on Jul 20, 2008 10:35 PM Permalink
How Dr Singh has viewed a deal between two sovereign nations through the prism of his personal relationship with George Bush — a relationship in which he sees himself as a junior partner — is evident from the dialogue between the two in Japan, on the sidelines of the G-8 summit earlier this month. After Bush congratulated him “on your leadership at home”, he said, “I’m very happy to report to the President that our relations have moved forward handsomely since our first meeting in July 2005.” Notice the words “I’m very happy to report to the President...” Is the Prime Minister of any self-respecting democratic nation expected to “report” the President of America? Would Dr Singh care to report to India’s Parliament, when it meets tomorrow and day after for a special session to determine the fate of his government, what assurance he gave to Bush in Japan?
RE:RE:please read this
by indianpatriot on Jul 20, 2008 10:36 PM Permalink
We do not know what is going to happen in the Lok Sabha on July 22. However, one thing is widely known. Dr Singh’s government, unsure of its survival, has been desperately trying to stitch together a majority by indulging in the worst kind of horse-trading New Delhi has seen, thereby setting a dangerous precedent in national politics. In his obsession to secure the nuclear deal at any cost, the “incorruptible” PM has blessed dozens of corrupt deals — to ensnare independent MPs and smaller parties, to poach bigger parties, to get criminal MPs out of jail, to pollute parliamentary democracy, in short, to mock the Republic of India.
The apolitical PM, who has never won a Lok Sabha election, may not care, but his party should know that there is a heavy price to be paid for his wrongdoings in the next parliamentary election, whenever they are held.
RE:please read this
by Gopal on Jul 21, 2008 03:48 AM Permalink
Look at the scenario. Every one talk of politics and number game. They forget the basic issue. Here is the winner -the N-deal.
Let every MP be in the know of all the details of N-deal. Starting from the surrendering of India's sovereignty and independence. The hidden and undemocratic and unethical moves by the congress. Deceitful handling of the whole subject. They are answerable to the people during the next election.
All these kala-bulee is for the sake of just 10% max of total energy at a total cost of 3 lakh crores of rupees scheduled to be spent in 20 years crippling the financial system of India. The waste disposal and safety against radiation is the biggest problem -technically and financially. Twenty years from now Uranium will be a rare material!! The congress is in for any kind of 'back-door deal' to gain support from anybody in the parliament.
It is unpardonable to divide society vertically for the sake of a N-deal -'sign-off' of our sovereignty and freedom. All the good works done by congress will be made opaque by this single act. Let the present congress leaders emulate the old generations of congress leaders who lead freedom movement. At the moment I can only pray to God to give them good sense and allow them to think without prejudice and biases.
Why this 'undue haste'?
Let a VIDURA be born in congress to guide them.
Prestige of an individual is nothing when we talk of NATIONAL INTEREST.
