Karat - Rajyasabha Member, Yechury - Rajyasabha Member, Pranab Mukherji - Rajyasabha Member ............. These are the key people deciding over important issues. It is an Irony - these few non elected members are sitting over the fate of WE INDIANS !!!
RE:Fate of 100 cr Indians
by G A on Jul 13, 2008 07:04 PM Permalink
What about Mannu - Rajya Sabha member ? Shivraj Patil - Rajya Sabha member ? Amar Singh - RS member
RE:Fate of 100 cr Indians
by Mani on Jul 14, 2008 12:37 AM Permalink
Left parties are always opposing the country progress in each aspect. Every educated Indian agree that India needs Nuclear energy for the progress of our country . The same is addressed by Dr. Kalam many times. Dr. Kalam is the one who is dreaming about India becoming the super power in 2020 . BJP is opposing the nuclear deal . But in fact this process is initiated by BJP . NO one understands why BJP is opposing this . SO every ploitical party is interested in politics and do not worry about country progress.
Though I have no sympathies for the UPA, I hope the BJP acts responsibly in the interest of the nation and not with the idea of bringing down the government. In most people's thinking the BJP is wantonly opposing the nuclear deal. BJP has more to lose by playing this political game than if it abstained or did not vote against the deal or left it to the party members choice.
RE:Numbers game clearly favours nobody
by Nand Gupta on Jul 13, 2008 07:15 PM Permalink
BJP will never spare any opportunity to bring any non-BJP govt down.
RE:Numbers game clearly favours nobody
by umesh poddar on Jul 13, 2008 08:45 PM Permalink
Ah, feel sorry to read ur words. U r not a sympathiser of UPA. U are a nationalist indian who wants BJP to not bring down congress govt. U were neither written any word if N. Deal is good or bad for the country. I ashamed to find hippos in this public forms. If u r a supporter tell it openly & support.
In a blow to the Left, the NDA may actually abstain.
Apparently an internal poll revealed that the party's supporters were quite upset with their opposition to the deal besides dissension within their ranks. Stalwarts like Vajpayee, Jaswant Singh, Narinder Modi and even Arun Jaitley opposes the party's stand, particularly after Brajesh Mishra went public with his support to the deal.
But trigger was provided by Mayawati defecting to the Left. This left the BJP a non-player in UP and without seat contribution from UP, the NDA cannot have a shot at power.
More disconcerting is whether other NDA allies would gravitate towards UNPA.
So the party has asked its leaders not to open its mouth over the deal. This is as a prelude to abstaining or walking out in the trust vote. A defeat of the Left in the trust vote is seen beneficial for 3 reasons:
a. BJP does not want immediate elections b. Once the nuclear deal is put behind, it can consolidate its allies c. It avoids chinks within NDA with parties like Akali Dal, Shiv Sena abstaining or voting with the deal
RE:BJP to abstain?
by ANAND TEERTHA on Jul 13, 2008 06:52 PM Permalink
All Right this time you are wrong. It is the Cong-I and its allies are afraid of elections not the opposition parties!
Cong-I is a clear party by deflecting peoples attention from 12% inflation. After elections these very UPA allies, Commies and Cong-I will join hands to stop BJP to rule India!! Communists withdrew support only after Cong-I getting SP support!! This is a N-deal DRAMA being palyed at the cost of the nation and the tax payers.
RE:RE:BJP to abstain?
by RAVINDRAN MANNYAN on Jul 13, 2008 07:02 PM Permalink
But BJP is already prepared for election after the karnataka test. They declared that they will go forward with this deal but with "little change".They already made their stand clear. They cannot step back ward bcoz it is the right time for them to contest. so BJP abstain means it will be out of plitical discussion in india. There will be sure an early election to L.S.d7k a)amarnath issue is in live. b)economic distress is the best poll issue. c)They dont want Left or Cong taking the benifit of the situation if the deal become real. d)Mishra"s remark is an isolated one.It has nothing to do with BJP politics.
why to create such a fus .. it is already clear that govt is in minority and either horse trading or acceptance of certain conditions only (all illegal) can save the govt. so wht to take that risk !
Dissolve the parliament and let people say what they want .
It is unfortunate that everybody has been reacting about the N-deal thru planted / twisted /tailor made news and TV channels beaming cacophony debates, nobody discusses N-deal's economic feasibility and technical viability and the time duration it takes to supply energy thru imported fuel supplies and this nuclear energy versus fine tuning(reducing) the existing 50% Transmission and Distribution losses, power pilferage and free elecrticity election promises, etc.,etc.,. The out going governments in USA and in India do not have rights to conclude the N- deal0 It is similar to the British giving us freedom during "midnight", nobody knows deals of Nehru family members alone ruling india for over 36 years. Let the new government in New delhi go in for the N-deal after taking all the political parties into confidence and after discussing feasibility and viabilities. Nobody should say that we have missed the bus.
RE:No CLEAR deal
by umesh poddar on Jul 13, 2008 09:18 PM Permalink
Thanks, atleast one appropriate writing I have found in this blog. Ur words are the best in this blog & the situation.
RE:No CLEAR deal
by aman on Jul 13, 2008 07:09 PM Permalink
There are so many ways we can do to save energy, to reduce our power consumption, increase and exploit our renewable energy sources (solar, hydro, windmills, bio gas etc.) which we are gifted in abundance. This deal can indeed wait for a stable govt. Mr.Manmohan, I dont know why you are in a hurry to sign up this deal, afraid of losing the next elections?
In order to sign an agreement like the nuclear deal, at least 400 MPs should favour it, it is a deal for the whole country. Instead, here Mannu wants to prove his majority with the help of murderers and dacoits in jail from lalu, mulayam and paswan's party. Can there be a bigger tragedy ? Unelected mannu taking help of unelected amar in a democratic set-up !!!!
RE:What is the motality ?
by joby george on Jul 13, 2008 06:41 PM Permalink
PM decided to resign on that friday when inflation rate becomes 11.35 from 8 .He decide to resign because of this not because of N-deal. He know that he will not get majority on 22nd and he is not ready to become PM if UPA will get majority in Next ellection.N-deal is a drama between the UPA,Left&SP to make alliance in UP &fight each other in Kerala & Bengal.
RE:What is the motality ?
by ANAND TEERTHA on Jul 13, 2008 06:45 PM Permalink
You are correct GA. MMS is a Rajya Sabha member dishingout false residential adress from Assam and a nominated PM. Had he been a popular man he should have contested elections from Mumbai the financial capital of india. After the deal he may retire somewhere in USA / Europe!! Amar singh is a night owl in the indian politics.Cong-I described SP as a party of criminals for more than three years!!
RE:What is the motality ?
by mukesh kumar jaswal on Jul 13, 2008 06:47 PM Permalink
If u want 400 MPs support for nuclear deal u are day dreaming. Every body knows that the deal is good for India but the problem here is congress getting it done. If 400 MPs is made a requirement forget nuclear deal even a single resoultion will not pass.
It seems everybody agrees that the deal has some merits and some drawbacks. Congress and other parties supporting the deal think that the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. Left and BJP think that the deal is not worth the negative impact it might cause..
The people behind the deal from the Indian side might be thinking that shortcomings in the deal is subject to various interpretations and if those things become really harmful for the country, we can take ‘corrective actions’ and whatever action we take, we can defend or justify them. They cannot publicly say the same before the deal is signed for obvious reasons!
I don’t think we should worry too about USA as a country or an American president (Bush) who is going to be out of power soon. Also, I don’t think we should worry too much about American laws-they are all subject to change all the time.
So sign the deal if congress and the main opposition party( BJP ) think that it has some benefits .We can ignore the part that has the potential to affect the country badly.
As for BJP, if they think that they will come back to power, they should let the deal go through because as a political party they will be benefited most in the next 5 years. If there is any negative impact(unlikely),they can always blame congress!!
Let’s try and become more powerful now when USA is at its most vulnerable moment!!
