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NSG OK
by Rama Ganesh on Jul 09, 2008 07:45 PM  Permalink 

It's clear that without the US backing, NSG ok isn't going to be possible. To that extent, Dr.MMS has been right in pursuing the deal vigorously. But I am sure the US will ensure that the major cut in the cake goes to the US in the long run. It is up to the Indian government to make the most of the situation.

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Nuclear Deal
by Rajunov Singh on Jul 09, 2008 07:42 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Let the Communists show thier deal with China, before asking the Indian Govt. to reveal the 123 deal.

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RE:Nuclear Deal
by Ram Sharma on Jul 09, 2008 07:49 PM  Permalink
China has already said that it will support India in the NSG. So where is the question of communists deal with China? Why do we bring China just like that?

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RE:Nuclear Deal
by Venkat Pal on Jul 09, 2008 07:58 PM  Permalink
Mr. Sharma,

Should we all believe what China says? Last time they said they support us, they attacked and occupied part of our country. They do everything in their power to make sure that this deal doesn't go through.

As a supporter of BJP, I am disgusted by my party's take on this deal. Any educated person who can think for himself knows that this deal is good for our country. If anything, this is really bad for America because they were not guaranteed anything.



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RE:Nuclear Deal
by SahadevenKK on Jul 09, 2008 07:55 PM  Permalink
kerala Communists are brain heads of India.

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RE:Nuclear Deal
by Greens on Jul 09, 2008 08:03 PM  Permalink
Do u think that Left can make any movement in India, except Bangal? I think No.

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RE:Nuclear Deal
by All Right on Jul 09, 2008 08:02 PM  Permalink
kerala Communists are deranged. You should go back to the pragmatism of Comrade Harikishen Surjeet and Jyothi Basu

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N-Deal - In Rabit & Turtle Race in the end Turtle Won.
by Loga on Jul 09, 2008 07:41 PM  Permalink 

N-Deal - In Rabit & Turtle Race in the end Turtle Won.
Turtle: Dr.Manmohan Singh
Rabit: Left,BJP

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We won
by SahadevenKK on Jul 09, 2008 07:37 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The Marxists won the Game.

BJP and Cong JP/ SP fails

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RE:We won
by All Right on Jul 09, 2008 07:39 PM  Permalink
Yes you commies are in a state of denial. The reality will sink in in two years, after you lose power in both West Bengal and Kerala and more immediately when Left wil be reduced from 60 MPs to below 20

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RE:We won
by Philo on Jul 09, 2008 07:40 PM  Permalink
And you congis will realise in the next one year. If not for Andhra/Tamilnadu you guys have no presence. GO and check the numbers.

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RE:We won
by Aby Koshy on Jul 09, 2008 08:33 PM  Permalink
Tamil Nadu?????

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RE:We won
by Aby Koshy on Jul 09, 2008 08:33 PM  Permalink
Tamil Nadu?????

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Nuclear Energy
by RAVINDRA JOSHI on Jul 09, 2008 07:37 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

From what I read above; if once safe guard agreement is signed, India can purchase nuclear fuel from any country, and then perhaps we can purchase it fron Russia or even from China whose Chamachas are on the top of the Indian politics and perhaps they will not talk of withdrawing support and BLA BLA. Am I correct?

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RE:Nuclear Energy
by Sameer on Jul 09, 2008 07:41 PM  Permalink

get your facts straight. China has no uranium either. It buys it from Australia.

Nuclear Supplies Group has 42 members many od which dont 'SUPPLY' uranium. This group is due to evil design of USA to control India.
And you think USA is a great friend of India.

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RE:Nuclear Energy
by Aby Koshy on Jul 09, 2008 08:35 PM  Permalink
Oh, The US created the NSG only to thwart India, eh?

Boy, such political naivete and incompetence should not be hollered from roof tops. It will do your self esteem no good.

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?
by kaka on Jul 09, 2008 07:34 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

If US is not required why India coudn't approach IAEA and NSG on this matter before US came forth with the proposal in 2005?

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RE:?
by Cracknut on Jul 09, 2008 07:40 PM  Permalink
its only on US request tat the Nsg countries are helpin india on this issue..
tats wher the US comes into play

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RE:?
by rohit thakkar on Jul 09, 2008 07:46 PM  Permalink
its because, USA is the most influential of all NSG members. Without USA support, the NSG is not going to clear us.


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Party
by Real Karnataka on Jul 09, 2008 07:33 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

BJP:Pak
Left :China
SP:Russia
JD:US
Shivsena :Srilanka
BSP:Nepal
Congress:India

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RE:Party
by Real Karnataka on Jul 09, 2008 07:36 PM  Permalink
BJP:Pak
Left :China
SP:Russia
RJD:US
Shivsena :Srilanka
BSP:Nepal
Congress:India


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RE:Party
by SahadevenKK on Jul 09, 2008 07:39 PM  Permalink
are you mad ?

go to Mental hospital.

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RE:RE:Party
by SahadevenKK on Jul 09, 2008 07:40 PM  Permalink
are you mad ?

go to Mental hospital.

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RE:Party
by SahadevenKK on Jul 09, 2008 07:43 PM  Permalink
dont play with Marxists. we are dare devils

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RE:Party
by Sunil Menon on Jul 09, 2008 07:51 PM  Permalink
You are the real stooge of china. Go and sit in china who will garland you, you MARXISTS. People like you have ruined Kerala and Bengal.

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RE:Party
by Philo on Jul 09, 2008 07:41 PM  Permalink
Exactly. You matched the parties exactly with the countries they want to phuck..LOL

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Thats what!
by Sapan Garg on Jul 09, 2008 07:33 PM  Permalink 

You know what! I was thinking all along why deal with US has to be signed to get uranium from Russia. Is USA the gangleader that he has to bless any supply to anyone from anyone? I feel that I have got my answer now. So, I think it would have been better for Congress to tow this line right from the beginning and I am sure noone would have disagreed. Or is it?

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Read Manvendra Singh article on Rediff- US does not get the big picture
by Sameer on Jul 09, 2008 07:31 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

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He is right in saying that this is a political deal under the smokescreen of providing energy to India. There will not be even ONE MEGAWATT added due to this deal.

NDA and US realized that there was a pressing need for India and US to co-operate with each other on several issues.
The problem is that US policy makers are still stuck on NPT mode and wanted India to 'cap, roll back, eliminate' nukes. MMS and Sonia have been more than willing to give. The deal was not signed during NDA because it did not relent on restrictions placed on India's indigenous program.

US is hoping ( rather naively) that Indian population will not notice how MMS and Sonia are selling India's long term interests.

Damage is done. I am afraid that USA's single minded effort to tie India's hands will have a major backlash that would endanger the long term goals of India-US cooperation.

But US policy makers are not known to worry about long term goals-one can see from their support to Pakistan, Taliban, invasion of Iraq--they simply don't get the big picture.

If this deal is signed and MMS and Sonia are seen as a US puppet- every thing that goes wrong with India would be blamed on USA.
BJP so far has been rather sympathetic but guess what, come election season they would join leftists in whipping USA for everything that is wrong in India.

Is India's nuclear program a danger to US?--no, it is their ego problem. USA will once again save its ego that American interests.



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RE:Read Manvendra Singh article on Rediff- US does not get the big picture
by deepak on Jul 09, 2008 07:37 PM  Permalink
BS...India gains hugely from this deal...India gets legitimacy, joins an exclusive club and improves its standing with the big guys. India's future lie not with tinpot dictators of MEast but with US & the west. India belongs to Harvard & Princeton, not Teheran & Qom.

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RE:Read Manvendra Singh article on Rediff- US does not get the big picture
by Sameer on Jul 09, 2008 08:12 PM  Permalink
You are pipe dreaming. USA would never support India..never. this deal would make India another Pakistan

India already has legitimacy. NPT, NSG all are flawed.


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RE:Read Manvendra Singh article on Rediff- US does not get the big picture
by RAVINDRA JOSHI on Jul 09, 2008 07:51 PM  Permalink
There is a wrong notion among our so called petriot Indians that by acquiring nuclear arms we will get security. However question comes in my mind and in many other common people whether nuclear arms will provide us real security, because if our enemy, say, P...fired missile at us on any Sunday,we will surely be eliminated on the same day but in the next movement nuclear world war will be errupted and no one will survive on Monday.

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RE:Read Manvendra Singh article on Rediff- US does not get the big picture
by Mohamed Fameen on Jul 09, 2008 08:12 PM  Permalink
I presume we are talking about nuclear option for generation of power supply and not nuclear arms. Anyhow your perception of nuclear war is absolutely correct, we definitely won't be around for this type of discussion on rediff in case of a nuclear war.

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RE:RE:RE:Read Manvendra Singh article on Rediff- US does not get the big picture
by Sameer on Jul 09, 2008 08:13 PM  Permalink
nuclear amrs are psychological weapons. If one has to use it, then the whole purpose is defeated.
India just needs enough to keep the enemy guessing.

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After NSG ok, India doesn't really need the US
by Ganesh VC on Jul 09, 2008 07:24 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

"Dont rush for the rope hearing that the bull has delivered " ... the old saying

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RE:After NSG ok, India doesn't really need the US
by Kabeer on Jul 09, 2008 07:36 PM  Permalink
Dear Ganesh!

Which language in is this saying?

Never heard before!

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RE:After NSG ok, India doesn't really need the US
by Ganesh VC on Jul 09, 2008 07:51 PM  Permalink
Malayalam

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RE:After NSG ok, India doesn't really need the US
by All Right on Jul 09, 2008 07:30 PM  Permalink
These days even bulls deliver. Didn't you read about a man in the US is pregnant?

More seriously, it is just a mindset. If your basically against the agreement than the old adage becomes operative - you take the bull to the trough but not make it drink. So no amount of convincing will work as your mind is not conditioned to accept reality




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