I think time have come & must throw the minority govt of UPA. Because all policy decision of the this govt is against the democracy and for personal party benefit purposes. BJP should put no confidence motion if left widraw their support.
it will be better if BJP raises no confidence motion so that communists can vote along with them in alliance to prove that communists are also communal.Even if it is vice versa, communists will still prove them to be communal.
IT Is rediculous to oppose nuclear deal which provides for futue enegy security for the nation. By opposing liberalisation in the past, communists denied the growth/ job opertunities for our people.we see the difference now only because we opted for liberalisation. The nuclear power is most essential for us as we can not cope up with energy crisis any more. we need more industries and for that we need more power.Nuclear Power per unit works around RS 1.50 and hence it is economical too. china and pakistan are opposing our nuclear deal.communists always join our enmies as their patriotic credential are questionable . It is proved in 1962 chaina war.They go on opposing liberalisation and nuclear deal because it hits chinese business directly as india will raise as economic power. Communists want india to be perpetually poor so that china will gobble up indian prosperity. We do not want iran pipe line as it passes through pakistan which they will blow in case of war/through terrorist activity. We have to build up good friendship and alliances to beat both pak and china in case of war.We should become strong by having nuclear cover either on our own or through association
IT REDICULIOUS TO OPPOSE nuclear deal.GO head with deal prime m
RE:confidence vote
by All Right on Jul 05, 2008 07:54 PM Permalink
BJP objects to the deal on the specious argument that it does not permit us to test our nuclear weapons.
The operating word is in the event of nuclear testing. Even here the agreement provides an exception - the right to test if China or Pakistan tests.
No one in the nuclear community believes any more for the need to physically test. They now test through computer simulation using past test data.
This is the reason why Vajpayee government shrewdly went for a series of explosions (5 to be precise) - to generate such a data base.
Having done that Vajpayee gave an assurance to the world through his address to the General Assembly of the UN that India no longer needs to explode any nuclear devise.
So if we are take BJP's present position seriously, was Vajpayee and BJP then in 2000 lying to the world community?
RE:RE:confidence vote
by Hate Who divides on Jul 05, 2008 08:00 PM Permalink
Brother doont come up with Compuer simulation ....................as if we test potentiometer it brings result far away from the practical one ........you are talking of Explosion are you nut ........ In 1998 test we have weapon of only 43 KT and china has 4-5 MT weapon 100 tmes more than us .................... so we need tests to ensure security against china...... doing test is not to show drama on International stage ..........its to decide condition of explosion or to findout error
RE:confidence vote
by Hate Who divides on Jul 05, 2008 07:55 PM Permalink
brother from where you got the fig Rs 1.5 /unit ..............you are an perfect example of Ignorance ......... dont know but want to write comment ............... Go and check it brothuer its 6.85 rs per unit though discounted it will touch 10 after the deal.......... dont write any crap over here that will mislead people
RE:confidence vote
by Mohammed basheer on Jul 05, 2008 08:10 PM Permalink
Deal doesnt mandate us to buy uranium. It can be bought only if we can produce electricity at a good rate. Anyway we have capacity in out nuclear power plants rotting without uranium, its better to sign the deal and get the door opened rather than thinking about cost and shutting the door itself. Price of uranium and oil can go up or down and one will be better than the other at any time. Even if its Rs100 per unit with Nuclear energy, they should still sign the deal just keep an option open as a hedge against oil drying up in another 50years. India needs to live even after you an me dies. Not signing nuclear deal is thinking about proce is like not taking insurance saying I can drive safely.
RE:confidence vote
by All Right on Jul 05, 2008 08:06 PM Permalink
Hate Who divides maybe right. However:
Costs is relative. Nuclear plants were thought expensive when oil fluctuated in the band USD 20-30 per barrel. Now with oil fluctuating in the band USD 140-150 and expected to reach USD 200, this is no longer the case.
More and more countries are rethinking on the nuclear option, including UK and US. In the US John McCain promised voters 100 new nuclear plants. Though this maybe much of rhetoric, it also suggests that viability of nuclear power is being seen under new lens.
Secondly, the deal permits technological transfer.So we able to increase the efficiency of our nuclear power generation, which should able us to cut costs
RE:confidence vote
by Sameer on Jul 05, 2008 08:10 PM Permalink
McCain is blowing gas for his far right crowd. the reality is nuclear power is not viable. here is a quaote from recently ublished report -- "That’s all false. In fact, nuclear power is continuing its decades-long collapse in the global marketplace because it’s grossly uncompetitive, unneeded, and obsolete—so hopelessly uneconomic that one needn’t debate whether it’s clean and safe; it weakens electric reliability and national security"
Need I say more?
Please present your link and citations to prove your assertions.
RE:RE:RE:confidence vote
by Hate Who divides on Jul 05, 2008 08:34 PM Permalink
why did they closed 1200MWt Superpheinx,largest FBR in the world in 1997
RE:RE:RE:RE:confidence vote
by Hate Who divides on Jul 05, 2008 08:35 PM Permalink
why did they closed 1200MWt Superpheinx,largest FBR in the world in 1997
Even if MMS and Italian chief of Indian kangress party signs on dotted lines as Bush demands, the first nuclear plant cannot be commissioned till 2018.
There are just couple of suppliers of critical parts and uranium prices are rising even faster than oil. Uranium mining is dangerous and that is why USA which has 3% of world uranium, closed its mines in 70s as it is very expensive to mine uranium.
So lets see.
India does have uranium
India can not produce parts of the plants
Uranium supply is tightly controlled
Nuclear waste is a nightmare--where would India dispose it ( I say bury it under Sharky's home)
First nuclear pant will not see the light till next 10 years
The deal would allow foreign spies in India's thorium based plants
Now can anyone tell me how does nuclear deal make any sense for India?
RE:Dependence on nuclear energy will reduce India to a beggar state
by Sameer on Jul 05, 2008 07:54 PM Permalink
correction, statement should read --India DOES NOT have uranium
RE:Dependence on nuclear energy will reduce India to a beggar state
by All Right on Jul 05, 2008 07:56 PM Permalink
The nuclear deal is geared to serve our short term needs. We have already invested large amount in reactors using uranium, which because of lack of uranium and spare parts, are running 50% of capacity.
Our medium-long term strategy focus on fast breeders which use thorium which are outside the deal. These will come on-stream in 10-15 years.
Till then we need to increase capacity utilization rates of our old generation reactors, which we have placed under safeguards.
This is the best deal we can get. We keep our militray and fast breeders and all future reactors out of the deal.
RE:RE:Dependence on nuclear energy will reduce India to a beggar state
by Sameer on Jul 05, 2008 08:01 PM Permalink
Don't mislead. Nuclear energy is already a drag, why fall into further trap.
Don't desire something which you don't have control over.
How do you know this is the best deal India can get?
RE:Dependence on nuclear energy will reduce India to a beggar state
by Sameer on Jul 05, 2008 08:03 PM Permalink
thorium based plants would be brought under IAEA inspections as per some reports
RE:Dependence on nuclear energy will reduce India to a beggar state
by Hate Who divides on Jul 05, 2008 08:04 PM Permalink
are you sure of last statement........ as I neer read such information anywhere .......or this is another tactic of misleading people
RE:RE:Dependence on nuclear energy will reduce India to a beggar state
by Hate Who divides on Jul 05, 2008 08:04 PM Permalink
are you sure of last statement........ as I neer read such information anywhere .......or this is another tactic of misleading people
RE:Dependence on nuclear energy will reduce India to a beggar state
by Hate Who divides on Jul 05, 2008 08:06 PM Permalink
All right are you sure of last statement........ as I neer read such information anywhere .......or this is another tactic of misleading people
RE:L K Advani is a bigger threat than George W Bush.
by Umesh P Singh on Jul 05, 2008 08:23 PM Permalink
If u r knowing that Bush is also dangerous even though u r going to the Bush then to whom u r making fool. More over u r going for interest of nation then can u give full power to CBI to pursue the cases which r against bastered Amar Singh and co.
RE:L K Advani is a bigger threat than George W Bush.
by Hate Who divides on Jul 05, 2008 07:48 PM Permalink
atleast he recognised that Bush is also threat to India .............thet means he knows the truth ......he is just supporting govt for his own greed or benefit
RE:L K Advani is a bigger threat than George W Bush.
by damodaran mohan on Jul 05, 2008 07:47 PM Permalink
No, he is certainly worried about the slip between the cup and the lip.
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by venkatesh iyer on Jul 05, 2008 07:40 PM Permalink
you cant say against islam and survive in middle east. as hindus in india are very tolarate people idiots like you are still survining. it is high time we should get rid of people like you. enough is enough. dont preach us.
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by Indian on Jul 05, 2008 08:24 PM Permalink
Iyer....tambi jasti dimag mat laga.....dhoti fategi to bhagte chutega....chal 2 cup chai leke aa jaldi....aur glass dhule hone chaiye
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by Tushar Sharma on Jul 05, 2008 07:42 PM Permalink
Just say these words against ISLAM in Saudi and see what is the biggest threat and who is the biggest threat
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by alok shrivastava on Jul 05, 2008 10:06 PM Permalink
Hinduism is the oldest relegion and will remains oldest always. Other like islam,crtistial will come and go many time.
This usless stupid talking about Communalism...a state where maximum crimes account....most of the peoples are below poverty line....everyday N numbers of murders rapes and unexpected and unknown crimes....His boss busy buying Mullas vote..what the f*c*c*k this guy talking about? go to he11
The SP has clinched a deal with Congress not only to save the Govt but also to fight the communal forces. Amar Singh, SP General Secretary, categorically asserted that communalism is the biggest threat than imperialism. He als said, ""L K Advani is a bigger threat than George W Bush." He also regretted," "Communalism is a bigger threat than imperialism. If our friends from the Left want to defeat the government with the Bahujan Samaj Party and the BJP, we don't want to say anything. But we can't do this work." He has rightly summed up the true face of Advani's BJP. Now that they have dried up with no issues to whip up the Congress, it is trying to play a game or two in Kashmir, which is regrettable.The need of the hour is to unite people of all hues to face the present crisis of inflation and price rise, which are more dangerous than the issue of land transfer in Kashmir.Let all the leaders of the political parties join together to fight the biggest economic threat posing out the spiralling crude oil prices in the international market and its effect on Indian economy.If this is not arrested then the life of the common man would be in jeopardy unable to cope up with the rising prices of daily use.This single economic agenda should unite all instead of cashing in on it.If everyone is interested in the welfare of the country and its people as they claim be, they should fight this out and find a solution.As for settling scores,do it in the next elections.Sanity calls for it.
RE:''L K Advani is a bigger threat than George W Bush].'' says Amar Singh
by Hate Who divides on Jul 05, 2008 07:45 PM Permalink
atleast he recognised that Bush is also threat to India .............thet means he knows the truth ......he is just supporting govt for his own greed or benefit
RE:''L K Advani is a bigger threat than George W Bush].'' says Amar Singh
by All Right on Jul 05, 2008 07:59 PM Permalink
The difference between Bush and Advani, come January Bush is out of office from office for good and ceases to be a permanent threat. Whereas Advani though poised to lose the next election, would continue to be a threat as he will make himself a candidate even at 90 years
RE:''L K Advani is a bigger threat than George W Bush].'' says Amar Singh
by alok shrivastava on Jul 05, 2008 10:09 PM Permalink
Congress is the biggest threat to this contry. I pray to god everyday that no body vote to the congress party this time.
Sometime they say deal is against Muslimms ........sometime they support it ........Now amar singh says we willl support it ............ it was really a shock he was monitoring Bollywood's marriage how much they spend , eat and all crap suddenly jumps to N-Deal is another publicity stand for coming elction .................. People like him never goes through details and come here for support ........ he asked kalaam dont he have any sense .......... he cant read Hyde Act text or 123 agreement ....................... Idiots are arguing and want to keep main stream issue of Inflation , what happened to loan waiver of 72000 crore, Many Bomb blast in last 4 years , Y there is no strict law to fight against terrorism.... on the bay
