The time has come for the victims of Indian (Hindian) imperialism and colonialism to stand up and fight the worst form of oppression in the world. In India it is called the caste system or officially backward people of India. The so called British Empire is a myth. The British took the Indians to places where they could not hold the locals in their loose grip. The non-violent Indian python was the best weapon they used to hold the Sinhalese (Ceylonese) in Ceylon now called Sri Lanka, Fijians in Fiji, Zulus in KwaZulu in South Africa, Kenyans in Kenya, Ugandans in Uganda, Malays in Malaya and the list goes on. The British themselves managed to almost wipe out the locals in British Canada, Australia and New Zealand. In these countries people were not advanced enough to defend themselves and the weather was favorable to the British. But in hot and temperate places the British were weak and could not defend themselves. Now the Indian Rani is enjoying the Raja%u2019s dowry. It is time the world understands the suffering of Ceylonese, Fijians, Zulus, Ugandans, Malays and others. Not to mention poor English people who were recently ridiculed by the Big Brother Shipla Shitty. If the world does not realize this, then all these people and cultures will disappear from the earth. Remember there was no India before the British made it. The subcontinent was like Europe and was the home for separate countries. The great Ashoka or the Mogul emperors could not unite this subcontinent and
RE:Privilleged Tamils and other hindians
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 06, 2008 06:08 PM Permalink
This person is willfully writing misleading hsitory. He or she jooly wel knows that the conflict in Sri Lanka i sbetween the native indegenous Tamils who have lived there for thousands of uear and teh Sinhala, and not between the tamiusl of recent Indian origin mainly brough in by the British around 150 years ago. Hese indentrued mostly Tamil labourers still live a poor miserable life in Tea estates and pose no threat to the Sinhalas . The Sinhalas have got them where they wanat to be permanent cooies in teh teas estaes. Inteh mid 70s and 80s they tried to bring Sinhla workers in to the teas estates but it di dnot work they were tto lazy and were not prepared to do any hard work. but wanted lots of salary. That is the reason that the Britsh brought inthese docile backward low cste Indians either form Tamil nadu or Bihar, as the Sinhlas Malays and the native Fijians were too lazy. If you really look at it the SInhalas want a frre ride on the hard work of the Tamils and the Tamli Muslims. The Malays on the hardwork or the CHinese and Indians and teh Native Finjians on the Indians. In fact over 50% of the so called present Sinhalas are opnly recent migrants form southern Tamil Nadu and Kerala. The Europena colonisation was a catostrophe for the native Tamilsin Sri Lanka. As all three kingdons were ruled by Tamil kings. The Aristocracy all spoke Tamil.The Sinhlas were receding and the Tamils were expanding. However due to the forced conversions
RE:RE:Privilleged Tamils and other hindians
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 06, 2008 06:24 PM Permalink
to Catholism and later to Buddhism during the European colonial period,a very large chunk of the Tamil population in the western and Southern littoral became Sinhlalised. Later soon after independence The entire Tamilpopulation in teh Tamil NOrth West coastal Chilaw and Puttalam( the southern part of the Jaffan kingsom) were frcibly assimilated as Sinhalas by the Srilankan government withthe help of the Southern SInhala Catholic Church. Ironically these recent Tamil turned Sinhala castes are the most rabidly anti Tamil. Most members of teh extremist JVP. JHU parties the current general who wants Prabharan dead as weel asthe Bandarnaike, Jayawardene, the WIckremesinghe and the Mahinda Rajapakse clan all belong to this group.The Tamis basically lost a large part of their land, their people and their independence. The SInhalas gined theor freedom in 1947. BUt to the native Eelam Tamils this was jumping from the frying pan to the fire. Al least the Portuguese, Dutch and the British were only interested in subjugation the Tamils and the Sinhalas and oonverting them. However teh Sinhalas are not only interested in subjgating the Native Tamils but also to annihilate them as people form the face of this earth. The West Pakistanis only tried to subjugate the East Bengalis not to annihilate them. This is more like in Darfur or Rwanda kill ethnnically cleanse displace and forcibly assimilate a people so thjat there will be no trce of them after 2500 years. No nEelam Tamils after
RE:RE:RE:Privilleged Tamils and other hindians
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 06, 2008 06:28 PM Permalink
70 to 100 years of independence . TYhey will be refugees/dsiplaced people living abroad gradually to be assimilated in to eh local populations of these countries. the ones left behind left frightened bewildered cowed and forcibly assimilated within a generation or two. Thier experiment in tcoastal Chilaw and Puttlam worked soon after independence so this is on a larger scale. Thei is what you call genocide of people.
RE:India's neibhours don't like India
by bhimsen on Jan 04, 2008 06:43 PM Permalink
They are jealous of our democracy, freedom and economic development
Dangerous terrorist out LTTE has to be wiped off. Indian interest in priority. These terrorist organistation or Karunandhi is sole reperestnatives of Tamils population in india. If light inclination is shown to LTTE they will imbalance our country. At present Dravidian parties have to prevented from supporting LTTE directly or indirectly. This is important stand has to be taken by Govt of India
RE:LTTE has to be wiped off
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 04, 2008 06:01 PM Permalink
What is your suggestion to the racist and genocidal policies followed by sucessive Sri Lankan governments. You seem to be very silent on this. That the Sri lankan government bombs its own Tamil citizens from the air shells them Kills and dispplces thousand does not soudn dangerous or evil to you. That aroudn 1 million ethnic Eelam Tamil are now displaced and living in the west and a furhter 500000 displaced internaly or living in refugees camps in India or in Sri lanka is not a concern for you . I dont see any SInhla refugees or displaced people if th eLTTE is that dangerous. this proves wh is dangerous , racist and genocidal. Why has Pirabakaran threatened Indian or made threats against India. All succesive Sinhla gvernmets have followed an anti Indian policy and have always gone out of their way to be friendly to Pakistan and China, Even now he has sent his Tamil quislings and poodles whim no Sri Lankan Tamil respcts to warn India be my co partner in my genocidal dance if not I wil use the stick my friends Pakistan and China will be thoer to help me.
RE:LTTE has to be wiped off
by DEV ASHISH on Jan 04, 2008 06:09 PM Permalink
this fight has been started by LTTE and they will face the burnt...why r u excited? just because they r u brothren....they should also try to protest lowfully and not like terrorists. unless they understand the meaning of others life their life will remain in danger.
RE:RE:LTTE has to be wiped off
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 04, 2008 06:28 PM Permalink
Before commenting read the history of Sri Lanka after independene . The cry ofr seperate state was not started by the LTTE. but by the moderate TULF. If you read history there was not country called Sri Lanka it was the British who united the Sinhla and Tamil spoeaking parts of the country in 1833. Prior to that both thes people had ruled themsleves for most of their history. The last independent Tamil kingdomes to fall were not in India but in SriLanka. The Jaffan kingdom which consited of NOrth SriLanka parts of Trincomallee and the Chilaw and PUttalam districts. fel lto teh POrtuguese in the 1600s .The Vanni (the current LTTE stronghold)fell to the British aorund the 1820's when the last Tamil chief Pandara Vannian was defeated. Since independence every succesive Sinhala government has discriminated teh Tamils. thoer first act was in the 1950s soon after independence when around 1 million Tamil of recent Indian origin were made stateless after living there for 200 to 150 years. Then came discrimination in language education employment and then large scale Sinhla colonisation of historic Tamil areas to make them a permanent minority in theor own lands. From the 1950s to 1983 al lthe protestes were non violemnt and peaceful. BUt these were met with laughter scorn and brutal violence was leashed aginst the hapless Tamils by the armed forces. Police and Sinhla thughs. Many agreements were made but were torn up or dishonoured. The LTTe is the child of these racist policies
RE:LTTE has to be wiped off
by DEV ASHISH on Jan 04, 2008 06:48 PM Permalink
good to hear u justifying these things.....even muslims worldover do the same. thanks for the history info.
RE:RE:LTTE has to be wiped off
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 05, 2008 05:24 AM Permalink
What the Taliban or Al Quaida is doing is terrorism. As they are distorting Islam and killing innocent people. not in th ename of Injustice but to impose their own extremist form of Islam upon unwilling Muslims and non Muslims throughout the world. Dont lump all Muslim insurgencies toghether. You are getting confused with all the issues. THis is what HIllary Clointon also stted that we cannot lump al insurgencies as terrorism lots of them mamy be justified, she is far more intelligent and perspective the the Right wing Bush and hi s gang. People hav eevery right to fight injustices against them first thorugh negotiation and non violent means. However if the perperator of this injustice does not want to listen an dcontinues to do opress thinking you are weak then you have to take other means. I remeber many Sinhalese laughing and joking and making fun of the Tamils.Stating their are so weak, timid an dlaw abiding, look at how we treat them hit them discriminate them and yet they do not fight but want negotians. If it was us we would have taken up to arms. If some one comes inot your house and gradually starts to take over each room and treats you like dirt what will you do keep quiet. This was the last stand that the Tamils ahad to take through desperation against a Racist Sinhla givernments which wil not and wil never listen or be annihilated as a people. If do not fight or loose th ebattle we wil be annihilated, if we win we have a chance to survive as a people. We have no
RE:LTTE has to be wiped off
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 05, 2008 05:11 AM Permalink
The Tamils in Sri Lanka have a just cause to fight. They are fighting agains a racist and genocidal governments which are only intent on physically and culturally annihilating them as a people in Sri Lanka. They native Tamils have lived in this land for thousands of years and have the same right if not more than the Sinhalas to Sri Lanka as most of the present day Sinhalas have are only descended from recent South Indian migrants ( Tamils). theu are only asking for thoer language education employment and protection of thoer lands from planned Sinhal encroachment ( individual Sinhlalese like individual Tamils have every right to live anywhere in the country. But not stats sponsored colonisation schmens to make the Tamils a minority in their lands) and protection and respect to their religion Hinduism, this is not much ot ask. they are not coveting Sinhlala land disrespecting Buddhism etc . It is the SInhlas who are doing that. The Tamils hav eevery right to use any means to challenge it even according to UN Charter and that is not terrrism. It may be Terrrism to you India and the USa as thjis does not suit your strategic interest, This was not terrrism to yo u or India when the Bebgali insurgentfought or in Bosnia or in Kosovo, why because it suited your interests. The same with the pedominantly Muslim Palesteneian people they have every right to fignt against the historic injustice perperatd upon them thats is no terrorism or the Kurdish people. They are fighting injustice
RE:RE:LTTE has to be wiped off
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 05, 2008 05:49 AM Permalink
choice succesive Sinhalese Governement has seen to it. Even now what is stopping them from granting the Tamils thoer just rights. That will take the wind off LTTE's sails. As teh Tamils are supporting LTTe because of this. Irrespective of the LTTE the entire world agrees that the Tamil population(both native and recent Indian origin ) in Sri Lanka is discriminated . The SriLankan government is using the LTTE as an excuse not to grant the Tamil rights and if they are defeated only God can save the Eelam Tamils, for they like what happened to the Jews wil ahve to wander throught the world wihtout a place. Unlike the Tamils of recent Indian origin who can retrun to native India. These indegenous Tamils are not form India so except for a few who can settle in India they cannot en masse land in India as they are strangers. Look at the way Sri Lankan Tamil refugees are being treated in India. We can see aht is in store for the EElam Tamils in the so called liberated East Sri Lanka ( seem to be like the way Nazis used for thoer occupied terrritories in Poland etc). Thanks to that quisling Karuna USa Pakistani, Israeli and even Indian arms and intelligence. around 300000 Tamils ahve been made homeless many not allowed to return. they are lands ot be distributed amongst teh new Sinhla settlers from the South . Place names changed from Tamil to Sinhla the remaining Tamil population terrorised and a general specifically sent here to make it a Sinhala majority province. K8Bm5
War the last word which has doomed our sub continent in various fashion. If India has to establish a strong nation state then sooner than later it has take responsibility over its people. Our brethren our crying for help in every way. Let us all make a loud enough noise to protect our people. Whether in India or Sri Lanka, Fiji, Kenya; anywhere.
Mouth-piece of sihala government make noise in India.
What India has to do or not is worry of India and its people. This plain kollis are just mouthing the things whatever they have been told before leaving lanka. Few are threatend, few are paid and rest have no other option to run their political life. The figures in this bunch fit for alteast one of the above cases.
RE:Vadagari-sambar
by LION on Jan 04, 2008 05:10 PM Permalink
Educate first, Before BIG mouthing. Check what a sinhala himself tells the terrible condition of Tamils in the Island and kind of treatment receieved from Sinhala Government.
One of the saddest part of India foriegn policy is that India cannot maintain a single friend in the neighbourhood.This happened because of the bad foriegn policies started from the time oF Nehru.
RE:Great friends
by Chandra Prakash on Jan 04, 2008 05:25 PM Permalink
Sajji Puttar, that shows Indian's potentiality of a super power. Only weak countries needs friends. Strong country needs enemies....
if india not supporting the Srilankan govt. against their fight agatinst LTTE what will happen?
Possible Scenerios
1.Srilanka ask india to give weapons and other materials for fighting agaisnt LTTE. Due to the pressseure from DMK and other dravidian parties india declines to their demand
2. Srilanka approaches Pakistan and China for defence equipments and ofcourse manpower and they give. They starts operations against tamils and especially hindu shrines of Jafna.
3. Attack on hindu shrines.. draw some resentment from the Hindu organisations and they start agistations against the srilankan govt.
4. Due to the pressure from the Hindu groups and BJP and AIADMK india supports LTTE - diplomatically and militarily.
5. Sri lanka becomes a ...sandwich between the shadow war of their neighbours
RE:POSSIBLE SCENERIO IN SRILANKA
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 05, 2008 07:38 AM Permalink
another scenario get India and the International community to get the racist Sri Lankan government to gratnt the Tamils their just rights and pretection of thoer language religion culture and lands/ this is not impossible as Sri Lanka deeply relies on foreign aid to fight this war. Thi sis th ejsut due rights of the Tamils and teh Sinhlas have no right to commit genocide on them. Countries that are suporting the Sri lankan government for thoer selfish reasons are aiding and abetting genocide . The current situation is the sole making of succesive Sinhala goverments and no one else is to be blamed, toehr than the British as they handed the Tamil population to their traditional rivals and enemies the Sinhlas on a plattter wihtout any minority safeguards. they were quick to create an artuficial country for the Indian Muslims, where no such country existed on an artificial concept called religion. See what state current Pakistan is. An undutry ofr Islamic fundamentalism. Al lother coutries were mainly created on the basis of common ethnicity language shared heritage and history. In Sri lanka they artificially created a country out of two mutually antagonistic people. This was all done for thoei own ( British ) benefit and so that these countries can fail. This artificially created Pakistan has already broken in to Bangladesh and Pakistan and wil break into larger ethnic compositions if fundamental Islam is not glueing toghether. The same withj SriLanka it was artificially creat
RE:RE:POSSIBLE SCENERIO IN SRILANKA
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Jan 05, 2008 07:43 AM Permalink
created and unless the Tamils are given thoer rights in a federal setup it should break for the betterment of both people ( the SInhalas and Tamils). Now Britain sits there aloofly watches the mess that it created for its own selfish and imperial interests and blames the Tamils.stating they should accept thier annhilation or whatever crumbs the Sinhals throw at them as it is good for the western interestes. However they have a different tuen for the rich White Zimabawean farmers who became fat and rich on plundered Balck land with British help. Mugabe is an idiot but these white settler farmers were another legacy of Britain.
