supreme court was,is and will always remain the only only only hope for common people in the midst of allm napunsak,namard,blood sucking politicians of this country
Thackeray only mentioned the obvious- I agree he has used the wrong language and method to mention the obvious. On that the judge is absolutely right. But we are all missing the point- the problem is not Thackeray's words here. The underlining problem is the mismanagement of UP/Bihar by the political class there. Condemning Thackeray will not solve the underlining issue. The focus should be on why UP/Bihar has been mismanaged and how did theses politicians got away with it. Who is responsible, the politicians there or the people voting in UP/Bihar? This is the question that needs to be answered.
RE:We are missing the point!
by khairnar on Feb 22, 2008 04:48 PM Permalink
Not only Bihar and UP, but entire country. Where are these politians and why people elected those members again and again! It is the fault of our people who are electing their representatives without knowing the result!!!
RE:We are missing the point!
by on Feb 22, 2008 05:34 PM Permalink
Come look into how a society has been suffering in Maharashtra, and especially in the Mumbai-Pune region, due to rise of armed and unarmed lumpen elements as well as the misplaced militancy of the Shiv Sena and the MNS.
You will see a touching interpretation of a big dream that the Shiv Sena had given to the Maha people of Maharashtra, and see honestly -- in their rallies and those of MNS -- the doddering depiction of how far removed it all is from reality.
RE:RE:We are missing the point!
by Roger Binny on Feb 22, 2008 08:21 PM Permalink
On who are you? If you are not a Marathi I don't want your cribbing,crying how bad Marathis are, we Marathis know very well how good all other Indians are? If we are ghaatees and let us be Gahaatees, why do you want to come here in our useless state, and live among useless people? You know what is better for you so why you come to a state where violence,crime, criminality and all other lumpen things happen? Why?
RE:We are missing the point!
by on Feb 23, 2008 03:36 AM Permalink
I am who I am, Roger.
A Maharashtrian by birth who started playing cricket well before your forefathers (Binny) started making uniform cloth in Medrass before the big bad flood.
I crib and cry that the marathi manoos today is not like the Lokmanya Tilak or Gokhale of yore.
It is some cartoon that misguides his people while he sits at home in his fortress drinking beer while his educated son and educated nephew have joined documented corrupticians like Lalu, Mayawati, Mulayum... giving inflammatory speeches to their 'vote-banks' before unleashing violence on the streets, damaging property (both public and private) causing harm to innocent people in addition to their intended targets.
Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs.
Staying with the Laws of the Land is the only choice within our democratic framework.
RE:We are missing the point!
by on Feb 22, 2008 09:52 PM Permalink
Because it is a right to every Indian that he may go and live in any place in India. If you dont want other people in your state then go and create a new country.
RE:We are missing the point!
by pal on Feb 22, 2008 04:06 PM Permalink
your basic idea is wrong, if many blue collar jobs are being done by people from up bihar. Then most white collar office jobs are done by non maharastrian, will you throw out all non marathi GM's in mumbai ?
RE:We are missing the point!
by Roger Binny on Feb 22, 2008 08:16 PM Permalink
Do you have data to provide how many white collar jobs are done by non maharashtrians? I have question,,,you know you claim to the world we have done this, we are good at this,,we are so educated,,,if that is the case why it is that non of multinational,international companies are flocking to your state and creting the jobs? We Marathis don't tell who to come to our state and whom not. Maybe there is something about Marathi which world likes and they do business in this state. And what is wrong if we want to stop people coming to our state and overwhelming our resources? Do you allow everybody in your house who walks on the street? Do you? About the constitution, where does it say that you can allow illegal criminals in your state to do illegal things where?
RE:We are missing the point!
by snpost on Feb 22, 2008 04:36 PM Permalink
I am no saying kick people out of any state in India- Indian can go anywhere they want in India. I am saying solve the undelying issues that causing so many poor people to migrate en mass because of lack of opportunities in their state cause by mismanagement.
RE:ONLY MASSAGE COMING FROM UP & BIHARI MONKY AND THERE SUPPORTER LIKE DONKY
by Raj on Feb 22, 2008 03:45 PM Permalink
par teri maa to boli usne sirf ladki paida kiya.. tu kaha se a gaya be... main usko puch ke batata hu... ruk tu..
RE:ONLY MASSAGE COMING FROM UP & BIHARI MONKY AND THERE SUPPORTER LIKE DONKY
by Chandra Prakash on Feb 22, 2008 04:07 PM Permalink
Mr. Raj and Sameer, both are dirty mullah....
RE:Maharashtra
by Raj on Feb 22, 2008 03:44 PM Permalink
very well said !!! root cause are those dirty politicians only.... they vote according to caste system or hindu ..muslim etc.. our president should do something.. she is from maharshtra..
RE:Maharashtra
by murli nair on Feb 22, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
Sorry I dont agree with you on that one Raj. Dr. Kalam was a far greater president than Pratibha. He could have done something without antagonising anybody.
RE:Maharashtra
by Raj on Feb 22, 2008 03:59 PM Permalink
m not comparing presidents , she is from maharshtra she must be knowing the ground reality or the problems of mumbai... she should must take action against whoever is responsible... politicians of UP/BIHAR or RAJ...
RE:supreme court is right
by on Feb 23, 2008 03:35 AM Permalink
These are the supreme court judges who asked Delhi Municipal corporation to clear the slums near their villas couple of years ago. It's always great to preach but difficult to follow.
RE:supreme court is right
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Feb 22, 2008 07:09 PM Permalink
Supreme Court is always right BUT they didn't say that anyone can go any stay anywhre illegally on sidewalks. Why are you bypassing this fact?
RE:supreme court is right
by on Feb 22, 2008 09:54 PM Permalink
Yes no one can live on sidewalks illegally. If people do that in Maharashtra throw them to jails IN MAHARASHTRA, you can not throw them out of the state where crime was committed. :P
Why can't any non-Kashmiri or non-Himachali settle down and by property in J&K and Himachal Pradesh? Why do other Indian citizens need a permit even to enter north-east states for tourism?
If Jammu and Kashmir is for only Kashmiris, if Himachal Pradesh is only for original Himachalis, if North-Eastern states are only for local residents, why can't Maharashtra be only for Marathis?
RE:Raj Thacheray is right!
by Pravin on Feb 22, 2008 03:03 PM Permalink
Sure it can be but for that people have to become terrorist and start demanding a seperate state and the army should be called in. All the hindus should be either massacred or killed. Army should be called in and should patrol it day and night. All the industries would leave without any jobs left and many more.
RE:Raj Thacheray is right!
by s m on Feb 22, 2008 03:56 PM Permalink
HP and NE states got special status without any terrorists activities ! ! ! Same status has been rewarded to Andaman, Nicobar and Lakshadweep without any such activities !!!
RE:RE:Raj Thacheray is right!
by on Feb 22, 2008 09:57 PM Permalink
Who says NE got special status without any terrorist activities??? More innocent people have died in NE then in J&K till date.
RE:Raj Thacheray is right!
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Feb 22, 2008 07:13 PM Permalink
Pravin Bhaiyya, you areputting cart before the bulls. Special status to JK was given when there was no terrorism whatsoever. But yes, you can argue that giving special status ultimately brought terrorism in that state. But your point is well taken.
Anyways, whatever they say, son of soil may not be constitutional but CONSTITUTION is for the people and people are NOT for the constitution. Constitution can be (and has been) changed to suit the changing circumstances. Why not change in this instance?
RE:RE:Raj Thacheray is right!
by s m on Feb 22, 2008 03:58 PM Permalink
Either make all states like J&K or make J&K like all other states. But do not continue special status for J&K without giving similar status to other states!!!
RE:Raj Thacheray is right!
by on Feb 23, 2008 03:57 AM Permalink
153-A. PROMOTING ENMITY BETWEEN DIFFERENT GROUPS ON GROUNDS OF RELIGION, RACE, PLACE OF BIRTH, RESIDENCE, LANGUAGE, ETC., AND DOING ACTS PREJUDICIAL TO MAINTENANCE OF HARMONY. (1) Whoever -(a) by words, either spoken or written, or by signs or by visible representations or otherwise, promotes or attempts to promote, on grounds of religion, race, place of birth, residence, language, caste or community or any other ground whatsoever, disharmony or feelings of enmity, hatred or ill-will between different religious, racial, language or regional groups or castes or communities, or(b) commits any act which is prejudicial to the maintenance of harmony between different religious, racial, language or regional groups or castes or communities, and which disturbs or is likely to disturb the public tranquillity ........ shall be punished with imprisonment which may extend to five years and shall also be liable to fine.
