If a Maharashtrian visits North India, he should be dealth with in the same way as the North Indians have been dealth with now. Is that Ok? Tommorow it may be time for the South Indian. Mumbai for sure does not belong to Maharashtrians at all. The British built it by themselves as per Indian History -- Thanks to them. Mumbai belong to every Indian and not any local community. The slogan Amchi Mumbai should be banned. The Norht Indians have contributed to the city much more that the locals. The Locals only are voilent, most uneducated and not at all compitent in this city and should leave immediately along with the political parties.
RE:North Indian fruit-vendors attacked in Nashik
by jay b on Feb 13, 2008 05:07 AM Permalink
marathi banduanna vinanthi aahai ki mumbai la raahenya saarkha banva aani baaki indians na traas nako dya.yacha madhe marathi and baaki indians chaach door paryant fayda aahe
RE:North Indian fruit-vendors attacked in Nashik
by san veer on Feb 13, 2008 07:41 AM Permalink
Mr. Jai, shame on you. Being a maharastrina u r making such comment. You should think for future generations of maharashtrians. Are u going to gift them maharashtra where maharashtrinas would be in minority with Bhayyas ruloing it?. These northys will be beaten up in coming days like anything. It is war against northys. This is Jehad against them
It seems this violence is result of locals being unhappy with the migrants. The immediate rationale makes sense (not the violence, but the unhappiness). People from downtroden states come to an megacity, putting stress on local infrastructure and honest hardworking locals have to pay. Right? Well a deeper analysis suggests otherwise. Time for a quick lesson in history folks.
Mumbai was a collection of islands used by local fishehrmen. it had no strategic advantage to anyone, until Britishers (non-locals) found deap harbor thereby creating a port. The port became viable only when suez canal opened up in Egypt (again a non-local event). Before that, southern ports were more important as ships came from Horn of Africa and spices were grown mostly in south. The port of mumbai created lot of business opportunities which were exploited to some extent by locals but mostly by Gujraties and Parsis. Later, various parsi and gujrati businesses headquartered out of Mumbai and produced wealth and jobs for locals. As businesses grew so did opportunities and the immigrants started flooding. The point is locals have taken advantages of outsiders' entreprenuership for 2 centuries, but they do not want the working class of other states enjoy it, why? This is typical xenophobia - US does it so does Europe, and now Mumbaikars too? US brought slaves and Europe colonialized till they became rich. When outsiders started following money, suddenly they became xenophobic. This is hypocracy!
Maharashtra Govt. should take action to control crowd. control traffic and building of slums and new offices by strict rules. All the police, netas are marathi, why are they sleeping. All city in the world including newyork are crowded. But reason they function well because they have strict adminstration, thats why they look beautiful. In mumbai traffic police take Rs 50 and u can do whatever on the road. They r responsible for traffic mess. Our foot path breaks every 6 months, thanks to kaam-chor municpality. Problem is no body can dare to complain against them, because they belong to sena or other marathi union. This is no. 1 reason why mumbai looks like fish market. Bihari and UPs are hardly 5% of mumbai population. If u have strict administration they wont dare to be in-discipline. The marathi union baazi is the bigest problem. Raj wants to make it even worse. His only concern is to get ahead of shiv sena. does not matter if maharashtra becomes another violance state.
RE:Maharashtra govt should have strict rule to control growth of city.
by jay b on Feb 13, 2008 04:45 AM Permalink
if this is done and money is spent in mumbai then what will happen to the development of rest of western maharashtra (where the actual vote bank is).
Bombay was never communal till this stupid party Shiv Sena came and some moron Marathis voted for them. They are a communal party and that entire Thackeray Khandaan should be dumped in cow dung
RE:Bombay
by Sameer Bhagwat on Feb 13, 2008 04:13 AM Permalink
And Marathis themselves send their children to English schools watch Hindi movies.. that moron Raj Thackeray ask him when he last saw a Marathis movie.. and why does Smitha Thackeray produce movies in Hindi and not Marathi?
RE:Bombay
by somil yadav on Feb 13, 2008 04:28 AM Permalink
ya u r right ,,, but these things hurts marathi ,,, my best friend is maratha ,, not all marathis are like RAj ,,, BUT RAJ IS A BIG DISGRACE
RE:Bombay
by jay b on Feb 13, 2008 04:27 AM Permalink
Mumbai has developed and has contributed to development of maharashtra (and to lesser extent of india) and it is not otherwise. it is people from all over India and the regions where the actual industries are located (whose offices are in mumbai) that have lead to ALL the positive that is in Mumbai. It is sad thing that the very people who have worked and suffered hard have been sidelined and are being treated this way. Mumbai belongs to every Indian (because every indian has contributed to its development directly or idirectly ) and nobody (or community) can deny this. No State or city can say that they just want to use other states (or regions) people for development and not give anything in return.
RE:Bombay
by blackgold on Feb 13, 2008 04:14 AM Permalink
why dont u just get out of mumbai(not bombay). it is mumbai the name...bombay is not used anymore..even if u dont like it ..cant help it..go back to ur dirty state which u came from..& take ur parents into the cowdung state.
RE:Bombay
by Sameer Bhagwat on Feb 13, 2008 04:16 AM Permalink
sure you changed the name to Mumbai.. for what?? what did it achieve? India is my country and I am free to go where I want. No Indian state is dirty that shows your Marathi mentality .. that you call an Indian state dirty..
RE:Bombay
by satish on Feb 13, 2008 04:28 AM Permalink
you are free to go anywhere but you don't have any right to blame local people. Such issues get raised bcaz of the mentality of the people like you. You people are like British who enter silently and become the commander.
RE:RE:Bombay
by somil yadav on Feb 13, 2008 04:30 AM Permalink
U R WRONG ,,, if u feel maratha is on decline ,, simple ,,, ask maharastra as a separate country simple
RE:Bombay
by Praveen George on Feb 13, 2008 05:23 AM Permalink
You are telling this to your indian brother and not an invader. Dude cities are centres of trade, Look at san francisco or new york , or paris , london, do you think these folks were born and brought up in london or in silicon valley. They came they changed the face of the city and they stayed. It is the responsible of the respective goverments to maintain law and order and to ensure that the movement of people results in betterment of every one. Blaming few guys who move from other parts for a living is lack of self respect and ignorance of what cities are all about
....If one still assert that people from Bihar and UP are making things happen in Maharashtra, then we don't want such progress. Why can't they go back to their own state and help it progress and let us suffer without them.
3) If UP/Bihar is poor because of leaders like Mulayam/Laloo, then why they still gets votes in Mumbai? In pseudo democracy like ours you don't need majority to call shots. If leaders like Laloo become powerful in Mumbai, then Maharashtra will suffer. 4) And don't tell me Biharis are not biased. For Railway recruitment dates are arranged such that a Bihari can attend interviews at multiple places. Special trains are arranged for them. In railways you will find mostly people from UP/Bihar. Are all of them got it through merit. 5) Maharashtra's culture is getting diluted because influx from outside. Question is not whether outsiders should be allowed or not, but how much should be allowed. Go to Nagpur, you will hardly hear Marathi on road. 6) If rubber is stretched too much it will break. Tomorrow Maharashtra should not go way of Assam, Kashmir, Punjab to preserve its identity. 6) Keeping aside of regional views, why average Mumbaikar should suffer? It is just become impractical to stay in this city because of population explosion. Infrastructure has collapsed.
Jai Hind. Jai Maharashtra. Request every body to say Mumbai instead of Bombay.
RE:Think
by uma chiru on Feb 13, 2008 05:04 AM Permalink
Hey really I dint understand whether mumbai ia part of india or not? As a indians we can move to any part of the india and we can live. We cannot dirt our home if some one is doing and saying why cant I? We are ALL one and JAI HINDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
RE:<b>Think</b>
by Nitin Gupta on Feb 13, 2008 04:12 AM Permalink
If the north indians in MH are not showing any disrespect to native language, i dont see that there is anything wrong in talking in hindi. They dont have the right to preserve there culture? I dont see any issue in u adopting marathi culture but its matter of choice..If someone wants to follow his culture and language then he has every right to do that...
RE:<b>Think</b>
by marathi on Feb 13, 2008 04:32 AM Permalink
what is the definition of country. It is just official right. Basically countries are boundaries of culture. There are common things and their are differenced. Why there are visas and restrictions for going from one country like UAE to other like Saudi who speak same language. Why not so in Maharashtra? Why not Indians swamp UK and USA because we can work longer and for lesser salary? Why there is separate status for Kashmir? Why central govt funds are distributed on basis of population and not on entirely on basis of origin of funds or on good governance or population control achieved by states ? Why leaders like Raj are arrested and why leaders like no hues and cries for Akalis who adore Bhindranwale? Why teaching Hindi is not compulsory only in state of Tamilnadu? Why state govt not removing slums in Mumbai when there is clear law that slums after 1995 are illegal. Why article 370 in Kashmir? On what basis Mulayam/Laloo ask north Indian votes in Mumbai? Why most shop boards are not also in Marathi when there is law which stipulates so....Too many questions...humm...Life is just not black and white..right?
RE:Think
by Sameer Bhagwat on Feb 13, 2008 04:50 AM Permalink
well if that is your argument .. then why other cities which have majority Marathis ( like Kolhapur, Satara ) etc have not progresses? Its true that people move to cities and Mumbai happened to be a city developed by the British and people from all over India came over and made it what it is. You can't ask them to go back now ..
Infact with the progess India is making there are smaller cities which are develoing Bangalore has a lot of Marathis, Cochin is now developed, so is Hyderabad all becasue of cross movement of people.State is just a physical boundary for governing.. India is everyones country..
The examples you are giving are just plain politics and Raj is nothing but a politician trying to gain likeage just like Jayalalitha or any other regional party. For that very reason its better to have a National party ( however bad it maybe) rather than local politicians and local parties that casue communal tension like Shiv Sena..
1) My ancestors came from Dhar in MP to North Maharashtra some 150 years before. We still go to Dhar on occasions like after Marriage or to cut male child's first hairs. Now we consider ourselves as Maharashtrians. My mother tongue is Marathi. Also look at some Maharashtrians like Sindia (Shinde) of Gwalior, Gaekwad (Gaikwad) of Baroda, Maratha kings of of Thanjavur etc. They all mixed with local culture just like me. But that's not the case with many of North Indians. I have never seen a persons from Uttar Pradesh, Bihar speaking in Marathi. Some blame also goes for the Maharashtrians that they are not assertive of their culture. May be it is their assimilative nature. But their good nature is considered as weakness. Thanks to Raj for making us realise the danger. If you go to Chennai, taximan will refuse to take you if you do not talk in Tamil. We have seen PM from Karnatake who could not speak Hindi. But even people in villages in Maharashtra can speak Hindi. 2) Another point is of economics. Economy and culture not always go hand in hand. In fact most of times it goes in opposite. I agree North Indians are ready to work for longer hours and at lesser salary. But that doesn't mean Maharashtrians are lazy. It's not that we don't want to work but we don't want to work for 12 hours a day for salary of 1000 Rs a month. I work in s/w field. We work for longer hours and at lesser salary than US counterparts. That doesn't mean Americans are lazy. If one still assert t
RE:Think
by somil yadav on Feb 13, 2008 04:36 AM Permalink
but will marathi work on 50 to 60 low skilled jobs in mumbai ,,, dont take example of s/w field ,, there are heavy margins ,,, but cn a marathi work a low skill job which usually marathi thinks tht they are against there so called image ,, raj thackrey is a disgrace ,,
How funny, they are accusing UPs and Biharis of goondaism, and beat up some poor fruit vendor to pulp!! Idiots..this is Indian politics 101. To become popular overnight, first create a demon out of some poor migrant, then go beat them up accusing them of stealing the job..nice!!
Let me ask you all something, So Marathis don't go outside their state for work? Remember, what goes around, comes around.
What is the f**king delay in arresting those who are responisble for this? Teach them a lesson so hard, next time they inflame such passion, they should think 1000 times.
I think what ever raj t is today is just because of his father. Ask him to get out of his back side study like a normal person and try to get into any job and try to work hard.Ask him to find a job in any other state if he can survive. I bet he will not last one day, because he does not know what normal man face each day for just one full meal. The howkers did not go to his house to beg, but they work hard each day to help their family back home and for them selves. he is just sitting on his back side and enjoying puppeting the people around him. If i am not mistaken the guy who toped the IAS exams was a son of a rikshw driver from bihar. Hats off for the rikshawala. Raj just live and let others leave. I am a Maharashtrian but first an Hindustani.
RE:Crazy politicians
by Sameer Bhagwat on Feb 13, 2008 04:54 AM Permalink
Who is Rajs father? Are you implying that Bal Thackeray is Rajs dad? Wow then he is ilegitimate..
RE:Crazy politicians
by on Feb 13, 2008 04:00 AM Permalink
I think Raj Thackerey must be educated in a british school. He claims to be a maratha but he is a firangi with a divide and rule policy. He should not call himself an Indian. Anyone who tries to split the country for shameful political gain should be satirically and humorously exposed.. I don't propose violence but education of the poor so that they can understand these manipulations of the psyche.
From many of the messages here we can understand that, slowly Maharashtrians and North Indians have started blaming each other and raising all the issues they can. Its the sign of split and well done Mr. Raj Thackerey u 've started achieving the things u wanted. I am from Tamilnadu already fed-up with so many trivial issues getting blown-up here, and I never imagined this cud happen in Mumbai, that too with Fellow north indians. My heart is aching. Whats happening to our country. If rogues-by-birth people like Thackarey is initiating this, why educated people like us need to fight on this. These kind of leader need to be stoned to death. No point in talking about becoming a superpower nation in the world, when we cant even know the meaning of unity.
