RE:India moving towards USSR like disintegration.
by shovon dasgupta on Feb 12, 2008 08:05 PM Permalink
We will be USI(United States of India).. Constitution will be changed..
RE:India moving towards USSR like disintegration.
by Mukund Pande on Feb 12, 2008 08:15 PM Permalink
Very well said. Irrespctive of all provocations, we are one nation. Our only identity is that of an Indian. Nothing and Nothing can devide India into pieces. We have been a nation since past several centuries. Why otherwise the partion of India in 1947 was resisted with all might and was very painful. Raj Thakre does not have any political base in Maharashtra, so is getting into cheap political stunts. Vande Mataram does not refer to any perticular state but entire nation i.e. India.
RE:Defence Personnel
by subodh joshi on Feb 12, 2008 08:14 PM Permalink
Armed forces do not keep data cast or language wise. Indian Army does have Marathi Light Infentory (A Brigade I think, not sure). There are a sizable Marathi people in the Armed forces. I am myself an Ex-Airforce Officer.
In Armed Forces culture a Marathi person is a person who calls himself from Maharashraian, irrespective of the language he speaks at home. However there are very many Marathi speaking persons in the Armed Forces as well.
As long as Politicians like Raj Thakre play their dirty politics of Regionalism, casticism, linguism etc., the society will remain divided and India can never dream of becoming a developed nation or a super power like China.
Can someone suggest what we can do about this. Some states in India are very corrupt and don't develop. Due to the lack of education in these states, the people have lots of children. They then move to other states and become a burden on the infrastructure. Should states like MH just yield to this burden and be okay with MH going down the tube or should MH put in policies to ensure the survival of the city and culture.
RE:Migration
by Pravendra Sharma on Feb 12, 2008 07:46 PM Permalink
Yes , Regionlism is more dangerous than Religionism. Mumbai situation is worse than Jammu & kashmir. becuase they are educated and doing crime against poor labour only due to dirty politics.jai bhim
RE:Migration
by ShivSena on Feb 12, 2008 07:53 PM Permalink
so you are saying that you would rather live in Kashmir than in Mumbai!!!! HA HA, i am laughing here.
RE:Migration
by S on Feb 12, 2008 07:52 PM Permalink
Looks like Indians need a work visa in MH and all the Mafia, smugglers, drug peddlars and illegal immigrants from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Dubai can live and work without visa....one of the many idiotic expressions, which happens only in India.
RE:Migration
by sudheer on Feb 12, 2008 08:05 PM Permalink
keep on RAJ jald hi maharashtra naya desh banega aur mumbai par pakistani jhanda laharayega jai maharashtra-pakistan jindabad
This purely for political gains. People should not loose their temper and expose this kind of politicians.
The Bhilar and UP persons should also know their limitatations. first of all, instead of try to implement HINDI, they should know how to respect and culture of other people also.
RE:Mharastra viloence
by Mukund Pande on Feb 12, 2008 08:20 PM Permalink
Hindi has lost its purity and is polluted, adulterated with Urdu and English words.
Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job. If Maharashtr is so developed that it can't accept backward Bihari then then why they are also migrating to US, Europe, Saudi,Canada Australia etc. All 30 millions INDIANS NRI's out of which 5 millions are Maharashtras Indians(NRI's) should through back to India by overseas countries. All countries like USA,Europe,Canada,Australia etc are become so crowded and dirty because of these Illiterate and uncivilized Indians. Indians who don't have unity in their own country they don't have any rights to live overseas countries. These Indians send all money earn overseas to their native states in India.
RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by Sanjay Mohan on Feb 12, 2008 07:46 PM Permalink
well said, now its the time for US and UK to throw racist and terrorist Indians
RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by ShivSena on Feb 12, 2008 07:41 PM Permalink
you are a US citizen. Please stop commenting on our politics.
RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by raj on Feb 12, 2008 07:43 PM Permalink
My Race is Indian, No one can take my rights.
RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by ShivSena on Feb 12, 2008 07:50 PM Permalink
since when is Indian a race. Thats a myth. you are a white man's slave.
RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by bahmidipati venkata subbarao on Feb 12, 2008 07:53 PM Permalink
'OUR' politics .. i think its marati politics but u cannot just ask the non-local population to leave .. right to freedom is a fundamental right in india and u cannot ask people to quit maharashtra ..
RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by avinash on Feb 12, 2008 07:48 PM Permalink
Beta USA citizen, the number of persons of indian origin working for MNC's outside their homeland is far more less than those working for MNC's from India in BPO. Tell Your Government to hire more competant and cheap manpower ifever available on the crust of the earth.
RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by Pravendra Sharma on Feb 12, 2008 07:49 PM Permalink
you are marathis not Indian so first You should stop commenting .go outside and leave in jungle like shivaje
RE:RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by Vaibhav Nangare on Feb 13, 2008 11:23 AM Permalink
Boss Chatrapati Shivaji is the pride of India not only Maharshtra. He never lived in jungle. The ignorance of UPites and Biharis as far as local culture is concerned sucks us
RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by on Feb 12, 2008 07:59 PM Permalink
What have RAJ done good for Maharastrians.It is very Symapatic we Hindus fight over each other.I don't say UP or Biharis are good.Every religion or community is good but thinking of people are worst.When we will be weak fighting with each other then foriegn power will make us salves.Why who will fight then.Will RAj sent his son or daughter to fight for the country.It is still the army.Instead of destroying the goods does anybody guts to oppose any corrupt politican,does anybody have guts to bring Dawood or fight against terrorism.Instead of showing guts on poor people show your guts to fight against terrorism.Do something for poor farmers who commit suicide,do something for rapes and child molestation.Those people who fight over these matter are DOGS,who will do any thing for Sharab and Shabab.I really feel pity for these guys.All politicans have so much money but won't do anything for poor and drown trodden.....By Isha Rane
RE:RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by Anand on Feb 12, 2008 07:56 PM Permalink
U claim to be one of the US Citizen, and look at your English as a Language. Its mandatory for US citizen to read, write & speak fluent English. Where have you come from? India right? still u r spitting against the Indians? This fight is against the miscreants who are creating unrest in Maharashtra. If you take a close Look they are not Targeting the Kannadigas,Malyalis, Tamils, Gujratis, Marvadis not even the Delhites or Punjabis... its only people form 2 states Bihar & UP... why? try to analyse it. Most of the crimes in India [I would say more than 50%] have been undertaken by the people from these 2 states.
Why? because of the Illeteracy, unemployment and the Politicians. Had they been instrumental in Developement of these 2 states in the past they wouldn't have any need to migrate. they would have lived in their native happily.
Even as a Maharashtrian, I a against the voilance which has been undertaken, but a fact is if a Maharashtrian wants to celebrate Maharashtra Divas in UP/Bihar they would be thrashed by the RJD/LJP people. But on the contrary they come here and Celebrate UP Divas/Bihar Divas wihtout any resistance. If anybody asks them why are you celebrating their answer is ready," I will do it again and again what will u do? I will bring up my Lathis and beat you till death."
So whoever you are an Indian/a Pakistani/a US citizen make it sure you understand the problem and then open your mouth. If you are a US citizen then first try to solve the raci
RE:RE:RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by Anand on Feb 12, 2008 07:59 PM Permalink
continuing where I've left.
So u better solve the recism in US and then only come to India with ur shity mouth. Asides, when it comes to India there are no maharashtrians/Biharis/Upiets they all are Indians and mind it nobody in this world would be able to STOP we INDIANS if we decide.
So shut up and clean ur ass with a piece of paper.
RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by Shailendra Jha on Feb 12, 2008 08:09 PM Permalink
Dear Anand, One thing you should think..... a person who has left his/her native place for bread and butter will certainly not disturb the local peoplw with whome they resides. Secondly how much time a worker/employee gets apart from his duty hours that they will will disturb you? Dont you think that what ever has happened there is only because of cheap politics may it be from Raj or Abu? No one wants to hurt the local centiments as they have to live in the same society. Thirdly, if Muslims can celebrate Id, Bakarid, Chirtians can celebrate XMas, Good Friday, can a bihari/Up not celebrate Chhat? Have you seen any north indian to disobey Ganapati Puja? Do they not take part with you people when you celebrate Ganapti puja? As far as your concern is for UP/Bihar, for your kind information, yesterday South Indians have been targeted at Pune. Hope you will try to understand my views and judge the decision of your fellow Marathis.
RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by Anand on Feb 12, 2008 08:26 PM Permalink
Absolutely Shailendra. Agreed. If you have gone thorugh my post carefully u would find that I am against it.
I just tried to put the fact. As you would agree that al the Muslims are not bad, but a handful of them have made their community look bad. Personally I would say this community has a Beautiful heritage. Likewise, because of some handful people the normal UP/Bihari who is living peacefully is suffering.
RE:Are Maharashtrans not going overseas countries for finding job.
by Manoj Khanderia on Feb 12, 2008 07:48 PM Permalink
US is built up on migrated population only !!! Per capita income of NRI is more than US citizens. So... Migration contributes to economic growth ....
RE:RE:raj jer tu marathi mard asel ter illegal bangladeshi na hakalun dakhav
by kiran thakur on Feb 12, 2008 07:49 PM Permalink
if we beat them then also u r politician came in between us. and starting politics for getting votes.
RE:raj jer tu marathi mard asel ter illegal bangladeshi na hakalun dakhav
by on Feb 12, 2008 08:57 PM Permalink
Dear Prashant,
I would like to update you that Mumbai is driven by people who have come from different parts of India. Of which UP or Bihar might be constituting a major chunk. But do you know that even IAS IPS who are responsible for running Mumbai are from UP & Bihar.
It's easy to point out finger at others. If the people who are creating nuisance to others really want to solve this. They should come out & work hard, rather doing fault finding. Also they should remember they are Maharashtra Navnirman Sena....not a Todfod Sena
I see most maharashtrian porgas going around with girls hand in hand, in crucial years of their life, better they should concentrate on their career. I don't know what perception you have about people coming from UP or Bihar. I would say they are brave to come out of their comfort zone, so they are succeeding.
RE:raj jer tu marathi mard asel ter illegal bangladeshi na hakalun dakhav
by vinay thakur on Feb 12, 2008 09:41 PM Permalink
1.Biharies & Upites enter into IAS/IPS services by cheating--Poor marathies dont know cheating! 2.Biharis & Upites- take up all lower level jobs in Mumbai & Maharashtra- Marathies cannot compete them because they are sober! 3.Gujjus & Parsies run all big businesses in Maharashtra- Marathies are not business minded! 4.Leaders from North like Mulayam,Lalloo go and collect all votes in Mumbai-- Marathies have no political identity,they simply dont know politics 5.People from South come and take up all middle managment jobs in Mumbai-- Locals are not educated enough or perhaps demand more salaries.
Come on guys just wake up!You cannot blame everything on migrants!
RE:raj jer tu marathi mard asel ter illegal bangladeshi na hakalun dakhav
by Vaibhav Nangare on Feb 13, 2008 11:30 AM Permalink
What are trying to tell Marathi boys not concentrating on careers. Check your records. When we can get jobs in Mumbai why will we go out. See the case of Railways which is filled with Upites and Biharis even in Maharashtra. It is as if the job is reserved for Minister from UP or Bihar. They employ their own people. Give ads only in Hindi Newspaper and then cry that Marathi guys are not serious. Take a look at the Private Sector which is filled with Marathi professionals. Don't you make that statement ever again
RE:raj jer tu marathi mard asel ter illegal bangladeshi na hakalun dakhav
by kiran thakur on Feb 12, 2008 07:46 PM Permalink
first u accept that the politicians of north indian are selfish. up & bihar is not develop by this politicians. u r asking Raj Thakare to be a real mard, then what about north indian politician. they do not want to develop their own state. they do not have pride of their own state , about their there people. shame on them. first accept that this is truth. then ask to them or called them real mard.
RE:RE:raj jer tu marathi mard asel ter illegal bangladeshi na hakalun dakhav
by vinay thakur on Feb 12, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink
All leaders going to Mumbai from North india have been voted out of power by people of UP and Bihar.In fact Bihar is doing better these days than your Maharashtra govt.What Bal Thackrey and Shiv sena have done extra-ordinary for you guys?And lets see If Raj Thackrey makes Mumbai another New York!
RE:raj jer tu marathi mard asel ter illegal bangladeshi na hakalun dakhav
by on Feb 12, 2008 08:22 PM Permalink
A simple message - India is a free country. If we%u2019ll fight with each other then we'll just make things worst.
The established ones must help needed.
This is not about East-West-North-South. It's about our India.
Try to understand the power and meaning of WE and not ME.
There's no meaning to salute the flag and paying homage to our martyrs if you don't understand the reason why they did it. They never did it for Maharashtra or Delhi or Chennai they did for our INDIA.
It%u2019s our responsibility to make our country better and this is not the way to do it.
should think this practically. Marathi (Middle Class & Lower Middle Class ) are really distressed by ongoing & increasing other states sending floods of people to our states specially Mumbai to get jobs at the cost of son of the soils by ruining them & frustrating them in the max way. Let us leave politics aside since in the early 80%u2019s it was the Congress who allowed such movements of loads of people for vote banks but ?? Why Should the Local people of Maharashtra suffer cause of inefficiency of other States. What I want to suggest is by an example : In A Company there are 2 High Level Managers : There are total 200 people under them. Now if One is able to manage properly & the other is not & the other manager tries to manage only 20 of his people & shed responsibility for the rest 80 & sends them to the other. The performing manager would also suffer, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY THE COMPANY WOULD SUFFER.i.eIndia is suffering cause of horrible management of North Indian Goverments specially UP,Bihar & they are trying to shed their responsibilities on other states. Obviously this would lead to communal disharmony in the local people since their jobs are hit the most. We Marathis are proud to stay in India & our Local Maharashtra. We would not like to leave this place which we call MAIBHOOMI. A Practical solution to the same is that North Indian States like UP & Bihar should be given stern warnings&create more job opportunities &manage their states.Every Corner should perfo
RE:Marathi Manoos Views
by pavan kumar on Feb 12, 2008 07:35 PM Permalink
Then US should give a strong warning to Maharashtra to develop like them orelse stop sending out so many guys to work in their country and grab their jobs. If politicians in Maharashtra doesn't listein to this advice then beat all the innocent intelectuals who have gone to US in search of good future.
RE:Marathi Manoos Views
by kshma srivastava on Feb 12, 2008 07:43 PM Permalink
U r correct, that UP and bihar government should create job opportunities in their state. But u can not gurantee that ur marathi people are qualified enough to handle all the jobs. If this would have been the situation, then in any case other state person wouldnt have enterd in maharashtra. This is a fact, north indians created job opportunities for themselves and are surviing here, y didnt marathis do all labourer jobs? y arent marathis are the owners of the coportates in mumbai n other parts of the maharshtra? y arent marathis working late in the nite, like up, biharis do? If rikshaw driver from UP n bihar work late nite n earn, then y cant marathis??? marathis should have themselves be so capable that they could have snatched job from other state people. u dont want to leave maharashtra then dont leave, but u can not guide other state people to enter into maharsthra.......and one more thing, wat about marathis residing in MP n south indian states??? should other state people throw them out the way raj thakrey is doing?? or does marathi people have become to weak n incompetitive that they need support such type of politician???
RE:Marathi Manoos Views
by subramanian sevgan on Feb 12, 2008 07:54 PM Permalink
Its not that Mumbai has been managed well by the Maharastrian government. Mumbai being the financial capital of India attracts lots of business investments and hence people from throughout India come here to seek jobs. If the maharastrians are so particular about their state they should not have allowed the business families from Gujarat (Ambani's), Tata's and likes to settle in Maharastra. they should not have asked the centre to invest in establishments like the Mumbai Port, Bombay stock exchange and so on. Bombay is not just the property of maharastrians but it is a place for every Indian to settle. All these cracks (RAJ and Uddav) who have come up with the Marathi Manus ideology suddenly from dreams, have they ever tried to improve the welfare of people in places like Vidharb, Satara, and other remote underdeveloped places of Maharastra. Its pure vote politics and utleast educated people should not fall prey to their evil designs.
RE:RE:Marathi Manoos Views
by subramanian sevgan on Feb 12, 2008 07:57 PM Permalink
Its not that Mumbai has been managed well by the Maharastrian government. Mumbai being the financial capital of India attracts lots of business investments and hence people from throughout India come here to seek jobs. If the maharastrians are so particular about their state they should not have allowed the business families from Gujarat (Ambani's), Tata's and likes to settle in Maharastra. they should not have asked the centre to invest in establishments like the Mumbai Port, Bombay stock exchange and so on. Bombay is not just the property of maharastrians but it is a place for every Indian to settle. All these cracks (RAJ and Uddav) who have come up with the Marathi Manus ideology suddenly from dreams, have they ever tried to improve the welfare of people in places like Vidharb, Satara, and other remote underdeveloped places of Maharastra. Its pure vote politics and utleast educated people should not fall prey to their evil designs.
RE:RE:Marathi Manoos Views
by Mindless on Feb 12, 2008 07:39 PM Permalink
Wow. One dogs barks and all follow them ehh..How about driving all marathi's out from whereever they might be. Tit for Tat. How abt all Europeans, US, and Ozzy packing back Indians, as it Indians are considered as "Indian Dogs" there, which is akin to what u guys call "bhaiyas" how would u react??????.
Come on there is a limit, how much deep in history will go get?????
RE:Marathi Manoos Views
by deep on Feb 12, 2008 07:37 PM Permalink
What you told is perfect. The main reason lies in the administrative inefficiency and lack of opportunities in the North Indian states. If huge population flows form one state to another sometime is bound to be a burden. Only solution is proper administration and job opportunities in every state so that majority population do not required to leave his land to other place to seek a living. Unfortunately and this not oing to happen to the state like UP and Bihar in near future.
I am a North Indian but born and brought up in Pune. I agree to your view point. There is a pressing need to develop North Indian states radically. More job opportunities need to be created there..Not only that, first and foremost law and order must be brought under control.
However, I would like to say that what Raj is doing is really unfair. This is not at all constructive but only shows his desperation to hog limelight. I remember listening to his first speech after leaving Shiv Sena. I must say I was REALLY impressed because he spoke of radical reforms. But I am sad he resorted to such petty ways to gain mass support. I hope he understands for betterment of 1 and all (not just Maharastrians) that division only reduces strength.
